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Rich Mazur   
18 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

In 1966, fifty two years ago, with a diploma from Polibuda in my bag, I was waving good-bye to my parents as the train I was on started rolling west toward a more civilized world.

This spring I broke my word never to go back, so on Thursday, April 26, I was again in Warsaw. Three days later, I was on my way home to Chicago.

What I learned very quickly about Poland made me leave sooner than I planned and will keep me from coming back forever.

Graffiti: If I want to see ugly buildings defaced by morons for no good reason I don't have to spend ten hours on a plane that would be considered a cruel and unusual punishment in a typical American prison. I have plenty of that near me where the black and Latino gangs congregate. To make matters worse, it seems that the average guy in Warsaw got numb to this form of vandalism. "It's just kids" or "They will do it again if we paint it over". This makes it a Polish mental disorder - tolerating theft by vandalism and being blasé about it.

Restrooms: Defecating and urinating are basic to life. In Poland, those functions are clearly optional and subject to a fee. My question, "What do I do if I don't have money with me?" was met with that stupid, smirkey smile that said "then you are f**ked". One local genius asked: thin or thick?

Emergency medical care: This was the last nail. Two days after arrival, Saturday evening, I wasn't feeling well so I stopped at a clinic. The first thing I hear is that it will be 120 zloty, payable up front. No, we don't take credit cards. What??? No, cash only. At that moment, I had 400 bucks on me so I figured I am good to go. Nope. Polish money only. Where is the nearest bank? I don't know but they are all closed now. So, what do I do? You can try the hospital down the street.

The hospital down the street was worse. The entrance looked like a place where you bring your old car to junk it. To find out how I would be treated in an emergency situation, I asked this: If somebody dropped me off here, bleeding and with 15 minutes left before my imminent death, with no documents or money on me because I left my hotel to go jogging, would I be treated to save my life? We would need cash payment up front. But I do have enough American insurance to cover me for up to 150,000 dollars, toll-free numbers to get a guarantee of payment, and two credit cards good for 20 grand. Sorry, these are our rules. Of course, the moron I was talking to was unable to say how much money would be enough to be admitted. That point was moot anyway because if I had any cash on me, it would be stolen by the "Good Samaritan", right along with my watch and shoes. She seemed happy to just say "no", with no attempt to suggest anything else. Not even a "let me check with Mr. Big".

At this point, the only thing I was able to say while avoiding the f word is that my access to a medical facility in the middle of Africa would be no worse. Sorry, but those are the rules. Got it.

Next day was Sunday. At 10, I was at the Chopin airport buying a return ticket. Good bye, Poland. Never again.

Last summer in June I went to a local post office to renew my American passport. Three weeks and 35 bucks later, it was in my hands. The form I had to fill out was four-page long.

Also in June, for the reasons that are more nostalgic than based on a necessity, I decided to renew my Polish passport. It is May now and I still don't have it. The difference today is that I don't care anymore.

BTW, the form I had to fill out to establish that I am a Polish citizen was 12-page long and covered every member of my family including both sets of my grandparents. My birth certificate, passport, and a very verifiable fact that I never renounced my Polish citizenship was clearly not sufficient for the Polish blockheads to decide that I still am.

Also, the Polish Consulate in Chicago makes a typical American post office look like a lobby of a five-star hotel. As an extra challenge, it is located to make getting there as inconvenient and expensive as humanly possible. And then there are those bullet-proof windows to make the conversations hard and unfriendly, if you can hear the clerk on the other side.
Rich Mazur   
19 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

Ironside:

A. I don't drink. Ever. Yeah, I know, a guy from Poland who does not get drunk is so unsual in your mind. But I am not surprised.

B. How the hell do I go to an ATM if I get hit by a car, I am bleeding, and I need to be in an emergency room within literally minutes? Duh?

C. Local currency people carry is not insurance money. It's burger-and-fries money. Emergency care money is in thousands or a lot more. Do you carry this kind of cash on you every day?

D. That idea of calling a pimply kid at the hotel so that he would "arrange something" is so off-the-chart stupid I will not even attempt to comment.

Dirk diggler

I did have international travel insurance on top of my supplemental Medicare coverage which is also good for international travel. So I was insured twice. And I had two credit cards which I used in Poland everywhere. With all that in place, the moron at the hospital was adamant that EVEN in case of a bloody and life threatening emergency they would not treat me without an up front cash on the table. Even illegal aliens are not turned away from American hospitals under such conditions.
Rich Mazur   
19 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

You missed my main point: I had travel insurance and they still told me they would not treat me until they see Polish money on the table. Period. They refused to even look at my insurance document or, God forbid, call the 24/7 toll-free number to confirm that I am in fact insured and to what extent.

As far as 2zl to take a dump, it's not a matter of expense. It's the principle. Way back, we had this nonsense at the O'Hare airport in Chicago when you needed 10 cents to do it until someone went to a federal court and that was the end of this bs that you need to pay for something so basic to human existance. BTW, does every kid in Poland have cash or credit card to be able to go number 2?

Some places it gets worse: there is no restroom at the Gdanks Oliwa station! None, money or not. Luckily, a nearby private American company called McDonalds came to rescue.
Rich Mazur   
19 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

On the positive side, no other EU country has more beautiful women per square mile than Poland. Only Columbia and Venezuela can compete.

To fess up, the April trip I aborted was my second after emigrating to the US. The first one in September 2017 was also remarkable but in a very positive way. For the first time since escaping commies, I was able to see the places where I lived and the schools I went to. While at Politechnika, I met a student who gave me a tour of the department (Lacznosc) I graduated from. He spoke perfect English so I invited him to have dinner with me. Technically, I am bilingual but after fifty years of not speaking Polish my default and the primary language is English now. BTW, I still hate that third-person, Polish "prosze Pana" and "czy Pan". How about just "you"? Too offensive?

The high point of my first trip to Poland was when, out of the blue, I just walked into a school in Jedlnia-Letnisko and offered to speak to the kids during their English class. To my total shock they said yes and there I was, a perfect stranger, talking about everything that was age appropriate. Needless to say, I was just as unprepared for this event as they were. But it went well enough for them to ask me to do it again for another group. Later, I did the same three times at the elementary school number 34 in Radom, the town I spent my best years as a kid between 4 and 10.

Which again brings me to the subject of restrooms. While in that school in Radom, I had to go. To my horror, I discovered that that there was no toilet paper in the stall. WTF? Maybe it just ran out. No, we don't provide it because the kids will steal it. How about soap and towels? No soap. No towels. Same reason. The second stall didn't have toilet paper either. And the door was missing. Against common sense and the rules of good manners, I decided to be an ugly American for a moment and offered to buy that missing door. Thank you but we have that door somewhere, we just didn't have a chance to install it. I was plannig to visit that school to check if they did but I had to leave.
Rich Mazur   
19 May 2018
USA, Canada / Polish or American Education? [180]

All that talk about which university is better is a waste of time. On the world scale and specifically in the US where does Politechnika Warszawska stand? How does Liceum 37 in Warsaw stack up against 40-grand-a-year private schools? I came from both and was employed three days after my arrival here in 1967. My first salary was exactly $10.6k. In today's money and adjusting for inflation that would be over 70 grand. Not bad for a foreigner from a commie country with a diploma that nobody even bothered to read and hardly any English. Add to this the use-by shelf life of any diploma of about 5 years, and the futility of spending big bucks on the super expensive prestigious universities becomes clear - with some notable exceptions like MIT, if you can get in.

Comparing education in the US and Eastern Europe makes no sense without separating the statistics for the whites from the blacks and the Latinos. Take any white country like Poland, drop 5 million blacks on it and you will have the US instantly. Did you know that the murder rate in New Hamphire with all those guns under every bed is actaully lower than in Canada, France, and the UK? It is so because the state is 90% white.
Rich Mazur   
19 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

@johnny reb
Do you guys have reading comprehension problems here? I wrote that at that hospital they would not even discuss what insurance I had or bother to call a toll-free number to check if it was good in Poland. It was. And how the hell do I check if some bloody hospital in Warsaw will accept the insurance I am about to buy? You can't get that kind of information from the Polish Consulate in Chicago. For my new-form birth certificate I had to go to the USC in Warsaw in person because nothing can be done by mail or phone. People who call locally in Warsaw can't get through. The Polish Consulate here never picks up if you call them. In the US, I can call the White House and somebody will answer. That is another reason why I never want to have anything to do with anything Polish.

If you call what I write trolling than you have no idea what trolling is. Just because you don't like a post does not mean it's trolling. Trolling is posting to deliberately elicit an angry response. I really don't care how anyone feels or responds.
Rich Mazur   
19 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

No, it does not. It does not take much for the bill to be $40 grand. Can you pay $40 grand up front because you got hit by a car? Do you even have $40 grand at all, much less when you are a tourist in a foreign country? What you are talking about is a splinter or running nose money? I am talking about accidents. You know, the things that are bloody and happen unexpectedly.
Rich Mazur   
19 May 2018
USA, Canada / Polish or American Education? [180]

I see all these kids spending time playing frisbee, drinking or protesting trump or whatever instead of studying or working or networking.

...or study garbage like Black or Women's studies. The latter being especially useful if you want to be a receptionist at a Planned Parenthood murder chamber.
Rich Mazur   
20 May 2018
USA, Canada / Polish or American Education? [180]

When I look at what is happening in the US and, more specifically, at the universities, I have this queasy feeling that communism, like a monster in a horror movie with no end, is catching up with me and I have no place to run.
Rich Mazur   
20 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

$35 Dollars??? When was this back in the 1980`s?

That was in 2010. Today, it's $110.
Rich Mazur   
20 May 2018
Life / I'm British in Poland and I think that it's time to go back to the UK! [240]

Poland's problem is how to protect itself from the hordes of refugees and other scum that the UK, France, Germany, and Italy so cheerfully took in. One way is by keeping the welfare benefits lower. I am glad that it is hard for the foreigners to settle down in Poland.
Rich Mazur   
20 May 2018
Life / I'm British in Poland and I think that it's time to go back to the UK! [240]

All British expats complain about customer service in Poland. What the heck?

How true. The ultimate case: a clinic that does not take credit cards. The restroom ladies do and so do bars if you want to get drunk. Hospitals and clinics? No way.
Rich Mazur   
20 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

All fake from the start. No match to reality.

You got me. I am actually not even a real person. You know how they can make AI robots that appear to be humans. That's me.

You guys give yourself too much importance. What possible reason would I have to put the effort into creating fake reality? To amuse you?

So I made a mistake about the $35 passport fee. BFD. But the rest - a four-page form and three weeks to get it - was real. Happy now?
Rich Mazur   
20 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

And that's the best you can do? If the rest of you in Poland are equally brilliant, no wonder I never ever want to go there again.
Rich Mazur   
20 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

Ironside,

One day, just an an experiment, go to a public restroom, and (1) DO NOT CLOSE THE DOOR, (2) DO NOT USE TOILET PAPER, (3) AND DO NOT WASH YOUR HANDS, and tell me how you and your rear end felt. That's exactly what I experienced in that school in Radom and was told that that was normal there.
Rich Mazur   
20 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

I find it quite disturbing that your mind can create scenes that never happened. Sick.
Rich Mazur   
20 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

You've admitted to us

Read again and this time pay attention to what you are reading.
Rich Mazur   
20 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

I've read it. You...

No, you didn't.

Where did I say that I used the stall without the door? Fact: I used the one with the door.

Where did I say that I used the restroom in violation of the school rules? Fact: I asked first where to go.

Yes, I entered the building without prior permission and stayed in the area where such adhoc visits are permitted. It's called a lobby. After I was cleared by the director to enter a classroom accompanied by a teacher, I was INVITED.

A sick mind is a terrible thing to own and manage.
Rich Mazur   
20 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

Back to grafitti. The American grafitti by the gangs is better because it serves a specific purpose of letting the competing gangs know where they will be shot if they trespass. They do it to protect their turf and their business cash flow. Not legal but easy to understand.

Polish grafitti is moronic and without anything that connects with intelligent acts by humans. What purpose does it serve to write "jebac" on a gazebo in a Radom park where kids play? Other than this piece of prose, a monkey with a bucket of paint and a brush would be just as capable of producing the average grafitti found in the Polish cities - just some paint randomly splashed to make what was pretty ugly. The fact that this form of vandalism can be easily stopped before the sun goes down and is not shows the sick attitude by the authorities and the society.

Some of it is puzzling. On Warecka near Kubus Puchatek where I used to live, there is grafitti as high as 20 feet off the ground. That was not easy to do it. To pull this off, the artist needed a ladder or an extension with a remote paint release. All that for absolutely nothing. Maybe Sharia law would be good after all.
Rich Mazur   
21 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

My best advise to those tourists whose English is better than Polish: use English and only if you are getting nowhere and you are totally desperate switch to Polish. Thanks to English being mandatory from K to 11 (or is it 12?) everybody under 30 speaks very good English in Poland.

When you use Polish at such places as railroad stations, with that background noise and the fast talking clerk behind a bullet-proof glass, you are screwed and at a disadvantage as I was at Gdansk Glowny one day in September. I couldn't figure out what the hell she was saying.

Then, out of desperation, I switched to English. Now the advantage was mine because she spoke a lot more slowly and used simple words. Was it because she felt sorry for me or because this was the best she could do I will never know. But it worked.

In fact, many young people show some pride in being able to carry on a normal conversation without being first ask "do you speak English?" Today, it's almost a rhetorical question, bordering on offensive - something I am often forced to do in the Palatine Walmart in the United States of America.
Rich Mazur   
21 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

It seems that the most popular word in the Polish language is kurwa. The way it's used, I mean the frequency, reminds me how I abused ty wiesz (you know) when I was a kid. Kurwa, a fillerword injected without purpose, has no equivalent in English, it seems. If somebody here can explain why Poles use it in the course of normal conversation and so often, I will be grateful.

In my opinion, the f word we use here is not the same. Maybe s***. It's added to express all kinds of feelings. Like physical pain, a disappointment, anger. When used sporadically, and with that certain tone of voice, it's acceptable in many situations - especially when everybody knows it was meant as a joke. So even in this area, just as with grafitti, the US wins.

BTW, at least where I live, here in Palatine, every park has a bathroom, toilet paper, and water and soap to wash hands. And no missing doors. And there is no way to pay even if you wanted. Not even a coin box if you want to make a voluntary contribution. Hopefully, nobody here will try to copy the restroom brilliance from Poland.
Rich Mazur   
21 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

Enjoy those $10k+ yearly property taxes to pay for such a thing!

First, my property tax is $5600, not $10k. We own a 2200 square foot townhouse which includes three full and one half bathrooms, three bedrooms, combination living room, dining room and an eat-in kitchen on the main floor, fire place, and a finished walk-out basement. Even the two-car garage is all dry walled. BTW, with two Lexus cars in it. Would you like a picture?

Second, everything is relative. My last salary just before I retired was $117k plus $35k bonus. That, of course, was per year. What is yours?

After retiring, my income took a dive, obviously. Between the Social Security benefits and the interest on our CD's, it's about $90k. I think I can afford $5.6k property tax, don't you think so, or am I overlooking something?

unlike in the glorious United States of Dysfunction.

Just curious to know how and why you came up with that "dysfunction". I am not only not offended, which is a default reaction to everything lately, but I agree with you. I am sincerely interested in you POV on that matter. I could tallk about how dysfunctional the US is for a day and half and still not be done.

Let me know what is on your list. I think the mods will forgive a little digression.
Rich Mazur   
21 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

Yes, pretty obvious that it's the same troll that has been here under several different other names.

Can you just drop that bs about my multiple personalities, trolling, and s***, and respond to the subjects I raised if you want to respond at all? I found this forum a day before I signed up, so FO.
Rich Mazur   
21 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

Yes, and there's one huge 'tell' in his latest character. I spotted a mile away as soon as he started boasting about America.

I just invited you to talk about how dysfunctional the US is in my Post #58 and that's the crap I get in return.

To refresh your memory, this is what I wrote there:

Just curious to know how and why you came up with that "dysfunction". I am not only not offended, which is a default reaction to everything lately, but I agree with you. I am sincerely interested in you POV on that matter. I could talk about how dysfunctional the US is for a day and half and still not be done.

Are there any words in the above that you didn't come across yet. No shame in admitting it because you are among friend and we will not tell on you.

BTW, are you OK?
Rich Mazur   
21 May 2018
Life / Is time on Poland's side? Unsustainable future. [21]

The way things are moving in the US, WE, and Poland, the word unsustainable comes to mind. Personally, I should not care because of my age. Being emotionally invested in the country where I grew up - yes, trolls, that would be Poland - and where my home and my family are which is the US, it is painful to see how time is not on my side or on the side of white Christians. What the "democracies" are unable to do is plan long term and make their systems sustainable. I have no doubt that Europe is on its way to a disaster or another Hitler. Poland's future is equally bleak by being connected to the suicidal morons ithe WE for the money it receives.
Rich Mazur   
21 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

Back to the the second reason reason why I left Poland after only three days: the emergency health care for foreign tourists. The answers I got talking to a random hospital in Warsaw, politely and in Polish, are the main reason why I will never go back.

So, all of you trolls, stay with me for the next 30 seconds. I just came back from a typical American hospital. The one I chose to get the info I needed to compare is NCH in Arlington Heights. I spoke to someone in the Administration and was told without any equivocation the following:

1. We never refuse to treat anyone in our ER. Ever.
2. We will write off the expenses by moving them to the charitable file if the patient never comes back after discharge to give us more information.

3. If he does come back and has travel health insurance, we immediately verify it on the spot.
4. We never expect any payment before treatment. Only after the insurance paid what it is supposed. If they don't, we eat it.

I do admit that as I was listening to that lady I got a lump in my throat and that my eyes got a little wet because, again, as the song goes, nothing compares to you, the USA. Nothing.

Is the US perfect? Hell, no. But if you want to get sick, that is where you want to do it. Just ask our friends in Canada and the assorted creeps ruling Africa and other hellholes.
Rich Mazur   
21 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

No need to hope. I already said that this would never happen.
Rich Mazur   
21 May 2018
Travel / Poland - never again [593]

@Lyzko
English is so common in Poland among the 30 and under that I would default to English and I was never disappointed. In all honesty, I don't even remember when I spoke Polish and when I did in English. Berlin was a different matter. I was like a baby lost in the jungle, exept for the hotels.

Strange that you still haven't provided us with any evidence that you can read and comprehend English.