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citizen67   
2 Feb 2013
UK, Ireland / What does English sound like to the Poles? [30]

No, I mean, it is how English native speaker, speaking his native language, sounds to Poles.

You're joking!? surely, you mean the other way around!
citizen67   
2 Feb 2013
UK, Ireland / Is the UK referred to as the Islands in Polish media back home? [62]

When once touring in the UK as a teenager, I stopped off at a small hotel in the center of London.

Yeah, that's how we used to be, Europe was some where else, our maps said, "the British Isles and Europe", Europeans were real foreigners, not Chinese or Africans but those funny peculiar people from "Europe".
citizen67   
3 Feb 2013
Life / What's wrong with you, Polish people - is it an inferiority complex? [120]

yes, it is an inferiority complex.

At least there is one intelligent Pole who has seen through the Bull shet they wer brought up on!, This superiority attitude has turned the Poles from being an admired liked sympathetic people into a people most other people despise.

Most Nationalities, perhaps all, nationalities are brought up on some sort of patriotic bullshet of some sort or version", we all hav our national myths and being told we are "special","unique" country/people with a unique role in the World when we kids etc., but intelligent people see through it as they grow up, and realize it is not true, (unfortunately).
citizen67   
3 Feb 2013
UK, Ireland / Do Poles in the UK pretend to be uppity because they have an inferiority complex? [60]

What's wrong about drinking Polish beer?alexnye: They MUST visit a Polish dentist.What's wrong about visiting a Polish dentist??alexnye: He needs a Polish Computer Shop in CardiffWhat's wrong about needing a Polish Computer Shop in Cardiff???If not anywhere else, there should definitely be one in Cardiff !!!! Cardiff without at least one Polish Computer Shop is an ugly and awful place.

Then what's the point of coming/going to Britain? you might as well hav stayed in Poland, if everything Polish is so f*cking wonderful. My god! never has my opinion of a nation dropped so quickly just two hours on this forum yesterday has completely changed my opinion of Poles and for the worse. I used to be a bit supportiv about Poles, "they are ok", "they work hard they" "they don't do me no harm", but now you just come over as arrogant pillocks with a ridiculously over-sized opinion of yourself,n i you all remind of that Polish Bloke that Simon Cowell had a go at on his program (World X Factor), weak humour, up-tight nerd! ;o)
citizen67   
3 Feb 2013
UK, Ireland / Do Poles in the UK pretend to be uppity because they have an inferiority complex? [60]

Is word sarcasm known in the place you live?citizen67: you all remind of that Polish Bloke that Simon Cowell had a go at on his program (World X Factor), weak humour, up-tight nerd! ;o)Can we see it somewhere?

You're another one, mate, totally fail to be 10% funny or witty, this is just appalling, you're like a load of sulking big babies.
citizen67   
3 Feb 2013
UK, Ireland / Do Poles in the UK pretend to be uppity because they have an inferiority complex? [60]

I wasn't trying to be funny. What's wrong with you? Why do you have a cheap on your shoulder?

Chip, Chip Chip. I don't know what you wer trying to be, your post was inane.

I don't really care about it but don't you think it's sometimes useful to look in the mirror?Excuse me for saying so but it's you that sounds sulky to me.

I

not sulking I am baffled by the whining, sulky, big baby attitude on here! I am astounded, don't Poles hav anything positiv to say about anything in the World. I beginning to think I like Germans more than I like Poles after being on this forum. ;o)

and this my picture of a man in a bowler hat smoking a cigarette.

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citizen67   
3 Feb 2013
UK, Ireland / Do Poles in the UK pretend to be uppity because they have an inferiority complex? [60]

I think we hav got a language problem here, I'm speaking English-English, you are speaking Polish- English. The points you are trying to make are very unclear, but anyhoo...

I don't find anything wrong with alexnye's posts.

and Apparently, the Simon Cowell guy was called, something like, Kuba Wojewodski.

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citizen67   
3 Feb 2013
UK, Ireland / Do Poles in the UK pretend to be uppity because they have an inferiority complex? [60]

Citizen67, your written English is not as good as you might have thought.The points she was making were very clear despite not being a native speaker of English.Your accusations about her standard of English are rather insulting as are your posts in general.Maybe you should use a spell-checker yourself..

My God! her (?I thought she was a Bloke) posts aren't clear, to a non-nativ English speaker maybe, but not to a Nativ speaker, this happens a lot.. I did not insult her, in fact I did the opposit and gave her a break, and said, we are having a communication problem here because we are using two different versions of English.

i don't pretend my written English is good and all my spellings are deliberate.
citizen67   
4 Feb 2013
Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

At least we try to learn foreign languages, unlike some of you English people who think you don't need to ;)

What language would you like us to learn? There is a massiv problem for English speakers, anybody learning English is making a wise investment it is a language they will use a lot if they go abroad, it is the World's lingu franca it is worth learning, but what do language do English speakers learn? Welsh? Gaelic? Danish? Finish? Estonian? Hungarian? no offence to these lovely people, but the rewards of learning their language are minimal! if I learn to speak Swedish, I can speak to 8 million Swedes, if a Swede learns English, he can speak to the World !!! and that's the same for a Polish.
citizen67   
4 Feb 2013
Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

Russian or Mandarin, just in case? As per the old joke: what will the price of a pint of milk be in London in 2020? Answer: 5 yuans...

Mandarin is not an international language, although it is a better bet than most other languages, there are a lot of them and the women are good looking. Russian, no chance! sounds like they are talking whilst slurping cabbage soup, it's not that international either.
citizen67   
4 Feb 2013
Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

Wow, I love Russian, seems full of life

really? it is funny how people percieve langauages. The worst sounding language I've come across was Hebrew when I lived on a Kibbutz, it sounded like they were clearing their throats all the time.

At least though I didn't get stuck talking like some Brit with my poor pronunciation and inability to keep the language cleaned up.

I hav no idea what this is meant to be saying? is it humour or something? it is difficult to tell.
citizen67   
4 Feb 2013
Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

Sat outside a hotel in Krak' smoking a fag I overheard two groups of teenagers talking to each other, a group of local Poles and a group of Scandinavians,guess what,they were communicating in English,so,yeah, I can see the argument for English speakers just not bothering.

It is NOT a case of just not bothering, it is; WHICH ONE?

You Poles say you hav 7 neighbours, for us it is like having to learn the language of every single one of them, I doubt very much you Poles speak even one of your neighbour's languages, but if you learn English you can speak to EVERYONE single one of your neighbours, there is a big insentiv to learning English, it is worth the effort.

How much of an asset learning English is and how wide spread it has become, I will giv you an example; today I was in an Chinese restaurant, when I group of Oriental people came in, I assumed that they wer Chinese, but when the waitress took their orders, she had to speak to them and they to her in English, I found out later they wer Vietnamese people not Chinese. So you hav two countries on the other side of the World, right next to each other, and they hav to communicate to each other in English!!!! I think it shows how International English has become the World's lingu franca.

Also it is easier for you to learn English than for us to learn another language.

1. You are all taught English at school, in England we do learn foreign languages, but one school will teach French, another school will teach German, that school teaches Spanish, and another school, trying to be all trendy and right-on, will teach Mandarin or some other language, like my niece's school, and since she has changed schools, she's stop learning Mandarin, and is now learning another language. You don't hav that "stop-start" non sense we hav, you can always add what English you learn to the English you hav already learned.

2. It is worth making the effort as we hav discussed before, no matter how much it is ******* you off it is still worth persevering learning English for all the rewards you are going to get., no English speaker has that incentiv.

3. You watch England language programs and films all the time, pick up a bit of English all the time - I think i hav watch two Polish language (with sub-titles) films in my life.

4. Even today, decades after it started, Pop Music, Rock Music what ever you want to call it, is still over-overwhelmingly in English. I don't think we hav ever had a Polish language Pop song in our charts, I can only think of about 4 foreign language songs that hav got into our Pop charts in the last 50 years, one of them being Gangnam Style which is in the charts at the moment, the others a Hebrew song in the 70's, a Spanish holidaySong in the 70's, una polona Blanca or something like that, there are probably others, but your charts are full of English language songs, and we all know how teenagers love Pop Music and culture, that is another source and insentiv to learn English, which they are already learning at school and watching on Telly at the same time.
citizen67   
4 Feb 2013
Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

*Why would Polish people learn French 20 years + ago? You wer under an oppressiv Government that would not allow you out of the country and certainly not to travel to France, a Western country.

Are you saying Polish children are cleverer than British children because they can speak English? That seems to be what you are saying.
citizen67   
4 Feb 2013
Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

Sure, Citizen, they all "learn" English, just as we all "learn" compulsory arithmetic/maths in school. Doesn't mean though that most of us are all that good at itLOL

Lyzko, I don't think you get the point I am getting at. Even since I was 18 and first went aboard, to a Kibbutz in Israel 31 years ago, I come across this constant sneering about British (and other English speakers British, Irish, American, Canadian, New Zealand, Australian, Jamaican, West Indian, Guyanese, South Africans, so on and so forth) not speaking other languages, the implication is we are not intelligent, but I ask you (again) what language do you want us to learn?

If there was Two World Lingu Francas we would learn the other one.
citizen67   
4 Feb 2013
Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

hardlypoland even during communism was very big on teaching languagesas for getting out of the countrymany people didthe border was not as sealed as you might imagineforeign currency transfers to poland did a lot to keep the country solventespecially in the 80'senglish was very commonly taught as a compulsory subject in university for instance

Before the recent influx, I had met ONE Polish guy in my whole life, again on a kibbutz in Israel by now in my twenties, he told us what he had to do inorder to "escape",(pretend he was going to Yugoslavia) - you didn't travel, certainly not like we in Western Europe did at the same time and certainly not as much as you do now, that's not your fault, that's Stalin's fault! (not Churchill's incidently) and it was incidently, on that same trip that i met my first Russian, we treated him like some rare exotic specimen, we wer fascinated by this guy from "Russia", saying inane things like , "hello" to him. Unlike you Poland, we wer very familiar with People from other countries, my Best Friend came from Guinea, another best friend parents came from Guyana, we had West Indians, Indians, Pakistanis, 1 Chinese, Italians, Greek, a Turk or 2, an African, (we didn't hav many in those halcyon days), and even some boys from Chile and of course all the sons and daughter's of Irish immigrants including boy George's Brother, Gerald at my schools, I don't think you had that in your school. I lived in London nearly all my life and we hardly ever met people from behind the Iron Curtain, almost absolutely never! i suspect the few that did get to Britain wer the sons and daughters of the privilege Ruling Communist Party Elite, the spoilt Brats of the Communist Aristocracy. We used to feel sorry for you, and worry about you, and prayed one day you would be free! We wer over-joyed with the collapse of the Iron Curtain.
citizen67   
4 Feb 2013
Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

Many people from other communistic (Asian, African) countries studied in Poland

did you hav Black children in your school? your first class? I hav a photo of me in a pram with some Black girls looking at me, 1964. I had foreign neighbours until i was 14, i had everything, Indain then African, then Italian, Indian/finnish and finally Chinese.
citizen67   
4 Feb 2013
Language / Does Polish have a plural of "You"? [51]

Does Polish hav a plural of "You"?

I hav noticed in my life and travels as well as living in England, that English has many flaws, many things missing, for an example, a plural of "You", a gender neutral third person SINGULAR word, What words phrases do you hav in Polish that are a big improvement on English, better than English, would you introduce to English? do you, for example, a plural of "YOU"?
citizen67   
4 Feb 2013
Language / Does Polish have a plural of "You"? [51]

and what's the singular?

is this a formal/informal distinction as in French and some other languages?

Would you like /find it easier if English had a plural of "You"?
citizen67   
4 Feb 2013
Language / Does Polish have a plural of "You"? [51]

In English speaking countries you will notice there is a grasping towards having a plural of "You", usually not accepted as acceptable English, in Ireland you got, following grammatical logic, "Yous" , in the Southern States of American, they hav "Y'all", in cockney London they hav "You Lot". Was you surprised by the lack of a plural in English when you first came across it, people?
citizen67   
5 Feb 2013
Language / Does Polish have a plural of "You"? [51]

Are you English, Lyzko? you seem hav an incredibly intimate knowledge of English to know stuff like that? Yes, you are right there is still the archaic, "Ye", which I hav heard mostly from Irish people, maybe we English should bring it back.
citizen67   
5 Feb 2013
Language / Does Polish have a plural of "You"? [51]

More background info for me:

Are you* Polish people glad you* hav a plural of "You"?

Does it make life easier?

(*straight away it shows the need for a plural of "You", i think)

Ziemowit, you are right they are archaic words, not quite slang more a vernacular of a particular area