News / Poland's Organized Crime [58]

Hi... jumping in and possibly diluting this subject a little, but is Poland a 'safe' place generally to visit? I read recently there's a lot of car crime. We visited Barcelona recently and the list of things to be wary of went on and on (and ultimately the trip passed without incident)! But I've not seen any 'do's and don't's' lists for Poland.

steve

News / Poland's Organized Crime [58]

Thanks, 1jola.

I see my question has also been answered elsewhere recently on the boards, so apologies for repeating that.

My defence is I'm a newbie :-)

steve

Language / Collection of learning resources for learning the Polish language [129]

I'm not sure if this link has been posted elsewhere on the site, but I thought it worth including for those of us learning the language alone...wwitv.com/television/168.htm

steve

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

Hi Frd... I know what you mean. The forums say only files of 100K can be uploaded. What I'll do is put a higher definition version on the web and link to it. Then, hopefully people will be kind enough to click through.

I'll have to do that tonight at home.

Thanks for your input...

steve

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

Wow! Then it might really be gold! Can you glean anything about where and when or anything else of interest? Or do we need the higher resolution version as indicated above?

Thanks for your help

steve

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

Thanks again...

We believe he was born in Tarnowce, near Przemyśl, right on the Ukrainian border in Feb 1918. The name he used was Michalczyk. Having that confirmed and learning parents' names if they can be deciphered etc means I'll be drunk for a week! :-)

steve

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

You guys are the best! Thank you so much...

Is there any mention of his mother?

steve

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

Fascinating responses all of them - thank you all so much.

Here's the bigger file on my website if anyone would like to view it as a bigger picture.

It's about 450K, so if you have a slow connection it might take some time!

I think apart from obviously assisting me it's worth looking at to see just what one of these things actually looks like. Hopefully that will inspire those of us searching here to keep going...

Again, thanks for the help, and if anybody can add anything else that will be great.

steve

Edit: Oddly enough, if I click the link directly the picture is small, but when I copy and paste the URL into the URL window the picture is large. Something to do with the forums set up perhaps?


I'm definitely going to include that information in the 'Polish roots project', so thank you.

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]


I shall take care of it. Possibly, seeing as it sounds of historical value, it might find its way into a Polish museum at some point. I did read not so long back that the German/Russian front was drawn up along the run of the river at Przemyśl, so it doesn't surprise me the territory was somewhat fluid (in fact, I found my father-in-law's UK registration document along with the certificate, and in that he describes his nationality as 'uncertain'. I assumed this was because he was largely illiterate, but now I'm wondering if it was more a case of the borders changing around him and as you say there not in effect being a Poland he could belong to until 1918). This is really fascinating stuff to me. I've not played the U-tube above yet, but I'll do so and try to research events more.

The project is a surprise birthday present for my wife, and in it I want to give her more than a family tree but also a 'feel' for what her family grew up with. Her father, when he was alive, would say nothing of his upbringing (a trait I've heard many Polish/English descendants bemoan). Possibly it's testament to the horrors and hardships endured. The wife's UK side is hard enough, but the Polish side is taking a good deal more work. The culmination will be a surprise trip to Poland in the autumn. So, a good day yesterday - what I thought might be of a little information has turned out to be a major find.

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

That's interesting, so thanks for that. Several posts above, McCoy says:


And...


I like Constantine from an off-the-cuff comment made to me by a family member recently suggesting Constantine or Konstantego as a possible name for the father. I'm not sure, though, if Konstantego is a real name even.

The name of mother I'd no idea whatsoever (and now I've two names :-)

Thanks so much for looking at this....

Does anyone else have ideas about the mother's names?

cheers

steve

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

Hee... light blue touch paper... stand back...

It's been an interesting discussion, though...

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

Thanks... we were planning late October, but now I'm wondering if we really should go earlier. Will I need my own snow plough?

Is it definitely Tyszowce? He has a half sister, and we're pretty sure she was born in Tarnawce, near Przemyśl, so we assumed Iwan would be from there also. Of course, he's older than this sister, so it's quite possible the family moved from Tyszowce after Iwan was born. It's important to me as I would like to visit Iwan's birth place.

Thanks again for your help...

steve

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

Once again I'm overwhelmed by how helpful you all are.

Of course, if I find after 17 weeks of Polish lessons I now must start afresh with Russian (or Ukrainian), then I'm the one wibbling incoherently in the corner :-)

Seriously, I guess I'm committed to learning Polish now, and if it turns out I'm going to the Ukraine I'm just going to have to talk Polish at them :-)

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

Sasha, there is a town called Śliwnica about 20km or so from Przemyśl... is it possible your Slivnici is the same place?

steve

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]


Wow, and one of those is a mere 2km from Tarnawce.

I've just found out I'm to be sent Iwan's half-sister's certificate (from the USA). Do you think I'll be pushing my luck if I ask you guys to look at that too when it comes?

steve

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

Certainly the Wiki Ukrainian spelling Сливниця is very close to that on the certificate stamp (differing only that the last letter is a 'backward R' rather than an i on the stamp).

Thanks again, all, for your continued efforts...

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

Of course. That seems obvious now you point that out. It seems almost the hardest thing even in my own Polish language studies to get my head around the idea that with the declensions words that appear different are really one and the same. And it's been told to me several times but it needs banging home! I suppose I'm not the first to struggle with that idea.

I will delve further into the Greek Catholic church thing as you suggest.

Again, thanks.

steve

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

Thanks, Sasha, I think we're closing in on it... all suggestions are certainly within the same general area.

I think strzyga's suggestion of trying to locate the church parish to confirm which town it is is probably the way forward now...

Food / Mother of all hangovers....Polish Beer! [71]

You can get -ywiec in Asda in the UK these days. I must admit I rather like the stuff...

Language / Pimsleur's Polish Lessons [38]


Is there a level 2 and 3 Pimsleur Polish? I've only ever seen the level 1 advertised, with 30 lessons...

Food / How to cook Frozen pierogi? Boil or Fry? [90]

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food preparation - Frozen Cheese Pierogi

Hi all... we wanted to try some Polish food, so I bought some from the local Polish shop. But, running the cooking instructions through Google Translate brings up nonsense. So, anyone care to tell me how to prepare these frozen cheese pierogis (spelling?)? What on earth is a 2-3-1?

Google says:

"move the contents of bag in a frozen state to a 2-3-1 boiling, salted water. after falling to the bottom, stir gently spoon the reverse side. after departure pierona simmer for approx. Serve with smletanka"

Thanks...

steve

Food / How to cook Frozen pierogi? Boil or Fry? [90]

Do I need to get some of those 'boil in the bag' type bags? I simmered them directly in the water, but they came out quite soggy looking - is that right, is that the texture they should have? I always thought they were kind of crispy.

steve

Food / How to cook Frozen pierogi? Boil or Fry? [90]

Well, we braved them, and I'm still here :-) As they cooled they went less soggy.

Are they eaten as a kind of side order to a meat dish or something?

Food / How to cook Frozen pierogi? Boil or Fry? [90]


That would explain it... we had them in America a long, long time ago when we visited a Polish Aunt over there, and I think they were fried (with some sort of mince inside)...

Food / How to cook Frozen pierogi? Boil or Fry? [90]


Oh, that's so obvious now you point it out - thanks.

Thanks, everyone, I'm off to enjoy my food... :-)

Food / How to cook Frozen pierogi? Boil or Fry? [90]


It's the unfilled ones I had, which made me think they had to go with something.

What do the filled ones come with as fillings?

Travel / Bus travel Krakow to Przemysl [5]

Sounds like good advice... thanks to you both...

steve