News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]


Or claim to have. Knowledge of the Polish language here is very much self-assessed.


You don't know Poland, do you. You just know Polish Forums. Or more precisely personal information about posters on Polish Forums.

Perhaps try leaving your computer and get out and about more. And btw claiming knowledge of Polish on some expat internet forum is a very poor substitute for actually using Polish in the real world, that strange, bizarre and wholly unfamiliar place beyond your computer screen.

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Case of 'saying' rather than 'showing', isn't it.

Personally, I observe what people do rather than listen to what they say.

A life spent in front of a computer screen on English language forums boasting about your proficiency in Polish is hardly much of a substitute for actually using Polish IRL.


You fight with every new poster coming onto this forum. Just to let them know their place. That Polish Forums is 'Delphi's domain'.


And you can retrieve the quote from your index linked filling system, no doubt. Was the quote made on Polish Forums, or were you forced to visit other sites for additional research?


I'd just so love to be a 'fly on the wall' .....


Should I read the title of this thread to some of you or are you able to come back on topic by yourself?

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]

I'll third that. Anyone who believes otherwise simply doesn't know Poland.


You may be surprised to learn that the poor in Poland don't generally own businesses. :roll:

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]

Indeed, I would be genuinely surprised to learn that. The kind of people who worked on the former collectivised farms, perhaps? Probably, because for many of the really poor, it simply isn't true.

And for those who do have assets, they are still 'poor'. They could always exchange their property for cash, and go and live where exactly?

UK, Ireland / wife wants to have baby in poland not ireland [52]


Indeed. Not bad at all. (If you have contacts and/or pay privately).

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The Polish health service has always treated me just great. It also treats my in-laws extremely well. On one occasion a Polish doctor literally saved my life.

This may have something to do with the fact that I am often asked to translate/proof-read medical papers by medical professionals, and have close friends who are doctors.

On the other hand, I remember my mother-in-law dying painfully of cancer, before I had made such contacts. She was treated like sh1t.

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Clearly you belong Victorian era with your attitudes to the 'deserving' and 'undeserving' poor.


Those who 'made it' during those times tended to be those already in a position of power - the former communist big-wigs.


What marketable skill have you got other than the ability to speak your own mother tongue?

What, other than your own arrogance and conceit, makes you any better than they are?

UK, Ireland / wife wants to have baby in poland not ireland [52]

This seems to be the opposite of what you had been informing us earlier. The health service in Poland is great. But that's only really true for the 'haves'.

I honestly believe that care in the UK is more 'universal', and that the quality of it does not necessarily depend on your financial/social relationship with the person treating you.

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]


You judge others as being responsible for their own misfortune.

If you count yourself as being one of the 'fortunate', then you must possess some 'virtue' or 'skill' denied to the 'undeserving poor'.

What 'skill', other than an ability to speak your native language, would that be?

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]


I see. So the likes of Polish teachers and nurses have only themselves to blame for not being 'rich' by Western standards.

That's bullsh1t. Some people work hard all their lives and have little or nothing to show for it. Others get rich without necessarily working hard. Film stars and footballers are the world's most industrious inhabitants, whereas rickshaw drivers and peasant farmers are bone idle.

You don't live in the real world, do you, Delphi.

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I see. So Poles, in your opinion, should compare themselves with those in Third rather than First World nations. How characteristically arrogant of you.


Not everyone happens to be 'academic'. How well do you think you would do in a 'physical' job? I respect everyone irrespective of their education.


Aye, some work hard. Others, e.g. Paul Gascoigne, George Best, just happen to be 'gifted'. Some women are born beautiful, others not. All people are of equal value.

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I'm sure Poles on this forum will feel reassured to learn that you regard the likes of Bangladesh as their 'peers' rather than the U.K..


Therefore, if I happen to be richer than you, that also makes me 'better' than you. Nice to know. Or were you only attempting to make a comparison between yourself and 'third-world' Poles?

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I haven't 'twisted your words'. Your stock reply to anyone comparing Polish poverty with that of the UK is to state that Poles should be comparing themselves with those living in, for example, Bangladesh. It's a point you've made on a number of occasions.


Cool. :)

UK, Ireland / Learning Polish - Polish shops in England? [34]


Don't see the question as being 'ridiculous', although I imagine I know the answer.

The reaction would be pretty similar to that of a Welsh speaking shop assistant to a stranger spaking Welsh 'yn y Fro Gymraeg'.

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]


Well. it's a bit of both, isn't it. Some people got successful honestly, through hard work, and others dishonestly, through contacts and corruption. There are good and bad rich and poor people. It's facile to suggest otherwise,

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]


Fair enough. 'We all live and learn' as they say (including Poles).

And btw, I really like your posts. We all need to be criticized and to accept criticism - hopefully it will help us to grow as people.

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]

I'm not an expert on this guy. Funnily enough, I am of the 'neo-liberal mindset' myself. I empathise with some of what he is saying.

The point is though, present-day Poles, unlike the Brits and the Irish, haven't had it easy. That's exactly why so many of them have gone to Britain and Ireland to live and work.

Personally, I, unlike my parents, have had it 'easy'. I can, however, empathise with those who have not, and do not look down on those worse off than myself, unless, of course, they have made no effort whatsoever to improve their lives.

Imho, most Poles are no lazier than Brits or Irish, but have a far lower standard of living through no particular fault of their own.

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]

This might be interesting. Apparently wages in Poland are a fifth of those in Denmark, a third of those in Germany and a half that of the Spanish:

Poles work like oxen , and what they have? Earn outrageously low compared to citizens of other European Union countries. According to official data , the average salary he receives for his work Pole is about 2669 gold on hand. But this average is skewed by earnings lavishly remunerated officers, directors and CEOs . Poles really earn much less.

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]


It tells us that, whatever problems other countries are having: 'wages in Poland are a fifth of those in Denmark, a third of those in Germany and a half that of the Spanish'.

Which isn't a happy situation to be in.

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]


They do. And most likely those Norwegians would be comfortably off by Polish standards. If I were you I'd stop reading stuff on the internet and take a good look at the country you happen to be living in.


Living standards in Western countries are what Poles aspire to, and why shouldn't they? German industry was completely destroyed during WW2, but West Germany was outperforming the UK economically by the nineteen-sixties.

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They are well off by Polish standards whether they happen to live in Norway or Poland. There is no family allowance in Poland, for example. But as you obviously prefer to believe the fantasy version of life in Poland you have read about on the internet to the somewhat (by Western norms) harsh reality, I won't make any further attempts to shatter your illusions.

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]


That's quite interesting because a lot of Poles are now 'colonising' the former DDR. The houses in the German villages close to Szczecin are being bought up by Szczecinianins. I'm thinking of moving there myself.

If it was easier to live in Poland than Germany then the population flow would be in the other direction.

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There may be a lot to be said for your learning Urdu and applying for a job as a street sweeper in Pakistan. But most likely you wouldn't go for it as the pay's crap.

You don't seem to have grasped the idea that people generally look for work in richer rather than poorer countries.

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]


Not when you get more money being unemployed in your own country.


I know a manager of a call centre in Szczecin. German call centre work is outsourced to Poland. Because Germans won't work for 500 Euro a month. I don't blame them. I wouldn't either.

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]


Great. I'd just love to be able to live in Germany and try to sell double-glazing in Poland for five-hundred Euros a month. Where do I sign up?

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]


Thanks.


What does that mean?

Btw, did you get round to answering the question I asked you a few days ago, or are you still pondering the answer?

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]

OK, Delphi, I give up. You are right as always. So many people moving from Poland to the west, and so few the other direction. How wise you are, and what fools others must be.

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]


Yes, it's hell. Poles should stop complaining and thank their lucky stars they don't live in the west. Why no-one else seems to have come to the same conclusion as yourself is a complete mystery to me. Perhaps these fools should spend more time on Polish Forums and less in the real world, and then they would come to a similar conclusion as yourself.

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I've already said you are right. Absolutely spot on with your analysis. Clearly, you are not some deluded idiot who spends every spare minute of his free time attempting to win pointless internet arguments on some godforsaken forum for expats with far too much time on their hands, but rather a respected authority on European economics and employment law. I can only apologise for having completely misjudged you. In future, I shall be guided by your vast store of knowledge on Poland, gleaned by countless hours of intellectual debate in the chat room of Polish Forums, and discount as valueless all my business and real life experiences in the so-called 'real world'. I can only apologise for having completely misjudged you, and would like to offer my sincerest thanks for finally opening my eyes to the truth.

News / Poland's universities go up in world rankings [23]


Presumably the purpose of this thread is to make fun of Polish universities for being way down the list.

Given that all the top ten are either British or American, would this not suggest an anglocentric bias to the rankings?