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USA   
4 Aug 2011
Genealogy / Getting records from Poland (are records of Poles moved from churches to the archives)? [21]

Question: Did the Poles move the records from the churches to the archiwums? Or how far back are the records dating I can get from the archiwums? I'm talking about Silesia. Since it used to be Germany, they moved the records from the churches to the city's responsibility in 1874. I was wondering if the Poles moved the records from the pre 1874 area also to the archiwums? I suppose they must have organized it on a national level at some point, so I am hoping I can get an answer to this and that it dosen't depend on each city. I noticed that they msut have moved the records from smaller towns to the next bigger city, or maybe the capital of that particular voivodeship.

katowice.ap.gov.pl/english/databases.htm

I suppose the one in Katowice has all the archives from the small cities listed there. Racibórz etc.

Also, does anybody know if they are computerized? The thing is I do not always have the birth date, but might have the full name etc. But they are obviously not going to go through it manually if I give them the name and a time span when that person must have been born ( the birth certificates only list the parent's name..nothing else ). How else could I find it out? Not at all, unless I have the full names AND birth dates?

Any info is appreciated!
Thank you!
USA   
10 Aug 2011
Genealogy / Getting records from Poland (are records of Poles moved from churches to the archives)? [21]

Hello everybody!

Thank you for the replies. I just got a birth certificate ( 1883 )today. Now, this is where I am running into problems. Of course, there are only the names of the parents listed. I have no other information but the names of the parents. Does anybody know what I do now? Does the archiwum have bastism certificates, too? Or do I have to contact the churches? T

The fees weren't that high. The lowest I paid was 8 zloty. The highest 85.

@TheOther... she said "one needs precise information".
USA   
10 Aug 2011
Genealogy / Getting records from Poland (are records of Poles moved from churches to the archives)? [21]

Hm, I did that once and they told me they could not start the search with more information. I had the name, city, and gave them a 10 year time frame.

It would be hard to find out if was their first child or not. I probably should not focus on trying to find this out. So I can't go this route. But who would have the marriage certificates? Archiwum? I could get the baptism certificate if I knew who has it. That's why I mentioned the church. But I do not know for sure because they moved, apparently, a lot of things into the archiwums. civil registration office... isn't that basically the archiwum? I thought that's where they moved everything.
USA   
14 Aug 2011
Genealogy / Getting records from Poland (are records of Poles moved from churches to the archives)? [21]

That is impossible to find out how many children they had, and who was the first child. I might as well ask them to search a certain time frame. I don't even know how I would find out who the first child was. A lot of people do ancestry research, and they obviously start using information they got from their relatives. Everybody will run into the same problem. You have a birth date of one person, depending on how far back the relatives could remember, then you just have the names of the parents from the birth certificate. There must be an easier way to find this out. I will try the civil registration office. I have not been able to get a hold of the church there anyway. Thanks.
USA   
22 Aug 2011
Genealogy / Getting records from Poland (are records of Poles moved from churches to the archives)? [21]

No, there's nothing there.

The archiwum in Katowice still had the documents from 1859. I'm still waiting on them to come back with the results of the search. I still don't know how I would find out how many children they had, or when they married etc. I don't think it's possible, other than giving them a time frame and tell them to look for whatever documents.