Language / Going to learn the Polish Genitive Case [28]

so male , female and neut nouns have set genitive replacing letters generally . thats good .

so are all male names male nouns is there any male names ending in A or I or O etc and if so do they get the male genitive replacement letter regardless or must they then have the female or neut replacement genitive ending ?

also do you have to use change or alter any other words /pronouns in the genitive or is it just nouns ? i noticed there were diferent versions of " who " and " what" depending on which case but i dont understand why .

and i also see you have put - piłka ( tego ) dziecka - i havnt seen this word yest is this a genitive version of a word ? if so how many others is there ?

Language / Going to learn the Polish Genitive Case [28]

yes ive seen similar lists before
simple explanations are more of what im after , along with them

Language / Going to learn the Polish Genitive Case [28]

ok thank you for taking the time to explain , you have helped.

i have looked on the slavic site many times and many others , but half of the words they are using i do not understand , so i certainly can not use it to understand another language , i am trying , i am not wasting your time . i am just not getting how these question/tables are surpose to help , ? i do not know how i am surpsoe to implement them into building a sentence in my head and choosing the right ending of a word by thinking through different versions of Who/what ? some one telling me here that male nouns get an (A) when in the genitive and female get an I or Y .. that helps , that sinks in , i can use that

,2. (D.) dopełniacz (genitive case) - Kogo? Czego? chłopca Kogo nie ma? Nie ma tego chłopca- this ... not so much

but not many of these tables , books , explain things in a way i can use , hell even rosetta doesnt actually explain anything you just guess to start with . at least that sinks in though , i think i will start level 2 , try that hurra po polsku thing and see where im at after that .

I will get it !

Language / tej samej versus tego samego [9]

Merged: why is tej samej and not tego samego ?

te telefony komorkowe sa ... " tej samej/tego samego ? " wielkosci , ale roznych kolorow ??

i thought because telefony komorkowe ends with an e it would be a Tego samego , and then i thought well maybe it goes off of the telefony which ends in y but that would mean its male and it should still be tego samego .. if i am understanding this page / chart from the slavic website you guys keep posting up , i know its a bit crushed but it says female is tej . but im obviously understanding somehting wrong . hope you can help .

Demonstrative and Relative Pronouns
Polish does not have indefinite and definite articles analogous to English (a, an, the). One
concludes from the context whether or not a given noun is definite or indefinite. Thus,
stół may mean either "a table" or "the table." Often placement in a sentence will translate
to "the" (initial position) or "a" (final position): Stół stoi w kącie (The table is standing
in the corner), vs. W kącie stoi stół (In the corner is standing a table). Definiteness may
be stressed by using the demonstrative pronoun ten ta to (this, that). Both demonstrative
and relative pronouns have full case-and-number declensions.
ten ta to this, that (Demonstrative Pronoun)
Masc. Neut. Fem. Masc. Pers. Pl. Other. Pl.
N ten to ta ci te
G tego tego tej tych tych
D temu temu tej tym tym
A =N/G =N tę =G =N
I tym tym tą tymi tymi
L tym tym tej tych tych
Final ę in tę is not denasalized. Colloquially, tę is often pronounced tą.

Language / tej samej versus tego samego [9]

Feminine nouns usually end in -a: For example: kobieta (ko-bye-ta) (woman), gazeta
(ga-ze-ta) (newspaper) and Polska (pol-ska) (Poland). A few feminine nouns end in -i,
such as pani (pa-n'ee) (Mrs) and sprzedawczyni (spshe-daf-chih-n'ee) (sales assistant) ???

wielkosci ends in i yes .. but you have put ...... wielkość in your reply , i imagine because this is the nomittive/dictionary form of the word ?

Language / tej samej versus tego samego [9]

Proceed with caution i like that . i laughed .

WHoo whooo whooo sweet child of mine .. my book said nothing about no s'c' ending female nouns .. !

stupid book

male single = consonant , male plural = y , female single =a female plural = y ( i after the letters k or g ) - neuter single = e or o or um . neuter plural = a .. like piva

yestem idie' za skelp cstery ,cstery pivaaaa dva pomoots zkim moi po polsku hahahaha

Language / tej samej versus tego samego [9]

s0oooo basically there is no set rule , like theres the " exception to the rule " but you poles are taking the **** now ...

on a serious note i will look out for any nouns ending with a letter with a litte stick above them .. and then i will besically guess i think and then try and remember .

P.S - why in a million years does rossetta think i am going to know that wielkość is female ... ON LEVEL 1 !!!!!!!!????????

Language / kilka vs troche ? [12]

so if i had a glass of beer ...and some one asked if i wanted a drink i would say ... sumthing like nie moi percheyacello!! (forgot the way you write it ) , mam trohe piva!!(maybe piv?) ?

but if i had say ... 4 cans of beer i would say mam killka piva ?

Language / kilka vs troche ? [12]

if mam piwo is ( nomitive) why is mam troche piwa genitive ?
i do not understand what you mean by " killlka works like numbers over 5 " ?
i do not understand what " jeszcze " means either sorry

if you use troche or killka in a sentence does it make the noun a pluralbecause your offering a quantity , or maybe just killka ? or no to both ?

Language / kilka vs troche ? [12]

- it is because mam requires noun in Accusative- ????

So is it accusative or genitive ?? mixed replys here.

i thought it would not be genitive because it is not using the " of " / " 's " rule .. so like , i have adam's beer .. would be genitive . or " beer of adam " but you are not using either of those two , or is genitive when saying that I , myself have anything ? i have cat i have beer , i have 24 pairs of shoes etc , if so what about we have ? or they have ? or you have ?

again cave man simpe answers would be great , apologies if your feel like you are teaching a brick wall here but it will sink in .

Thank you to any helpful replyers

Language / Polish past tense, confusion - łem, łeś, łam, łaś, ła etc. / przeczytasz [11]

Sorry it was me that posted off my phone, my speeling was off the correct is like xxxyyy said " przeczytasz " the sentence is " przeczytasz te ksiazke ? " . but i do not not understand the word as it has PRZE in front ? czytasz i get , Przeczytalem i kind of get ( i think it means that you were reading ) like yester day i was reading would be somthing like wzcojai przeczytalem . why not just czytasz te ksiazke ? what does it all mean please ? does putting Prze in front of present tense verbs make something im not aware about. thanks for all help

Language / Polish past tense, confusion - łem, łeś, łam, łaś, ła etc. / przeczytasz [11]

This is fascinating and completely new to me , i didnt know you could attach those prefixes to verbs and change the whole meaning .

I will look into this , can you explain one last little thing . there are imperfective and perfective forms of each verb yes? and the imperfective is czytac / czytam czyta etc , but i read that the perfective form is used to descrive a finshed state like " i have read a book " instead of czytam ksiazke ( reading a book . so woudnt you use the perfective form of czytac instead of przeczytasz ?

Thank you for your excellent detailed answer polonius

Language / Polish past tense, confusion - łem, łeś, łam, łaś, ła etc. / przeczytasz [11]

haha , doh ! thanks