USA, Canada / Expat Poles swearing allegiance to the US - how did you feel? [157]

people like havok and trewer are stupid. It is so obvious that they are blind to what America really stands for today. If not then in in that case too, they deserve zero respect for being slaves and even eager servants to the corporate and corrupt government of america. This kind of attitude and behaviour demonstrates this. Are they at all Polish, as I know no Pole thinks this way.

Life / 2 months to go - I will be a Polish citizen and try to find a better place to raise my kid. [67]

This parasite claims we are a waste of time, yet keeps on replying. He is the real loser here. He does not deserve citizenship or his Polish wife. Hope he goes to a better place via suicide. Sounds depressed and resentful enough. I say stop feeding the suicide case so he can stop wallowing in self pity and either leave Poland or kill himself already.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

Relax, its been a few minutes. No I do not know where yet. A few jobs is nice but think of the big picture.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

As I said think of the bigger picture. International relations and foreign policy. Some jobs being created is not all important. Interesting story :

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Frankfurt-airport-attack-a-jihadi-act-says-Germany/articleshow/7624611.cms

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

Who has said anything about worrying about the Russians!? What about terrorists/islamists/jihadists or whatever you want to call them. The US has many enemies, is on the decline, far away from Poland psychically, culturally and in just about every other way. Why make such a close relationship with them, not others? Interesting to see Americans supporting this, but as I said, what about the people. Sikorski is not the people. You ought to know that politicians never wholly represent the people, do not be naive.

Skysoulmate: what are you accusing me of? Nice of you to reconfirm that you fight wars and kill people for the oil corporations though. If you think that I only say this on the internet you are wrong. Truth is truth.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

Delph has a good point, when it gets right down to it, the US just doesnt care when it is even in the slightest inconvenience for them, what a healthy relationship. Poland may be on some black list as you say, but much less so than almost any other NATO country. This can only make it much worse.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]


We should be pursuing closer ties with the rest of Europe, not the US which is so far away and does not care.


It is not appeasement if one does not want to even go down that path.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

Tell me how they care. When they shamefully backed out of their missile defense agreement. Gave us FAKE equipment? A lot of care.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

We have not had a single attack or even threat. I see your point though, and I said before we should be concentrating on ties, but with those closer to us. Poland does not need this base, and we have seen how the US treats our agreements. Even closer ties with Germany would be preferable.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]


It took them long enough to even do this small thing which according to your article is going to be in 2018. Who know what other "problems" they will run into before then. Even that is besides the point. Poland does not need this. Missile defense from what? Who is going to bomb Poland? Im sure US has these systems to protect itself, as well as other European countries.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

Why China?

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

But why would China be a threat at all, especially to Poland. China as a power is more favorable to the world then the US. China even when strong has never involved itself in the type of physical and political empire building in all its history. I dont see how this country could be a threat. Tiny US bases in Poland would not help even if there was a threat. Maybe Germany has to worry, but about what? Economic competition? The US yes, a threat to its empire.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]


Since you know Mandarin would you like to explain.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

That does not explain why china is a problem, and Poland should come closer with the US.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

China is moving away from that style of government. Slowly but surely. What makes you think that they would build an empire here and impose that rule over the world? A little far fetched. And I thought we agreed that the move with the US is not a good idea.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]


Thats most probably correct.


This is a big part of why the US base is not a good idea


Without sucking up to the US on every chance.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

More or less. But it would be preferable to keep it at a distance, ie short of actually hosting bases. Build European bases where European armies are hosted.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

Why suck up to anyone at all, especially the US. You cannot say Poland will get anything out of it. Maybe eventually in the distant future. You are saying that the alternative is to suck up to Russia? why? Closer ties with the rest of Europe and building up Polands own military will suffice.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]


Thats why it needs to be built up!

Not just ties with Germany but whole of Europe.


Is this a joke?

Anyhow what exactly did Germany and South Korea get out of it?

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

So Sky and Guesswho, how would this base be positive for Poland at all?

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

I am waiting for them to tell me why the air base in Poland is a good idea, let alone the whole partnership.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]


How is that good? Insignificant.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

Sure thats a good point. But the international standing that Poland will be left in after this close relationship will not be good. On the whole its probably not the best idea, or the best way to go about it.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

Sky you have some very good points in your long post there. I just think that Europe should replace the US in those roles, for reasons I have already stated. That and what Marek was saying that Poland would just be obligated to serve the United States upon request in any future conflict. We dont need the US just Europe.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]


That is why we need to have closer ties. Not just one way, Poland to Europe, but back and forth if you know what I mean. The US can remain a partner, but why promote publicly such ties with the number one target for these terrorists.


Right.
USA has never been isolationist, not even before world war 1. People may think so, but even back then they have been constantly invading nations in south and latin america.[quote=Dande]I wouldn't say there is as "strong" isolationist movement in the US

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]


LOL

Cannot believe I actually have to explain this to some people. The point of the above is question the quoted commentator on why he holds this view and in extension why Poland needs a so called boost from the US. I guess some people are just that dense. My comment is in line with the thread, and I was not insulting anyone.

History / What nation do Poles feel closer to? [74]


But then Poland gets the presidency right after :)

History / Life in Partitioned Poland (Specifically in the Prussian Partition) [118]

dismantled Polish state was high due to racial discrimination and unemployment on traditionally Polish lands

Thats a quote from Bratwurst Boy quoting a source in another thread. While Prussia may not have been as bad as the Russian partition, it was still not a wonderful place. Dont say there was no discrimination or persecution.

On a side note I seem to be finding that the Austrian partition was the best for Poles.

History / Life in Partitioned Poland (Specifically in the Prussian Partition) [118]


What are you saying here?

Also I was just saying that the Austrian partition was the the most liberal, not good.