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skarbitzki   
3 Dec 2015
Genealogy / SKARBITZKI (Skarbietzky or Skarbitzky) from Dobrzetz/Breslau emigrated to the US in 1861 [11]

I'm looking for information on the surnames of a pair of ancestors who emigrated to the US in 1861 - Anton and Maria SKARBITZKI (also written Skarbietzky or Skarbitzky), from Dobrzetz / Breslau. I realize the anglicized Skarbitzki is probably Skarbiecki or perhaps even Skarbinski.

Maria's maiden name is listed in a couple of places as Starry or Stari, and in another place as Yntz. I know Stary means old in Polish so I'm curious about the significance of it as a last name. They were married in about 1860.
skarbitzki   
4 Dec 2015
Genealogy / SKARBITZKI (Skarbietzky or Skarbitzky) from Dobrzetz/Breslau emigrated to the US in 1861 [11]

I have the petition for naturalization from Ancestry.com - they just say he renounces his allegiance to the Emperor of Germany. Would there be more records held at the State Archive with more information?

Re: the name of the town, on their ship record from 1861 it says Dobrzetz (which is now Dobrzec) but then in 1874 a birth record for a son lists it as Breslau, which was also the name of the region Dobrzetz is in.
skarbitzki   
7 Dec 2015
Genealogy / SKARBITZKI (Skarbietzky or Skarbitzky) from Dobrzetz/Breslau emigrated to the US in 1861 [11]

Good question! My current guess is here
google.com/maps/place/Dobrzec,+Poland/@51.4219794,17.4084463,11z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x470555207f505021:0x0d11be06da96c7d5
just Northwest of Międzybórz (old Neumittelwalde), judging by comparing old maps like this one
gross-wartenberg.de/wikigw/index.php/Dobrzetz
and this more recent one with google maps.
i.ebayimg.com/t/Breslau-Wroc-aw-Zabrze-Opole-1939-Leuna-Autokarte-Reichsautobahn-Brzeg-Bytom-/00/s/MTI3NlgxNTg4/z/y5EAAOSwbdpWWLjO/$_57.JPG

The information I found indicated that at least in 1900, Kreis Gross Wartenberg was administratively within the greater *district* of Breslau at that time (presumably Kreis Breslau was also), so it would make sense for them to put Breslau down as their origin (also probably easier for Americans to spell than Dobrzetz!)

gemeindeverzeichnis.de/gem1900/gem1900.htm?schlesien/gross-wartenberg.htm
skarbitzki   
7 Dec 2015
Genealogy / SKARBITZKI (Skarbietzky or Skarbitzky) from Dobrzetz/Breslau emigrated to the US in 1861 [11]

From looking at a few of them, the renunciation text is standard boilerplate for naturalizations around that time (at least in New York).
It reads: "I, [name] do declare on oath, that it is bona fide my Intention to become a Citizen of the United States, and to renounce forever all allegiance to any foreign Prince, Potentate, State or Sovereignty whatever, and particularly to the [] of whom I am a subject."

So that immigrants from London would renounce their allegiance to the "King of England", whereas immigrants from Germany might enter "Emperor of Germany". It does seem odd from a modern point of view.

Thanks for the info on the last names! I agree Yntz is bizarre, so far 2 out of 3 documents I've found mentioning her maiden name say Starry or Stari but one very clearly says "Yntz", that one may remain a mystery!