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Kevend   
3 Sep 2011
Travel / My trip to Krakow and its ups and downs. [70]

I just came home from Krakow, I spent 5 days there with some friends for a cultural holiday, Visitng the sites of Auchwitz/Birkenau, the Jewish quarter and ghetto, and the salt mines. Generally the city is a very beautiful place, very tidy and we had a good time, Until the last night we were there, myself and a friend of mine left a club and walked past two polish men who were rather large, hassling three polish girls, two of these girls were talking to myself and my friend telling us these two men were trying to take their sister away and she was willing to go, but they didnt want to leave her. So after about 10 minutes they got a bit violent and started to push me, my friend wanted to leave and was worried but I insisted we stayed to see if these girls were okay.

Eventually the two men left with the girl, and the 2 remaining girls were with us wanted to get a drink. We went with them towards some club just generally talking until we met their friends, 6 Polish guys with shaved heads which as first didnt alarm anything, until they spoke. The first words they said being 'We dont like black people'. At this point we realised this was not a good idea, I spoke to the girl and one of them approached me and told me 'You leave now... **** off', my friend grabbed my arm and asked to leave, when a 2nd man approached and pushed me away from the girl, The girl began talking in polish, pushing one of the men away from me, and I then began to walk away.

However I wont hold this 1 night against Krakow, I generally had a nice time, and we met some Polish people who were rather friendly who bought us shots and expressed how they liked speaking to English people as it helped them become better at using it, And we met some Polish men who liked to get drunk and display how they were racist and didnt like us. If I recommend Krakow, I would do so but make a point of saying to avoid going out at night and if you do, to stay very close to your place youre staying at.
Kevend   
3 Sep 2011
Travel / My trip to Krakow and its ups and downs. [70]

It is tidy compared to Liverpool, my home city. And it is a beautiful place culturally, which is what I said. Regardless, the story is true.
Kevend   
3 Sep 2011
Travel / My trip to Krakow and its ups and downs. [70]

Im not black, I didnt say I was black, and I never claimed I was or said so, Thats just what the first thing these random Polish guys said to us.
Kevend   
3 Sep 2011
Travel / My trip to Krakow and its ups and downs. [70]

Well they would, because they did. why would I bother signing up to a random forum for a troll? I came across this forum because I was googling if racism in krakow was a big thing and if they didnt like tourists, And it brought me here. I wrote this because I wanted to know if it was a big thing or not. Denying it never happened is clearly ignorant since it happened to me first-hand. They told us they didnt like black people and were talking about 'black people stealing in london' during the riots, When I explained it was everyone, not just black people looting, they refused and insisted it was blacks only. There was no mistake of language or accent. They said they didnt like black people and they meant they didnt like black people.
Kevend   
3 Sep 2011
Travel / My trip to Krakow and its ups and downs. [70]

I had no intentions to have any fight with anyone, I didnt expect Poland to be country with racism considering everything thats happened there I'd of thought they'd be more tolerable, hence why I was trying to find out online if it was. Not denying the fact the UK has racism when we clearly do, we have the BNP and EDL ect, although I dont agree with them they are still there. I just find it a bit weird that Polish people in Krakow dont like British people or tourists? Yet Polish people flood my country for work.

So you cant read? Seems like the Polish education system is something thats not been repaired unlike Warsaw, You see the word 'black' and decide to ignore everything else written after it then go on a stampede of racist rants.
Kevend   
3 Sep 2011
Travel / My trip to Krakow and its ups and downs. [70]

I wasnt on any stag do or lad's holiday, I went with friends for the purpose to visit Auchwitz and Birkenau. When it comes to learning from mistakes you'd think living in a place where millions of people were mass murdered just because they were different, you would take that in? It put a bit of a depressive feel on the rest of my visit.

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I think I'll leave now I've found my answer. Polish people in their own country are quite happy to have 2 drinks then begin acting 'macho' and chavvish to any foreigner who talks to a polish girl knowing you have a home advantage, while thinking its cool to act like a racist in a country who if the British didnt help, would of been gassed off the face of the planet. Then come to England and feed of the state because your own economy cant even be supported by its own people.

I think I'll avoid any 3rd world country from now on and stick to west Europe.

I may have caught a 'backlash' of the stereotypical 'brit thug' lads holiday but I'd like to think that because I wasnt wailing around the streets of krakow pissed off my head, screaming some football song, I'd be treated politely. Hell, I even defending some Polish girls against some guys who could quite possibly of tried to rape a girl. and thanks I get was to be greeted by some skinheads who told me to **** off and leave, Kind of hypocritical to say Polish natives of krakow hate drunken troublemakers, when ironicly it was the Poles who were looking for trouble.
Kevend   
3 Sep 2011
Travel / My trip to Krakow and its ups and downs. [70]

You can believe what you want. If I was born in Krakow or something similar happened in my country or my city, I'd like to think that I'd become a bit more polite to people and not hate a group of people over their colour.
Kevend   
3 Sep 2011
Travel / My trip to Krakow and its ups and downs. [70]

The story and everything I said at the start was 100% was true and happened to me, but the moment people started saying i was trolling and i was 'making it up' i lost interest in trying to reason with anyone since it became more about if I was black or not, than what had happened. But apparently if a group of Polish skinheads get drunk and try for a fight, its alright since we were English.

You wonder why i gave up reason.
Kevend   
3 Sep 2011
Travel / My trip to Krakow and its ups and downs. [70]

Indeed, i was genuine in wanting to know if this thing was a common event in krakow, since I really enjoyed my stay there, but I dont really wanna go back if i'm gonna end up getting a bottle to the back of my head just for having a black friend with me, or for me speaking English, or for me just having a drink and being assumed Im a 'british tourist whos annoying some Pole'.

And ye, the answers i got about me being black or not then the racist comments didnt exactally make me wanna be polite back.

Maybe I was wrong to get involved but Im not a dick, if a girls in trouble, and im asked to help, I will. Next time i'll just ignore it.