News / Poland's fight against paedophilia [277]

There is a difference, medically, between those who have sexual preferences to pre-pubescent and post-pubescents.

Pedophilia is a sexual preference towards pre-pubescent males or females.

Ephebophilia is a sexual preference towards mid to late pubescent males or females.

Hebephelia refers to sexual preferences towards pubescent males or females.

They may or may not be deemed sexual offences, depending on the laws of the country the act is committed.

For example, if Polanski went to Afghanistan (leaving aside whether they have an extradition treaty or not) lawmakers may say, "Hey Roman, how come you like them so old?"

California state law mandates treatment for first-time sex offenders of victims under 13.

Does this mean that Polanski under Californian State law (he committed the offence in LA) have chemical castration treatment applied to him for an offence committed 31 years ago?

In Spain the age of consent is 13, but I think this only applies to those who are no older than 16. What is the specific situation in Poland if a 16/17 year old is having consensual sex with his 15 year old girlfriend and her parents, as her legal guardians, either pressure her to bring charges against him or accuse him of rape (can they bring charges against him for violating their daughter?)?

There is some fierce shite being muttered here on this thread. Burning pedos at the stake, for example. This what leads to paediatricians being attacked by ignorant fuckheads whop mistake them with pedophiles. Have a look at this nightmare scenario where a doctor was forced from her home because of attacks by dumb thugs.

It is largely accepted by the medical profession that sexual disorders (they are not diseases) are not curable but are treatable. The degrees of success vary of course. The film 'The Woodsman' is an interesting take on a pedophile trying to curb his urges after being released from jail.

Maybe open plan prisons are the long term humane way of dealing with those who have served their time. I don't like the idea of doubly punishing someone but the rights of children in any community have to come first over the rights of a convicted pedophile or ephebophile.

It also appears to me that religious communities have a big role to play in sheltering society from pedophiles. In one religious community I know of in Dublin, a pedo priest who settled out of court with the victim's family was not kicked out of the religious congregation. Instead, it was agreed between the community, the police and the religious congregation that he can not leave the confines of the community alone and cannot spend time with any children alone within the confines of the community. So when church is on he doesn't go to the public mass but rather to the mass with other priests, etc.

Horse manure talk like blaming priests as being more pedophilic than other professions is not constructive and not backed up by hard facts. In Ireland research showed that about 3% of those who had committed sexuial offences against minors were in the religious profession.

Chopping dicks off will hardly work. Ever hear of a strap-on or a finger? Behavioural changes through well-established court-police-medical support programmes and trying to completely limit the chances of convicted pedophiles ever having contact with kids are the only way to somehow solve this problem. It is in all our interest to not drive pedos (convicted or otherwise) underground but rather acknowledge the fact that society at large needs to help (if we can put our knives and *********** boots away for a minute) in supporting novel programmes by sexperts and others in limiting their urges and preventing them from harming kids.

News / Poland's fight against paedophilia [277]

szkotja2007

I was interested in the answer to your question before you asked but didn't have time to research it. I guess it depends on what period we are talking about. There were about 50,000 people who had religious vows in Ireland in the 50's. I think the vast majority of documented abuse occured between the 50's and early 80's although there was also some brutal cases in the 90's.

This is a pretty comprehensive report of sexual abuse in Ireland. It claims that 1.7% of sexual abuse perpetrators in Ireland are religious ministers (I guess that means either priest, deacon, seminarian, nun or religious brother, etc.). The research was conducted in 2001 amongst over 3,000 victims.

The population of Ireland in '56 was about 2.8mn so I think those in religious profession were 2% of the population. As regards the profession breakdown of sexual abusers in the 50's in Ireland I really don't know whether stats are available there.

Certainly those in religious ministry have had/do have great opportunities to act on their sexual disorder impulses. I always felt that the very early religious formation of boys and girls through single sex schools (widespread in Ireland up to the 90's)and primary school/ junior high schools that were like junior seminaries/nunneries helped stunt 'normal' sexual development and interests.

The prevalence of Irish surnames in pedophile cases amongst priests formed in Ireland but ministering in the U.S. has noticeable, but maybe it has more to do with the mass production of priests formed in Ireland in the 40's-70's.

At the moment I think there are at least 7000 in the religious profession but I couldn't up to date statistics on the numbers. Anyhow, maybe we've strayed from the topic of the thread. Any reports done on sexual abuse in Poland and can people provide the links here. Thanks.

News / Poland's fight against paedophilia [277]

Easy access to children, trust of the parents and community, heading away on camps, etc. make kids particularly vulnerable to predatory priests. Babysitters were the biggest proportionate offenders from the research I cited above.

The population of the Rep. of Ireland is 4.2mn and 3.6mn are Catholics, that's what I'm referring to. I just read that there in 2006 there were 5,100 priests in Ireland. I don't think you are thinking into consideration the rapid decline in numbers of those in the religious profession since the 90's and it was the 60's-80's that most of the abuse occurred when there were maybe 30,000 religious. The 2009 Ryan report on child abuse in church run institutions. It found that over 35 years there were 800 (lay and religious) abusers in 200 Catholic institutions. This was not all acs of pedophilia but included a vast array of emotional, physical and sexual abuse of pre and post-pubescents, girls and boys, by lay and religious teachers.

How many people are doing time in Poland for pedophilia crimes?

Food / Alcohol Prices for Wedding in Warsaw - Advice needed [19]

My Irish cousin got married in Wroclaw a few years ago. 80 Irish, 40 Poles attended. He got 3 kegs of beer of Okocim (personally I think it's pisswater) and my family are sows for the beer. They had enough even for a small boat party the next day. He also bought a **** load of spirits which hardly anyone drank. When the Irish got pissed they just made some vodka, barcadi and coke so he ended up with a huge amount left over. I'm getting married in July also in Warsaw and was wondering the same about cheap sources of alcohol. Lots of people told me though that the wholesale prices are not that different to the big retailer prices. I guess it adds up if your buying lots. Maybe you should try the Konstancin brewery (non-pasteurised beer) as it's near Warsaw and I hear it's savage. Ciechan is a great quality beer too. 150 from Ireland, jaysus, that's some crew. If you're bringing an Irish musician make sure his backing tracks match whatever system your sala na wesele has. My cousin had this problem.

Work / TEFL Jobs in Poland - your success story? [16]

I did a phone interview some years ago and replaced a drunken, brawling Irish teacher who got the boot. I drink and brawl less so they like me:-)

At the moment I'm in a dilemma cause I just have Umowa o Dzieło but take home 3,500 netto (in addition I get 500 cash benefit for renting my own place, basic private medical cover, ZUS pd. monthly - 172 zł). So it works out 4,000 net + basic public and private med. care for theoretically (28*45min lesson units per week). This is from the start of Oct. to the end of June. There is of course lots of additional stuff (unpaid) that goes with teaching in a school - reports, homework, class prep., meetings.

Umowa o pracę (unless you are a Centre manager usually) is out of the question, as is Zlecenie. (By the way, is there any English website with detailed outlines of what the various umowa's actually mean in practical terms?). Mowię i rozumiem po polsku w ogóle ale ZUS, umowy, to jest coś zupełnie innego (I understand and speak Polish gemerally but when it comes to the nuances of contracts, that's something entirely different). So are there really many more benefits for me to set up 'działalność gospadarczy' (setting yoursef up as a self-employed entity).

As regards the latter, I would make about 5,200 brutto monthly with the same school if I worked for myself (under dz. gosp.) But how much, realistically speaking, does a teacher end up at the end of the month from this. Accountant seems to be 150 zl. a month. Zus for the first 2 years is exactly what (my employer said 290zł). Given that he was pushing me in this direction I figured it was bad for me. Is there any foreign language teacher out there who has umowa o pracę??

And to those of you who have set yourselves up as a separate teaching 'company', how much and what can you put down in costs per month. Details would be appreciated and useful I think to many teachers who read these threads.

Thanks. I've added the above cause I've often lacked a lear run down from other teachers of what it is exactly they are getting from their employer. Hence, collective bargaining is virtually impossible and those who work in the private language school sector never end up getting the contract they deserve.