sovereign_man
15 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / Expat Poles swearing allegiance to the US - how did you feel? [157]
I had to register mainly because of this thread, but also because I am interested in learning more about Poland as my mothers side has a lot of polish ties. Unfortunately I do not speak polish nor have I ever visited Poland but some day I would like to.
First I must correct you on land of the free and home of the brave. That is complete bullshit. I am 33 years old and looking for a way to move out of America and possibly renounce my citizenship for a number of reasons.
One, no one in this country is truly free unless you have billions of dollars. I began to take notice of politics a few years ago when at the time president Bush jr saved the failing general motors auto manufacture from certain death by issuing what is commonly known here in America as a "bail out package". Unfortunately that bail out money came from ordinary taxpayers like myself. At that time I was working a 9-6 job where I was paid 19.00/hr. I paid state and federal taxes because it is the law. After Bush bailed out GM I believe he or the next (and current) president obama also bailed out several large banks, the biggest being bank of america. Again another company that was failing at the time, AIG, or american insurance group, was also posting record losses and poised to file bankruptcy but either bush or obama (I cannot remember at the moment) signed a bail out "package" for that company as well. Days or weeks later news broke that that their bail out money was being used by the ceo's to give managers bonuses, some bonuses in the hundreds of thousands to numerous different employees.
It was at this time I quit my job based on that and some other personal reasons with my main reason being that I was not going to go into work everyday, bust my butt so that my tax money could be used to save irresponsible companies from failing and reward incompetent employees. GM should have failed, in my opinion, just liek any small business that fails for one reason or another.
Another serious issue that America is having right now is illegal immigration. I do believe that in part our economy is in such poor condition because we have millions of illegal aliens living in America and using services that they do not pay for, services that are reserved for tax paying citizens. Services such as police, fire, libraries, roads, trash pick up, education, the legal system and other things. Anyone who works in the education system knows that American education is ranked something like 25th in the world, with finland and korea being ranked first, if I recall correctly.
The major problem with the illegal immigration is that elected officials such as congressmen are using these people to remain in power, or in other words, keep their seat. Basically its a trade off, the illegal immigration population's family members who are citizens will vote for congressmen who shoot down any type of border enforcement or any other people or programs that want to strip special services from illegal immigrants. Congressmen were elected by US citizens yet they betray us every chance they get. Many are extremely corrupt and some don't pay taxes yet they get away with it. Whereas if I did not pay taxes I would be thrown in jail.
Another problem is the US government has gotten way too big and they are abusing their power. They have always abused their power, governments, but the US feds are way out of control and many Americans are waking up to this and are very angry. Thus the US government is doing everything they can to keep citizens in the dark and continue to use us for their own satisfaction.
As you may know we still have American troops in Afghanistan. Many Americans, including myself, do not approve of this. From my understanding Bush jr originally sent troops there to find osama bin laden after he attacked us on sept 11th 2001 in which he had instructed members of his group to fly commercial aircraft into several different significant buildings here in America. It has been nine years now and we still do not have osama bin laden in custody. We had our chance to get him and Bush declined to the terms presented to him by osama's associates. Many Americans are not as stupid as the government thinks and we know they purposely kept the war going because it makes the military industrial complex money.
You may know that America also has bases and troops in various other regions of the world and I do believe that this is why so many people around the globe dislike Americans. I don't blame them but please try not to lump us all together as war-mongering arrogant ********.
If you are considering coming to America I suggest you do it legally. Fill out the paperwork required and wait your turn in line. Many Americans do not like illegal immigrants because they are a burden on us financially. Our main problem is the southern border and our elected officials responsible for border security have been ignoring citizens cries to secure it. Mexico is currently engulfed in a war with drug cartels and the violence is spilling over into America. Yesterday a border agent was killed from a gun battle with illegal bandits about ten miles north of the border on US land. Months ago a US couple was jet skiing on a lake off of Texas and the husband was shot and killed by mexican nationals believed to be drug cartel. Last year a man who had a ranch on the border was shot and killed by a suspected illegal who was tresspassing on his property. It seems the violence from mexico keeps getting worse everyday and not much is done about it.
Make no mistake, if you are an American citizen you are not free, in fact you are a slave to the rich and to the illegals and poor that are draining social and welfare services paid for by "middle class". In ten years I fear America will be just like Mexico or the old USSR.
Brave? There are few brave people here in America and the ones such as myself who speak out against our elected officials are deemed traitors by our government. Most of the citizens in this country are what people like myself like to call "sheeple". A group of people nothing more than zombie-like lambs who stare at the television and believe whatever they are told.
Our unemployment rate is also something like 10% right now, but the mainstream news outlets, many times referred to as mainstream media or MSM, will not tell you the truth, about anything really unless it helps their agenda and keeps American citizens in the dark.
I urge you to think twice about coming here and swearing alleigence to this country as it is as corrupt as it has ever been and the government really does not care about you unless you plan to join the armed services and fight for their narrow-minded agenda. Do not help make it worse. If a one world government scares you then I suggest you do your homework before trying to come here and expecting some sort of better treatment than what you have there in Poland as you will be in for a rude awakening.
In closing, America is NOT holding up a banner of freedom around the globe, instead they are trying to take over every country they can in their quest for a "new world order" and one currency. Americans leaders are nothing more than organized crime communists ripe with arrogance and with access to too much money and power.
I had to register mainly because of this thread, but also because I am interested in learning more about Poland as my mothers side has a lot of polish ties. Unfortunately I do not speak polish nor have I ever visited Poland but some day I would like to.
First I must correct you on land of the free and home of the brave. That is complete bullshit. I am 33 years old and looking for a way to move out of America and possibly renounce my citizenship for a number of reasons.
One, no one in this country is truly free unless you have billions of dollars. I began to take notice of politics a few years ago when at the time president Bush jr saved the failing general motors auto manufacture from certain death by issuing what is commonly known here in America as a "bail out package". Unfortunately that bail out money came from ordinary taxpayers like myself. At that time I was working a 9-6 job where I was paid 19.00/hr. I paid state and federal taxes because it is the law. After Bush bailed out GM I believe he or the next (and current) president obama also bailed out several large banks, the biggest being bank of america. Again another company that was failing at the time, AIG, or american insurance group, was also posting record losses and poised to file bankruptcy but either bush or obama (I cannot remember at the moment) signed a bail out "package" for that company as well. Days or weeks later news broke that that their bail out money was being used by the ceo's to give managers bonuses, some bonuses in the hundreds of thousands to numerous different employees.
It was at this time I quit my job based on that and some other personal reasons with my main reason being that I was not going to go into work everyday, bust my butt so that my tax money could be used to save irresponsible companies from failing and reward incompetent employees. GM should have failed, in my opinion, just liek any small business that fails for one reason or another.
Another serious issue that America is having right now is illegal immigration. I do believe that in part our economy is in such poor condition because we have millions of illegal aliens living in America and using services that they do not pay for, services that are reserved for tax paying citizens. Services such as police, fire, libraries, roads, trash pick up, education, the legal system and other things. Anyone who works in the education system knows that American education is ranked something like 25th in the world, with finland and korea being ranked first, if I recall correctly.
The major problem with the illegal immigration is that elected officials such as congressmen are using these people to remain in power, or in other words, keep their seat. Basically its a trade off, the illegal immigration population's family members who are citizens will vote for congressmen who shoot down any type of border enforcement or any other people or programs that want to strip special services from illegal immigrants. Congressmen were elected by US citizens yet they betray us every chance they get. Many are extremely corrupt and some don't pay taxes yet they get away with it. Whereas if I did not pay taxes I would be thrown in jail.
Another problem is the US government has gotten way too big and they are abusing their power. They have always abused their power, governments, but the US feds are way out of control and many Americans are waking up to this and are very angry. Thus the US government is doing everything they can to keep citizens in the dark and continue to use us for their own satisfaction.
As you may know we still have American troops in Afghanistan. Many Americans, including myself, do not approve of this. From my understanding Bush jr originally sent troops there to find osama bin laden after he attacked us on sept 11th 2001 in which he had instructed members of his group to fly commercial aircraft into several different significant buildings here in America. It has been nine years now and we still do not have osama bin laden in custody. We had our chance to get him and Bush declined to the terms presented to him by osama's associates. Many Americans are not as stupid as the government thinks and we know they purposely kept the war going because it makes the military industrial complex money.
You may know that America also has bases and troops in various other regions of the world and I do believe that this is why so many people around the globe dislike Americans. I don't blame them but please try not to lump us all together as war-mongering arrogant ********.
If you are considering coming to America I suggest you do it legally. Fill out the paperwork required and wait your turn in line. Many Americans do not like illegal immigrants because they are a burden on us financially. Our main problem is the southern border and our elected officials responsible for border security have been ignoring citizens cries to secure it. Mexico is currently engulfed in a war with drug cartels and the violence is spilling over into America. Yesterday a border agent was killed from a gun battle with illegal bandits about ten miles north of the border on US land. Months ago a US couple was jet skiing on a lake off of Texas and the husband was shot and killed by mexican nationals believed to be drug cartel. Last year a man who had a ranch on the border was shot and killed by a suspected illegal who was tresspassing on his property. It seems the violence from mexico keeps getting worse everyday and not much is done about it.
Make no mistake, if you are an American citizen you are not free, in fact you are a slave to the rich and to the illegals and poor that are draining social and welfare services paid for by "middle class". In ten years I fear America will be just like Mexico or the old USSR.
Brave? There are few brave people here in America and the ones such as myself who speak out against our elected officials are deemed traitors by our government. Most of the citizens in this country are what people like myself like to call "sheeple". A group of people nothing more than zombie-like lambs who stare at the television and believe whatever they are told.
Our unemployment rate is also something like 10% right now, but the mainstream news outlets, many times referred to as mainstream media or MSM, will not tell you the truth, about anything really unless it helps their agenda and keeps American citizens in the dark.
I urge you to think twice about coming here and swearing alleigence to this country as it is as corrupt as it has ever been and the government really does not care about you unless you plan to join the armed services and fight for their narrow-minded agenda. Do not help make it worse. If a one world government scares you then I suggest you do your homework before trying to come here and expecting some sort of better treatment than what you have there in Poland as you will be in for a rude awakening.
In closing, America is NOT holding up a banner of freedom around the globe, instead they are trying to take over every country they can in their quest for a "new world order" and one currency. Americans leaders are nothing more than organized crime communists ripe with arrogance and with access to too much money and power.