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Doughnuts   
22 Oct 2010
Real Estate / Legal questions about dividing a property in Poland [19]

Hello
I have a few questions that I would be very gratefull to anybody for any assistance they might be able to give.
I Have a polish wife and like many polish familys, her family have a large unfinished house that her parents have decided to split amongst their 3 children. There are actually 2 houses on the site, a 2 bed finished house (parents) and an unfinished 6 bedroom "extension" garage/basement, 2 floors and loft. It is the extension that has been decided to be split up. We were over there last week and whent to the notariusz who said the only way it could be divided would be for the total estate to be split and then for an architect and solicitor to draw up papers as to who was entitled to each part of the house and land.

Within a normal family enviroment this would not have botherd me and I would have happily sank 10k into renovating what will be my wifes portion of the extension, the ground floor. However her parents are not the most stabile and I am worrying that the 1/4 of the estate that my wife is signed for but not determined will allow her parents to continually change the goal posts. My 1st question being does the allocation of the estate follow this process or has my wife and family been led down the garden path as the notariusz cost 2000zl.

The next question I have is at the moment the estate is split into 1/4s with each parent having 1/4 and my wife and her younger brother having a 1/4 each. The eldest son who for personal reasons has not been allocated anything at this time but with a promise that on the parents passing he will get their 1/2. As my wife does not have a great relationship with her brother does he have any legal grounding to challenge her and her brothers 1/4 allocation or at the parents death would their 1/2 have to be split among the 3 children?

On a side note as the ground floor of the house is to be a holiday flat for my wife and our family are there any precautions I should be aware of that would not necessarily apply in the UK. The most obvious 1 I can think of is freezing pipes in the winter for which I will start a new thread about. But there may be some other legal issues I am not aware of with regard to being responsible for property in Poland.

Thanks in advance for any help.
Doughnuts   
22 Oct 2010
Real Estate / Central Heating System Installation Advice (flat near Zakopane) [7]

Hello
I have to install some form of central heating into a ground floor flat near Zakopane, with the flat being 5 rooms and 80m2. Initially I was contemplating a standard wood burner with back boiler and radiators but then considerd the freezing water effect on the system during the colder months when the flat is empty. At the moment I am thinking more about a wood burner with hot air delivery system but am not sure as to it's effectiveness and the possible problem of dust being blown into each room. Does anybody have a simple cost effective solution that would work as I am not looking to spend a great deal of money due to only spending maybe 6 weeks a year in the flat. Electric heaters are not an option due to the fragility of the electrical feed to the property.

On a side note does 5000zl for 4 good sized double windows, double glazed with dual openers and a triple, patio door window with triple glazing, installed sound like a reasonable price. I was expecting it to be cheaper than the UK but not that cheap. And that is from a well established local manufacturer?

Thanks in advance for any advice given.
Doughnuts   
22 Oct 2010
Real Estate / Legal questions about dividing a property in Poland [19]

I am afraid that the property as a whole can not be bought from my wifes parents. In any case for 300000zl I can by a 5 bed farmhouse with out buildings. The intention is to have a small flat close to her parents that would avoid our family having to stay in the same living space as her parents. As I am sure most on here are aware Poland has a greater problem with alcohol than the UK.
Doughnuts   
22 Oct 2010
Real Estate / Legal questions about dividing a property in Poland [19]

Would this still apply as the eldest is not the fathers biological son and although I do not believe any formal adoption process was undertaken he does have my wifes fathers surname?
Doughnuts   
24 Oct 2010
Real Estate / Central Heating System Installation Advice (flat near Zakopane) [7]

Windows are from a company called partner and another family member has recomended them to us having used them for a flat in Krakow. Wife whent into the HQ with the measurements and that is what they quoted for their standard white uPVC windows.

We will be using an electric water heater for the kitchen and an electric shower, I did toy with the idea of a 50l boiler but have decided on the "heat as you use option" units that sit under the sink.

As for space heating I don't like the idea of using electric as with a forest behind the house there is plenty of free logs.
Doughnuts   
24 Oct 2010
Real Estate / Legal questions about dividing a property in Poland [19]

To try and update on a few of the questions in no particular order,

The "extension" has 2 entrances and so the only access issues would be with regard to the garden and on that point alone I think I have allready decided that an architect and solicictor would need to be employed.

Media services to the house are well water and a single electrical feed with only the ground floor being connected anyways. In order to get a second meter for her brother and seperate bills in the future I guess the local council will have to be involved after the solicitor to allocate the flats a + b.

As the total land area of the plot is 7 ar I understand spliting the house could only be done as if it were a "block".