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brietter   
18 Jun 2010
News / Unbelievable but, its truth. Poland is finally happy to share border with Russia [57]

Hello everyone, i've been observing this forum for a few days, and i'm glad to join the community!

Crow

Let be what can not be! Let Slavija live, Slavija eterna! Slava!

only Slavija is important, rest is just fiction

I must sadden you Crow, but we Poles aren't very attracted to the idea of slavism, sarmatism etc. Of course, we are proud of our past and ancestry but from what i'd observed, my fellow countrymen generally don't give a sh*t about other slavic countries, with exception for Czechs and Slovaks. Perhaps it will suprise you that most of the people in this country are not very fond of the idea of Pan-Slavism, especially when Russia is involved. Why? In my opinion - because we value very much our freedom, it's much more dearer to us than daydreams of losers.

Personally I would be much more happy if Visegrad Group transformed into something economically independent, so we could quit the EU and team with neighbours we like and might trust. But that's not likely to happen, and similarly, the world will never see one united Slavic country (and thanks God for that!). So... maybe move on and put an emphasis on things you actually can change?

I have a feeling that Poland would have liked it better to share a border with UK

Having a soft spot for most of Britons, and generally speaking, being an anglophile, i couldn't agree more :) Altough this general mutual liking is due to fact that we are NOT bordering upon each other i'm afraid ;)

brietter (sorry for any grammatical or stylistic errors which i, most likely, made)
brietter   
18 Jun 2010
News / Unbelievable but, its truth. Poland is finally happy to share border with Russia [57]

even that Visegrad is of Serbian origin

The whole concept of Poland is of Serbian origin, and Poles themselves are descendants of Serbs in a straight line.

And seriously, maybe it was founded by Serbs but now it's completely irrevelant.

Torq:
We ARE stubborn and that's exactly why we will always keep our culture and identity.

but, let`s not (all of us) sacrifice Slavija in the name of our own pride

What Slavija? You still don't understand, do you? It's long gone here. As for Poles, we are much more closer mentally to the western Europe than the eastern. Besides, I will never fraternise with deceitful Russia or these savages Ukrainians and Lithuanians, who can't stand us because of their inferiority complex towards us. The Stepan Bandera stadium is not only incident. Not long time ago they claimed Copernicus was Ukrainian. It was funny, but on the other hand, embarassing. Because only losers do such things. Losers without their own history.

It`s about the fact that Russia still traets Poland like her property

Exactly. Tsar Alexander once said: Kurica nie ptica, Polsza nie zagranica (Sorry, i can't write in non-latin alphabet). That mentality is still present there, and with Putin saying that dissolution of the SU was the biggest tragedy of the XX century - it's at its best. That's why we should be very careful with Russians - of course i mean politics, not common people (i do not know Russians, but don't have any prejudice against them).
brietter   
18 Jun 2010
News / Unbelievable but, its truth. Poland is finally happy to share border with Russia [57]

So what are you eventually trying to say?

Well i'm trying to say that during the times of USSR Poland, alongside with other countries of the so-called "Eastern block" has no sovereignity. Putin seem to miss that good ol' days, isn't he?

And think about it.. of the XX century. So both world wars were not as tragic.
And USSR which killed milions of people indeed must have been good, if the dissolution of it was the biggest tragedy.
brietter   
18 Jun 2010
News / Unbelievable but, its truth. Poland is finally happy to share border with Russia [57]

Sorry... but I only noticed that you can't stand them for your superiority complex. :).

Not for my superiority complex, rather for their ingrattitude. I used "savages" to describe my anger.

Ironically you're gonna be looked down on by those who you "feel closer to". :) That's your choice though...

We don't feel closer, we are. We are talking about centuries of influx of western values since maedieval times, such as Roman law, knights ethics, the whole monarchy and other things that formed Europe culturally. As for looking down... well, things could be different if not invention called the Soviet Union..

Sorry, he doesn't really seem to care too much about Poland.

Of course he doesnt! He just want to have the big empire again.

Do you seriously believe in that putin miss ethic cleansing/purges?

You have said that - I think he's just ruthless. But what can you expect from an ex-KGB agent?

Can you clearly see the result of the USSR collapse? I can't even though I live in Russia...

If you admit that even you can't, how could I? I see your point but generally I don't understand people who miss USSR.. That was an inhumane system.