Genealogy / Any Polish Tatars here? [95]

I am trying to do a bit of research on my background as well. I was adopted, so it is a bit more difficult. My birth mother is half Hungarian and Polish, and I've seen a picture of her mother who was very olive looking, and had dark, thick, wavy long hair when she was young, and dark small eyes.

I seem to have her eyes, but mine are light-coloured. I have a light olive color to my skin, and high blush coloring in my cheeks, which I hear is a Mongolian trait. I also have a "spot" or birth mark on my right shoulder, which I have heard is also a mark of Tatar blood.

Most of my birth mother's family looks European, but her brother has a dark look about him. She doesn't know much about her ancestors before they came to the States, but she seems to think they were from a village in the Carpathian Mountains.

Any information you have to direct me to research this would be helpful. I am going on very little information here. I will try to find out my grandmother's maiden name.

Does anyone know anything about this so-called spot of Tatar heritage?

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


I understand your point, HB, but there is another point. WE understand that three million Jews died, and that three million Poles and others died, but many people do not. It is mostly represented as 6 million Jews, and a few others.

Just my observation.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


Yes, but most people don't know to what extent it wasn't just Jews. When you have upwards of half the population who perished that weren't Jews, there is a significant underrepresentation of this fact in most media and academic sources.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

A college generally awards 4 year degrees from different departments of one school, whereas a university is a unified collection of different colleges and schools that offer different degrees. You can get graduate degrees at a university all the way up to a doctorate, so there is also a difference in the type of research that is conducted between the two. In the U.S., college and university is used interchangeably as a casual description, but there are technical differences between the two.

Life / Why do people think that I'm Polish ? [92]


Check, check, check, check, and check. Five out of 6 isn't bad. I am not tall, and unfortunately not blessed with the pointy chin.

Genealogy / Red Hair - recessive gene from Poland? [108]


That's right. But, it wasn't only the Vikings who had red hair in the far north; some tribes out of Siberia on the western side of the Urals also had red hair. Red hair was also associated with Russian Jews early on in the very beginning of Kiev and Rus, going back to Kharzaria.


Except that the incidence of red hair in Eastern Europe was apparent way before the 17th Century, and developed independently of the Viking invasion as well. If red hair evolved due to a lack of Vitamin D, then it only follows and is actually supported that Siberian tribes independent of the Vikings also had this evolutionary gene. *(But, who knows if it was completely independent, because Siberian tribes in the far east never developed the same gene. But, they all have some degree of the eye fold to protect the eye from the glare of the sun). Due to various migrations out of the far north and into Central Asia and Eastern Europe, it is not a big surprise that red gene also naturally occurs to a lesser degree in Eastern Europe.

As for the Celtics tribes, it is my understanding that their settlements also originated in Eastern Europe somewhere around where the Czech Republic is now, until they migrated west, terrorized Gaul and crumbling Roman Empire for awhile, and crossed over. I have also met a few Czechs who have red hair.

I'll look for my links somewhere. I have them buried somewhere because I was conducting research on my own heritage from Eastern Europe and saved them.

*Edit:


Yeah, probably that too. Aren't there still places in England with Viking names?

Ok, here are some quick links and excerpts (I couldn't find my other links at the moment, but these will do):

khazaria.com/khazar-history.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Russia

Kievan Rus'

David Christian, A History of Russia, Central Asia and Mongolia, Blackwell Publishing, 1998, pp. 286-288. ISBN 0631208143.

geographia.com/russia/rushis02.htm
redheads.ie/Origins-Red-Hair.htm
viking.no/e/england/danelaw/index.html

Genealogy / Red Hair - recessive gene from Poland? [108]


True, it is a different shade of hair color, but we are talking about origins and evolution of the first genes here. As for the origins of the red-haired gene, the jury is still out as to whether it originated from the Iranic tribes of the steppes or Neanderthals in Central Europe. But even going back as far as the Neanderthals, won't settle the argument of "purity."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal

Modern human findings in Abrigo do Lagar Velho, Portugal of 24,500 years ago, allegedly featuring Neanderthal admixtures, have been published.[84]"

Life / Polish stereotypes of other nationalities!? [472]


There may be some truth to that. The rest of Scandinavia also thinks the Finns are weird, who are not Scandinavians but Finno-Ugrics. I have some insight into this because I have been doing research on Hungarians, who are Finno-Ugric and related to Finns, and are also a depressed bunch.

I think it may have something to do with Celiac Disease, which is prevalent in Finland. They can't digest grains well, and this wreaks havoc on multi-systems in the body, including neurologically.

medicinenet.com/celiac_disease/article.htm

"Celiac disease is common in European countries, particularly in Ireland, Italy, Sweden, and Austria. In Northern Ireland, for example, one in every 300 people has celiac disease. In Finland, the prevalence may be as high as one in every 100 persons."

So maybe the Poles are onto something there.

*edit: I don't mean to offend Finns in the slightest. I am also part Hungarian and a Celiac, so I view them as related.

Life / Polish stereotypes of other nationalities!? [472]


Yes, and that's true almost anywhere.


Thank goodness for Ikea. Quality on a budget. I can't wait to go to Sweden this summer - and Poland!

Life / POLISH TEENAGERS TURN TO PROSTITUTION... [77]


No, not at all. Thailand has one of the biggest sex markets, both for domestic and foregin consumption; Brazil, Japan, East Africa and of course other Eastern European countries such as Russia, Ukraine, etc.

I think the common denominator is an abundance of beautiful women, limited consumption power, globalization, and a burgeoning market of foreign demand. Of course, Japan is an exception in that they have strong consumption power, but many of the world's women are trafficked or relocated to their local market. In the case of teenagers prostituting themselves for luxury products, they have the exact same problem.