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Ksysia   
19 Aug 2009
Genealogy / Surname: Krowiorz from Trembatschau (Trebaczow) / Sikora (Schikora?) [33]

Trembatchau is today Trębaczów, next to Oleśnica, next to Wrocław. The name means the trumpet village.

You can find relations through verwandt.de or the Polish moikrewni.pl, this service will show you the spread of yout last names in European countries.

Sikora and Krowiorz are both Silesian names

If you read German, check this forum out: gross-wartenberg.de/forum/showthread.php?tid=13
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

When I was leaving for the UK I thought that they were normal people, a little similar to us, and generally polite. Now after 3 years I see that they in fact believe in racial issues, white supremacy, corporal punishment, tiered society and all other things that make up a fascist or a Nazi. No offence intended - just facts.

The things that they tell me straight in my face are just astounding:
-you Poles are a nation of slaves.
-you Poles are a little white, because you were controlled by Sweden and you got mixed.
-they are just Polish.
-you are Eastern European, so you should be on 16k max, you know...
-have you noticed how it's all controlled by Jews?
-Poles should be punished.
-******* Polish girl!

Those are just from my personal experience, and as I mentioned, I don't look very Polish. Imagine what happens to people who look African? My friend from last work, Damola, wanted to transfer her bank manager job to Britain. She came, and found that all the work she can get was cleaning. She ran out of money and eventually took it. She was cleaning in a bank, and all the high school drop-outs who worked in customer service where laughing heartily - 'even their bank managers wash our floors'.

That's why I don't work for any Briton. I have a small business. My friend 'Sandra' from Shanghai have tried working for them, too, and quit, too. She bought a house to live as a landlord, because she just couldn't stand the everyday attitude.

I am sure that the most popular answer under this thread will be: 'so get the f*** out'. Why? Because first, you need people to work in your big economy, then when they come, you tell them you don't need them, try to pay them less than minimum, and tell everyday that having taken the offer was some kind of a fault, a stupidity.

And that just may be true, judging from the 'guarantees' of Britain.

On the other hand - if spoken to directly the Brits are straightforward. And if one meets a genuinely nice person, they are usually so nice that one wants to shove them in the bushes and make sweet love to them.

Do they have split personalities?
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

SeanBM

I would agree with you wholeheartedly - if it were true. But the thing is that with poor working Britons we get along fine. We grab a pint, call them mates, and make friends. The problem starts when there are unemployment inheritants on one side, and poor middle class on another. Poor middle class is capable of absolutely everything.

Today I got thrown out of a bank for example, by a bank manager, who suggested that I should close my accounts, and she will not have the time to meet me at 2 (but it was at 4!), ok, she will not have the time to meet me at 3 (but it was at 4!) no time at 3!
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

mark - of course it's not the full picture. this can only be the picture that I'm able to give. and in my eyes the English are not as perfect as they like to paint themselves.

you are not there yet - not yet. For now the local radio only airs comments like ' I think that all of them should do community service, like sweeping the streets'. As it was not enough that I don't get the average pay.

I don't fully understand why, was it because you are Polish?

I think so - not directly racist, but she knows that Polans will not go to courts over some petty rude person's behaviours. So she was free to suggest to me that I'm not welcome. Or we can say that she was condescending because all our money are in a mutual account in a different bank, so she was allowed to be rude to poor people?

That might be an explanation - the English only respect force and money. If she believes I am a poor immigrant, she felt free to be as she pleased. And racism is just a dull explanation.
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

Don't be so stupid

another credit to the nation

you could never take someone to court

I could. If she's not comfortable with serving me, there is probably a problem.

extremely racist

because we call the Enlglish Angole? That's anger.
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

Maybe people are racist towards you because you are a white christian and in the UK this is no longer acceptable.

I think that part of the problem is that we are white - they bring against us what they are prohibited to bring against non-white non-christians. Funny. they shouldn't have gone to those countries in the first place, so now there wouldn't be people coming to the capital of their own Commonwealth.

Normally its something like angalski

angielski is a normal word, polite word, meaning English
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

Many Polish people are racist, not so much the women but the men are.

I don't think that in Polish shops someone would cut the fabric for you unevenly just to show you you were and immigrant. Or I may get things wrong because of how the newspapers steam the situation up. I actually read that British wome were sent away from hospitals or made to go in labour on the steps of the hospital. If that happened to me, I would wonder if that was racist, but since that happened to a local, that might just show how disrespectful everyone is.

We have names for everyone, for ourselves as well. You are Angol, I am Polaczek, etc. Czarnuch is a name for Africans, sure. It's constructed with the same as mal-uch (little one), piec-uch (cosy one), smol-uch (soiled one), mieszcz-uch (city one). So it's not as bad as your version anyway. I can call that my favourite friend, or cat etc. Chapati is the name for Indians, a simple crib from their own language.

I may call you names, but do I tell you to get the f out? Or that you are lying? Or that you are worse? Or that I don't care what you think?

And yes, between the Indians and Poles in the UK it's really hard to communicate. The expectations are just too completely different.
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

BritishEmpire

You may translate it as you wish the fact remains that it's constructed to mean blackie, and that if you call somebody black it's definitely to show the 'black' that you are better. I don't think I'm better and that excludes guilt. It's the same as to call Japanese people 'skośni' because of their eyes, while being dead envious of their cars and samurai. Racist is when you think you are better and others are worse.

Ciapati is when I spell it, and Ciapak is when I abbreviate it.
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

Ksysia:
My friend 'Sandra' from Shanghai have tried working for them, too, and quit, too. She bought a house to live as a landlord, because she just couldn't stand the everyday attitude.

Evidently she likes the money they pay, or how else would she have afforded a house?

No, they tried not to pay. Evidently you think that all foreigner are poorer than the English? Or that one has to be starving to come to a country like yours? No, she asked Daddy for the money.

Ksysia:
My friend from last work, Damola, wanted to transfer her bank manager job to Britain. She came, and found that all the work she can get was cleaning.

Then she should have stayed in Africa.

That's all you have to say. you should have stayed out of Africa.

Why are you still here? £££ get the f*ck out of my country! We dont want or need you! (is that racist enough for you, you thick slavic sl*t?)

just go on and prove my point.

Ksysia:
I actually read that British wome were sent away from hospitals or made to go in labour on the steps of the hospital.

Where? proof or it didnt happen..(which it didnt)

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-540248/More-maternity-units-turn-away-women-labour.html

And McCains hadn't killed their Maddie?

BritishEmpire:
I will be amazed if anyone said that and they weren't joking.

Just another lie she made up...blimey her nose must be HUGE! even for a Pole :D

Pull your head our of your hole, as advised by your countryman.
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

uhm - as usual, 'get out'.

racism in the UK is definitely my personal invention to cause you pain in exchange for the hospitality shown to my countrymen in your warehouses. Wake up.

SeanBM - OK, do you have a term that is derogatory to mean white people? Because we do - Białasy.
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

white boy, honkey, milky bar kid, white trash, need i go on?

really? so if we have a rude name too, that makes us worse than the english? You shot your own foot, hunter.

And - look, it made through to the press!
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

but xenophobia I would say.

yes, you are right. I agree.

I don't really consider myself a victim in fact - less and less when I see how the English treat other English.

But everyday acts of evil will are definitely getting on my nerve.

Sledz, fix your damn F16s, bazzar trader.
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

Winni się tłumaczą, uderz w stół a nożyce się odezwą

which reads - the guilty ones explain themselves, hit a table and scissors rattle.

If I leave, where will you get smart people from?
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

On the contrary, sweetie. I respect the good things about England, and shun the bad things. I am not a freak on nature to worship the English soil.

Points to ponder - if English are so insecure that any pinch of salt makes them jump up, are they a big and strong country?
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

RevokeNice

The term racist is used way to often. Tell me this Ksysia, how would the Peoples Paradise of Poland react to millions of Brits and Paddy's emigrating there?

I am wondering on the same thing - how after all the load of disdain suffered here would I react to and English guy coming to work in my company? And I honestly don't know.

ShelleyS
i]Blimey...how long does it take for you to think this bollox up?[/i]

none at all - I just stick my head out of the window, and it comes in rock'n'rolling.

Ok, edited the rest, tired of Shelley
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

SeanBM

I may just be a human with feelings - I knew that emigracja is always hard, but had not expected disdain from that direction - Germans, yes, but they never showed me any :S

I have a hidden agenda, and I will now post another thread to come clean.
Ksysia   
7 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

stupid English do understand your language

Or so you think. One girl from Macedonia that I know, thought she understood Polish since she understands Serbian and Bulgarian. And she came to me with just a moan like yours once.

'i was walking down the street and those two Polish guys were calling each woman a wh0re! So I told them that I know what they meant! And they looked real stupid!'

I'm sure they did, because the word 'kurwa' which means 'wh0re' is used as your' fcuk', and some people use it in every sentence.

Poszedłem, kurwa, usiadłem, kurwa, i piwko wypiłem, kurwa.
I went there, fcuk, man, I sat there, fcuk, man, and I had me a beer, fcuk, man!

But that's another thing that I noticed - when the English people hear me talk with my man, they sometimes say things for me 'what is she saying Dave? Rich is a fat man, that's what she's saying.' But, no, I usually talk about sex.

All in all this thread had been very informative. I didn't realize before exactly to what extent you are insecure about what other people think about you. That's why you are always walking around with a grin - to quell other people's fears, not because you like them. That's why you alwyas talk to strangers - not to make friends, but to ensure that they have nothing to fear. And that's why all the girls wear the same kind of dresses at any given time of year - so that no other girl becomes anxious.

I also understood why girls in English school gang up and beat up Polish girls - it's not racism, or xenophobia, it's just that our faces and clothes are just a little different, and they feel threatened.

I also understand now why there are all those propaganda movies about how 'it's good to be different. Somebody is working on your society. But that also means that those films have slim chance of changing your attitude towards novelty - after all you were always just there yourself on the Island.

You didn't have the Germans who can't communicate in Slavonic, Tatars who worship differently, Turks who are not similar one bit, Czechs who are similar, but not the same, Prusowie, Jadźwingowie, who were Hunnic of Gothic I think? So now, since the war, you do, you are handling the situation pretty well, and are very proud of it. That's why you call Poland a 'young country, who is learning diversity and democracy', to feel a little more established in your ways.

Good, I'm proud of you. But cut on the 'young country who is learning'.

And about the rascals who spat at a woman - did you call the police?
Ksysia   
7 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

most of Polish people that I know who emmigrated to UK had basic education and were of the thuggish type..

so you obviously work somewhere grim. one of the problems of Polish diaspora in the UK, already spoken about by your Government, is that Poles are highly educated and qualified, but don't use this advantage. England has woken up and saw that they are not using this resource at all - million of educated, bright people could create trillions for your economy, but end up in menial jobs.
Ksysia   
9 Nov 2009
Work / I want to move to Poland (but of course we need to find a good job) [117]

Rafik, I think you are being too presumptuous, its still very hard for a non pole to get a good full time job....poland still has a closed shop metality.

simply the culture is different, yeah?
In Poland the company had to see you and you have to be proactive. That is find the companies you like, put on your suit, get your CV to the personally, and wait for an interview invitation. No agencies, not internet CV sending, only personal contact.

That takes time, and I'm sure it's easier to just pop your CV to the job agent, but we are distrustful, aren't we? My Mom has a firm in Poland and would never hire somebody who did not come and asked about it.
Ksysia   
2 Dec 2009
News / What is wrong with Poland that Poles emigrate? [167]

Nearly every Costa coffee or coffee shop I have been to (airports and Motorway service stations) have a Polish or an Eastern European person working there.

Actually, the coffee place that I go to, Nero, has two English 20yo people and they are so sweet and cheerful that I tip for the coffee £2 each time.

--
polkaontheisland.wordpress.com/2009/12/02/why-are-polish-people-coming-to-the-uk-other-reasons/
Ksysia   
6 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

It's the second time, when I was giving blood, when an English paramedic told me that his Father was in the unit liberating Poland in 1945?? I am not aware of any British unit in Warsaw in 1945, not that I'm well versed in History.

I know about the Warsaw Concerto in 1944 (thank you Britain), but 1945? That's when the Soviets were doing the liberating...
Ksysia   
8 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

well maybe his Dad was in some raid in Poland, that's possible. But it is a SECOND paramedic who tells me that... That would give a very high percentage of people to randomly meet and learn they were sons of heroes...

maybe there was an operation but is now forgotten for some reason?
Ksysia   
8 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

Aparently they count every piece of ammunition, every gallon of petrol, every spitfire and then - They charge Poland for this.

I'm not sure why that upsets you, enkidu? there was an agreement signed between ours and theirs commands, that we pay for ourselves. you should be proud that we didn't take money.