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Prince   
6 Nov 2008
Language / Poland in different languages? [74]

still maintain however, as a Westerner

Oj Marku Marku z jednej strony jesteś rasistą z drugiej wierzysz w asymilacje poprzez kulture (w swoim przypadku). Zdecyduj się Mareczku. Bo jeśli wierzysz w rasy to w USA też prędzej czy później skączy się jak zawsze ... to są ludzie głównie z europy, zarówno na wschodzie jaki i na zachodzie europy wystąpiły te same negatywne zjawiska w przeszłości.
Prince   
6 Nov 2008
Language / Poland in different languages? [74]

Rzeczywiście pobieżnie to przeczytałem, lecz mój przekaz jest wciąż aktualny.

Co do twojego polskiego:

Tak, tak zapewno(e)! Ale może być (lepiej: być może) nie zrozmialeś moją(ej) (GENITIV!) przeszła (poprzedniej/ostatniej) wiadomośći. To NIE było moje zdanie!!

Pozdrawiam kolege!
Prince   
6 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

FRAU MERKELOWSKA

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel

"Angela Merkel was born as Angela Dorothea Kasner in Hamburg, as the daughter of Horst Kasner (b. 6 August 1926 in Berlin-Pankow), a Lutheran pastor and his wife, Herlind (b. 8 July 1928 in Elbing as Herlind Jentzsch), a teacher of English and Latin. Her mother is a member of the Social Democratic Party of Germany. Her grandparents on her mother's side lived in Elbing in East Prussia; one of them had Polish origin. She has a brother, Marcus (born 7 July 1957), and a sister, Irene (b. 19 August 1964)."
Prince   
8 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

his father was from Cracow ... anyway

When we talk about language:
Polish language in writing was created by Mikołaj Rej (1505-1569)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikołaj_Rej

"Mikołaj Rej or Mikołaj Rey (Nicholas Rey) of Nagłowice, Poland. He is considered, along with Biernat of Lublin and Jan Kochanowski, to be one of the founders of Polish literary language and literature."

"A niechaj narodowie wżdy postronni znają,
iż Polacy nie gęsi, iż swój język mają."

("Let it by all and sundry foreign nations be known
that Poles speak not Anserine but a tongue of their own."
)

Most people in Poland were writing in Latin in Kopernik's times.
Prince   
8 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

I am packed and just before my travel to Kopanica :)

If Bratwurst vison became true what we are going to do with this (example) all Szulc (in German Shultz) families ... and what about eastern German families.

Szulc families in Poland: moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/szulc.html

I think we have a little bit different national consciousness but if europe goes in this direction we must think about changes and more "slavic" picture of our country. If they are Germans ...
Prince   
8 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Schultz is the 254th most common surname in Germany

We have simple different national awareness than you Bratwurs. I am not Szulc. I have how to say it ... let it be "slavic" name I am slav :)

If we folow your vision of heritage and nations we are going to have troubles. I feel that Poland has different national indentify (from centuries) than Germany.

I prefere Polish national awareness.

Poland has 130 Koperniks (all the time in Toruń)

Germany has 22

Kopernik is more Polish
Prince   
8 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Kopperlingk

I can't find anny in Germany :)

To be honest I think Kopernik is his original name but he used different latin or German forms in writting like all Poles when there was no Polish laguage in writting. When you use search for Kopernik and you know that his father moved from Kraków and you see that this name is easy to find in Kraków Toruń and Gdańsk ... his father was businessman ... Vistula river ... trade ... Gdańsk Chełmno Kraków :)

Think bratwurst think and use this tool.

Koper has meaning in Polish language - "dill" :)

and think what we need to do with this non-slavs in our country... Poland is not africa but we have so many "non slavic names" and what do you think we should do with this people...

See you after weekend ...

discussion to be continued :)
Prince   
8 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Stop referring to me as to £ukasz.

ou just offered

I just wanted to show how crazy this idea is but I realized that you don't care about JustysiaS but about final result. :)

Your Nazi vision is stupid. :)
Prince   
8 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Does it not make you an impression why the Germans want Copernicus so much since they have so many scientists and philosophs?Why do they need one more so desperate?I think it is because the Poles do not have anyone more.

enjoy:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Poles

edit. Here is something new (after quick look on list) Koprowski ;)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilary_Koprowski

I told you we would share...but why should we agree to wrong facts and a wrong telling of history? That's about it!Just sitting back and nodding for the sake of peace? How should we react?

No we have different view on some issues than Germans. We are proud of it :)
No way :)) Kopernik is Polish name there are people with this name in Poland its latin version is Copernicus. :) Koper in Polish means "dill" so it is very Polish name 130 people have this name.

Germans have strange mentality and old history of changing facts ...
Prince   
8 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Maybe you should just read and accept how Kopernikus described himself:

Well you use name Kopernikus and this name doesn't exist in reality ... it only exists in German books. Kopernik is real name and it exists mostly in Poland in places connected with Kopernik history.

moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/kopernik.html

Check your German versions or Latin versions !!!! They don't exist in reality!!!
Kopernik was loyal Polish citizen ... there are people with this name in Poland ( 130 people) and in Germany (about 58 - many of them in places with minorities) !!! Face some facts.

Another story is that remains of Prussians (you) in Berlin or generally in eastern Germany should rather think about present time because they are not very successful people ... only one thing they have is dream about 19th century great Prussia.... Look on Poles on the other side of border and learn what does hard work mean and determination in purpose achievements.
Prince   
9 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Poland has enough inventors: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Poles

The Copernicus manuscript book states : [...] Nicolaus Copernicus Canon [in] Warmia, in Prussia Germaniae mathematician...(Nicolai Copernick Canonici Varmiensis, in Borussia Germaniae mathematici)

False he described himself as from Toruń.

Germans want to call EU project using German name but it doesn't exist in reality.

Only Polish version Kopernik is in use (Mostly in Poland and some in Germany -many of them in regions with Slavic miniority) In Poland Kopernik's live in places connected with Koperniks history. German name mentioned in your link doesn't exist in reality (in Germany and Poland)

ONLY POLISH VERSION : moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/kopernik.html
Prince   
9 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Curie

She was born Maria Skłodowska in Warsaw, Vistula Country, Russian Empire, and lived there until she was 24. In 1891 she followed her elder sister Bronisława to study in Paris

Marie Skłodowska-Curie (7 November 1867 - 4 July 1934) was a physicist and chemist of Polish upbringing and, subsequently, French citizenship. She was a pioneer in the field of radioactivity, the only person honored with Nobel Prizes in two different sciences, and the first female professor at the University of Paris.

There was no Poland when she was living in France. Poland was under occupation she supported Polish independence.

She named the first new chemical element that she discovered (1898) "polonium" for her native country, and in 1932 she founded a Radium Institute (now the Maria Skłodowska-Curie Institute of Oncology) in her home town Warsaw, headed by her physician-sister Bronisława.

Kopernik was writing that he is from Toruń not the "German"

Language:

In Poland we were using Latin and German language in writing. In Kopernik's times Polish language has been created.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikołaj_Rej

"A niechaj narodowie wżdy postronni znają,
iż Polacy nie gęsi, iż swój język mają."

("Let it by all and sundry foreign nations be known
that Poles speak not Anserine but a tongue of their own.")

Mikołaj Rej (February 4, 1505 - between September 8 and October 5, 1569 (...) He is considered, along with Biernat of Lublin and Jan Kochanowski, to be one of the founders of Polish literary language and literature.

Kopernik couldn't write in Polish - it was impossible. He was using languages all Poles were using in writing.

Only Polish versions exist in reality.

mapa/kompletny/kopernik.html

What is important in places connected with his family history (his father was form Kraków).
He was using Latin version (in documents). When we look on fact that in modern times people use Polish version of this name ... and they live mostly in Poland... in places strongly connected with his history ...

What is more Skłodowska - Cure was supporting Polands independence like Mikołaj Kopernik who was loyal soldier in Polish army and he has been fighting against country considered to be "German".

In my opinion using of German version of his name is very wrong because you can't find Germans or Poles with such name. You can find people with name Kopernik or his Latin name in most documents.
Prince   
9 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

It was impossible for him as he probably never learned the language.

Especialy when he was studing in Kraków or serving in Polish army and his father was from Kraków and people with his name live in Kraków. This name is Kopernik.

But he did write that:

He was writting that Torinensis = from Toruń:
Prince   
9 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

That Poles want to stay Poles and Germans want to stay Germans? Where is the difference?

Post me picture where with document where Kopernik has name you mention. Find me Germans with such name... YOU CAN'T

WE CAN FIND PEOPLE ONLY WITH POLISH VERISON OF HIS NAME ... IN PLACES WHERE HIS FAMILY HAS BEEN WORKING ...WHAT IS MORE THEY WERE LOYAL POLISH CITIZENS.

I SHOW DOCUMENTS I SHOW FACTS.
Prince   
10 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

PS: The whole argument is a bit strange, as we are arguing about the nationality of a person that lived in the XV century using criteria of a nationality from XXI century. But what ever...

Bratwurst is using criteria from WWII not 21st century and even if we take WWII criteria ... he is not right
Prince   
14 Nov 2008
News / Cadbury Wedel invest PLN 960mn in Poland by 2012 [19]

gowarsaw.eu/en/news/cadbury-wedel-invest-pln-960mn-in-poland-by-2012

2008-11-05

"Cadbury Wedel will spend on investments in Poland nearly PLN 960mn and will create 750 new job places, within the framework of the long-standing programme for 2008-2012, the economy ministry announced in a communiqué. The government approved the programme implementation on Tuesday and will support the company with PLN 14.18mn."

"The company wants to create a research-and-development centre, which will carry out research of the modern confectionery technologies for Cadbury Wedel group and for the European department of Cadbury Schweppes."

Work is in progress.
Prince   
15 Nov 2008
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

Last picture is form Poznań

and second one is from Warszawa.
Prince   
16 Nov 2008
News / What Poland can't do right [113]

They can't build roads!!!!!!

Autostrada A4 Wrocław - Zgorzelec



Trasa, Autostrada A2 Poznań



A4 wrocław-katowice -kraków

before Euro 2012.

Budowa Autostrady A1

CHOJNICE BUDIMEX OBWODNICA


Prince   
20 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Softsong bambers in Poznań (some immigrants form Bamberg) were asked by Prussians about their ethnic group and they answered "Polish" so they had the same problems as other Polish citizens with Prussians... they were persecuted in result of their ethnic backgroud they were expeled form their houses by Germans they had problem in offices they couldn't work in some proffesions ... like the Poles because they were Poles . I don't think that they would like to be shared. Copernicus was Polish and I wouldn't be so sure about his mother Y-DNA :)
Prince   
20 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Why?

Why she is German ?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel

Angela Merkel was born as Angela Dorothea Kasner in Hamburg, as the daughter of Horst Kasner (b. 6 August 1926 in Berlin-Pankow), a Lutheran pastor and his wife, Herlind (b. 8 July 1928 in Elbing as Herlind Jentzsch), a teacher of English and Latin. Her mother is a member of the Social Democratic Party of Germany. Her grandparents on her mother's side lived in Elbing in East Prussia; one of them had Polish origin

Why she is German ? Her Grandfather was (in your terms) "ethnic" Pole.

Merkel about her Slavic soul

Sama Angela Merkel niezbyt często opowiada o swoich elbląskich korzeniach. Jedynie w wywiadzie dla "Die Zeit" powiedziała: Mam polskie korzenie poprzez dziadka. Gdy jestem w melancholijnym nastroju, myślę sobie, że odzywa się we mnie słowiańska dusza.

(Use translator)

She is German :) We don't want to share her. Copernicus mother had German name .... so what?