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adze1986   
8 Aug 2017
Law / Last will in Poland - (can a stranger inherit everything?) [40]

Hi,
My partners father passed away 4 days ago, now they had not spoken in 9 months since her mother passed away in November 2016. and the day after she finds out her father has died she found out he was engaged to a 35yr old he was now seeing he died at 67. so in the 9 months since her mothers death he had met a 35yr old and made a new will in Poland leaving her in control of everything and to inherit everything. she has told my partner she is forbidden to go to the funeral and she will call the police, she has also said if my partner doesn't do as she is told she will burn everything of her diseased mother and brothers. she has informed her that she will inherit nothing as her father disowned her and left everything to this new girlfriend. she was given the number of the lawyer in Poland who sorted out the will and he told her that she cannot do anything and must wait 45 days for them to read the will and at that time she will be called to inform of anything. can anyone give any advice on what to expect? this seams so strange to me that this new person who was in his life less than 9 months now owns all of her familys things. and she is his only living child is forbidden from going to the funeral. she cant find out what the will says but this woman has a copy because she was there. her father was wealthy and owned land and buissness in America my partners family home is in America that her dad built and she will never be allowed anything unless this new woman allows it? is there anything she can do? or is it just a case of waiting till shee is told about the will and then get a polish lawyer to examine it? and if that's the case will it not be to late because all his assets and accounts will be given to her?

im sorry for the rant, I don't know how to help her and know nothing about polish law and she is to upset to do anything at all.
adze1986   
8 Aug 2017
Law / Last will in Poland - (can a stranger inherit everything?) [40]

she is unsure how much her fathers assets are worth but she knows he paid 8 million dollars for his American house 15 years ago. so you can imagine being told it is all going to a stranger not even a relative is hard. her father has 2 living brothers and a sister and just one living child. any information would be greatly appreciated as right now all she can do it sit here knowing she cant even go to the funeral. apparently it was written that he didn't want her there. but again all she has to go off is what she is told by this woman and a lawyer who will not give her any information other that wait over a month and we will call you.
adze1986   
8 Aug 2017
Law / Last will in Poland - (can a stranger inherit everything?) [40]

Thank you for your reply, after speaking to the person who wrote the will in Poland she was told she can do nothing but wait until they contact her. they couldn't reveal any information other than the woman had every right to what she was doing and my partner had no choice but to wait or face legal action. my partner lives in the uk and so she cant even go and speak face to face with who ever this person is. the woman in question refused to speak to her and merely shouted things in the background of a conversation on the phone with her aunt for example saying if she didn't do as she was told she would burn her mothers and brothers things. all we know at the minute is that she has been told she will get nothing, she will be arrested if she attempts to attend her fathers funeral and that this woman has a copy of the will and own everything.
adze1986   
9 Aug 2017
Law / Last will in Poland - (can a stranger inherit everything?) [40]

her mother died in November of cancer they hid this condition from her and she was angry at her father for not letting her know so she could say goodbye before she died, her father came to visit her after her mothers death and told her she had to move back to America with him, needless to say she didn't want to give up her life and because she refused to move back to America they argued and stopped talking. I have been trying to find out as much information as possible but until the will is read we have no information about anything. is it possible to contest a will in Poland for example could you argue this woman only knew him 9 months at the most and took advantage of him. I realise they were not talking but that was a temporary thing and they would have made up. I think its harsh that this person now gets half of everything I get that her dads stuff is his but its harsh that because her mother passed away not long ago he has all her stuff and that's now this womans aswell.
adze1986   
9 Aug 2017
Law / Last will in Poland - (can a stranger inherit everything?) [40]

its all very confusing, it appears his property and bank accounts that are frozen at the moment (according to information from her cousin) are all based in the US. but he made his new will in Poland as his new girlfriend did not have a visa and could not go to America. he was visiting Poland a lot in the last few months to see this woman. they were arranging the marriage so she could go to America. now from what she has been told this woman has all rights and is in control of all his assets in the will, we don't know for sure because nobody will tell her anything. its like she has no rights to know anything unless this stranger allows it and she will not. the only things this woman has said to my partner by shouting in the background of a phone conversation is that if she doesn't do as she is told she will burn her mothers and brothers things, that she will get nothing, that its her fault her father died and that she will have her arrested if she goes to the funeral. I realise the possibility of being arrested is probably not great but if she was arrested that would cause problems for her to return home to the uk. and she doesn't want every memory of her mother and brother to be destroyed. it is all so confusing and im worried that if she has to wait until the will is read then it will be to late and everything will be in this womans hands. we have booked her a flight to Poland in 2 weeks were she will go see if she can get a lawyer.
adze1986   
9 Aug 2017
Law / Last will in Poland - (can a stranger inherit everything?) [40]

i know I sounds stupid and but its not about the money, we don't have money now so we wont miss not having it. we get by and we are happy. its more the fact a stranger now gets to have all her family things. her family home all the possessions of her mother and brother. his house in America for example has a room for her and her brother that he didn't change or move this will all now be this womans. things like pictures in his house she will have. she could only have been in his life for 9 months as that's when her mother passed away in America. and even then he still lived and had a business to run in America so he had to visit Poland to see her. so after say 6 months of seeing this woman she has everything. this woman is 4 yrs older than his daughter and now owns her family. and because she is in charge of everything my partners mothers family is siding with her because they will get money. nobody informed my partner he had a partner until she said she was getting a flight for the funeral. her aunt (mothers sister) ssaid they were sorting the funeral when my partener said she wanted to come over and help it all kicked off.
adze1986   
9 Aug 2017
Law / Last will in Poland - (can a stranger inherit everything?) [40]

thankyou for your reply. I don not understand polish law even slightly and when she travels to Poland she will seek help from a lawyer, with the drama ect I wondered if she could contest the will. for example this woman will get half of everything and the rest will be split between family, so 50% for her then she descides who gets what of the other 50% so between his 2 brothers his sister and his daughter but does that also include is deseased wifs family my partners aunt for example would have still been his sister in law so is the 50% going to be split between all of them? the will leaves this woman in control of everything can she contest this as from my point of view (obviously bias) this is a 35 yr old woman who took advantage of a 67 yr old who just lost his wife. in Poland could my partner contest the will and gain control of who gets what ect or is this just how things go sometimes and she has no choice but to sit back and get what she is given.
adze1986   
9 Aug 2017
Law / Last will in Poland - (can a stranger inherit everything?) [40]

thankyou for the information like I said its better we know some things than nothing at all.

so far as I understand it, the girlfriend controls his funeral and is named as sole benefactor in the will, but polish law will decide how much all the assets are worth and split everything into two half's. she will get half and the other half will be split between the family. does the girlfriend get to choose who gets what share of that 50% or does the law split it evenly between the family? and is it all family or just close family like brothers and children or extended such as sister in laws ect.
adze1986   
9 Aug 2017
Law / Last will in Poland - (can a stranger inherit everything?) [40]

thats another thing we don't understand. he was polish and made a will in Poland but all of his assets are in America. does this new will made in Poland still over rule any previous will made in America or is it something she would need to hire a lawyer in new jersery for.
adze1986   
9 Aug 2017
Law / Last will in Poland - (can a stranger inherit everything?) [40]

would you advise she try and contact a lawyer in Poland now or wait until she flies over on the 25th. my concerns are that if she waits till the 25th could it be to late and the will could already be enacted or however it works, I tried to find as much information as possible and its so confusing, the new jersey side says you have 10 days after death to appose the will but from Poland she is being told that she cannot know anything about the will until it is read and they contact her in 45 days.
adze1986   
9 Aug 2017
Law / Last will in Poland - (can a stranger inherit everything?) [40]

Hi,
We don't have the money for a lawyer at present but will get one as soon as possible. thankyou for advice and we did try and enquire about the will but she was told she cannot have any information about it. to be honest she rang up the number she was given after being told she was not allowed at the funeral. the person on the phone told her that everything was under the girlfriends control and advised she stay away or risk being arrested. she was told she could not have any information about the will other than there was a note saying she and several other people were not to attend the funeral. they took her number and said all she could do was wait 45 days for them to contact her. her cousin in Poland apparently went to the office to check for her and was told the same
adze1986   
9 Aug 2017
Law / Last will in Poland - (can a stranger inherit everything?) [40]

i read online that if the person has more than one nationality then the laws of the country they are connected to the most are applicable as her father was an American citizen as well and lived and had at least most of his assets in America. does this make things even more complicated.
adze1986   
9 Aug 2017
Law / Last will in Poland - (can a stranger inherit everything?) [40]

sorry i created an extra account there to reply.

going over what has been said am I understanding this wrong,

because the will is in Poland and will be executed in Poland does that mean even if the girlfriend gets everything the court will tell her to pay the family a portion.

so for example the assets are worth 100 then she is entitled to 50 and then 50 will be allocated to his 2 brother and sister and the daughter (just immediate family)

so she will own everything but still be required to pay the family a court decided amount.

she will then have to go to America and sort out getting everything signed over to her and pay for the legal fees and tax's ect but still have to pay the 50% to the family.

wishfull thinking maybe but fun to think even if she gets everything after paying the taxs and portion she will be left with a lot less than she thinks