UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]


Forgive me, but this all seems a bit strange to me. Someone was rude to you in a bank? An employee of the bank? So you just ask to see her manager and you complain that she was rude to you. That is how it works here.

Nobody said there was no racism in the UK - there is everything in the UK. Of course Poland is breathtakingly racist, and it is also fairly common to be treated pretty rudely in Polish shops, as I remember. But when I lived in Poland, I simply observed this. It wasn't my place to complain, or so I felt.

You choose to be here, I guess, so there must be something about the UK that attracts you. What?

UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]


Well, that explains it. And a lot more, i'm sure ; )


Kysia, I'm sorry, but where to start with you?
You seem to have a massive problem with the UK. Or perhaps you're just doing a very well-educated thesis on some of these issues, and this is your research?

And bugger off with 'no Brits speak Polish'. I do. And I can assure you that I have a veritable armoury of offensive language at my command.

Not that I choose to use it. (well, not yet) (go on, push me ; )

UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]


why you are always talking about sex ; )

As for our Polish lady,

- she might be just a mad psycho-Polka with a giant chip on her shoulder, mightn't she?

UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]


i know this is going off at a tangent, but what is it with that? lots of my polish friends can't swim - especially women - they express a wide-eyed kind of fear of water - which i guess one would do if one couldn't swim ... (phew, at least there is SOMETHING i can do that they can't!)

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]

master:
i do everthing for her she has no bills to pay has a car she can use and i give 400 a month to spend she call me names i dont no what to do

swap her for me

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]


am very nice ... polish women think i am stupidly nice ... they can't understand why ... polish men tend to like it, although they feel a bit like they have been transported to a parallel universe ... one where if they drink too much vodka, someone strokes their hair and gives them water and says 'oh you poor darling ... you must stay in bed all Sunday and i will make you feel better', instead of making him sleep on the sofa while throwing all of his things out of the window, including all the gold jewellry he has given her to try to make her happy (but she never is ...). buy me a packet of polos and i am happy for a month : )

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]


it makes sense. £100 an hour for sex, or £5 an hour for cleaning toilets ...

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]


Such as?

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]


? dumpier as in shorter, or thicker as in stupider?
I thought the Greek govnt invented Demothiki in the early 20th Century ...
I did speak it. Quite well. And yes, it was v easy to learn. Only 4 cases. A breeze : )

My Polish man was concerned that i might be getting too many calories from sperm. Has there been any research on this?

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]

oh yes .. dumb of me ; )

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]


it absolutely directly related to how much sex they are getting. women who are having sex twice a day simply don't get fat. reduce that even to something miserably standard like twice a week, and hey presto ... at least a stone fatter each week. not sure if it is because of the distress, or boredom, or lack of exercise. important in such cases to supplement with strenuous activity such as an hour's swimming every morning. sex warmer, though.

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]

then you must be very rich and excellent at time management.


I did think about the calories - important to offset any high-calorie drinks with energetic activity.

Actually, seriously, there is some theory about the health of the ... how shall i put it ... most inner sanctum of the female body. It needs regular bathing in the appropriate fluids in order properly to regulate the health of the whole body. Apparently. And only when it is getting enough of what it needs will one's metabolism be operating ideally. Now if that isn't a medical imperative for large amounts of sex, I don't know what is. Sex is Health. In Victorian times women of a 'nervous' disposition were discreetly deemed not to be getting enough sex, and were sent to special 'doctors' who met their needs, shall we say. They would suddenly perk up, develop a new spring in their step, shed the pounds and have a permanent rosy flush to their cheeks. What an enlightened era! Such a sad decline in the health service in recent decades

: (

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]


see below


ah! a guaranteed method of pleasing at last! doesn't just work on polish women ... works on all ... i have developed a v good memory for numbers ...

Life / How Polish are you? [74]

omigod. just scored 85%. that means i am totally polish apart from not having polish mother or father. just goes to show what living in a house of poles can do to you ... they have taken me over. mind you, there should also have been a couple more questions:

For women

1. How clean is yr bathroom?
2. Do you consider a size 8 fat?
3. Have you eaten anything in the past week?
4. How often do you throw all of your partner's belongings out of the window, and/or make him sleep on the sofa? (daily/weekly/once a month/once every three months)

For men

1. How many prostitutes have you visited in the past month?
2. How many secret families/children in other countries do you have?
3. How many teeth have you got?

Love / Are there Polish women who date black guys? [281]

everyone seems to be getting a bit upset here. back to topic:
polish girls like black men because they are exotic, out of bounds and have big dicks (probably). if they have lots of gold chains and a bmka too, all the better. simple. end of thread.

Love / Are there Polish women who date black guys? [281]


bmw, preferably substantially pimped (as in 'stary, pimp my ride')

exotic as in other, different, and decidedly un-Polish

it is the reaction of Polish girls who have been brought up to serve wife-beating potato-eaters. they go for wife-beating jamaican-jerk-chicken eaters instead.

(that was of course a joke and i don't mean to suggest that either polish men or black men only eat those things) (but will leave the comment about the beating ...)

Love / How many Polish men are Violent how much is domestic abuse reported. [129]


i think that the occasional physical reaction is not seen as totally unacceptable, in the way i think it is in my culture (english). and certainly whacking kids is seen as aok.

i guess there's a downside to a very physical culture for men.

of course nobody here can give a definitive answer based on statistics, as everyone's opinion is based on a relatively small sampling. but put it this way .. i have heard that 'oh and now he never sees his kids ... they got divorced ... he drank ... he beat her up ...' more times in the past few years of being with Poles than ever before (before it was just something i occasionally read about in the papers).

to be honest i think it is more the vodka, and the frustration, and the prescriptive male culture, than anything else. i would risk saying that i think, from my experience, there is more lashing out among Poles than among my (fey, intellectual ; ) English friends ...


you wish ; )

UK, Ireland / Polish woman in the UK gives birth then leaves the baby in hospital [28]

couldn't it be that her crazy jealous mad vodka-fuelled married lover killed her, as she gave birth rather than aborting the baby??

just a hunch.

Love / What do foreign women think of Polish men? [120]


wow. where do i start?! at least one novel, if not three, required to explain you guys.

firstly, my credentials are reasonably strong for being in a position to have an opinion. i will say that i have two children, and their fathers are both Polish. trust me, that counts as a close encounter with the species. ok, only two test cases, but pretty in depth study ... and, of course, a host of satellite males have also been studied (purely platonically, i hasten to add ; )

ok. one big whopping thought: whatever, despite everything, all serious character flaws and crazy traits that they may have aside, i prefer polish men to most others (that is of course a generalisation, but in general, that's my opinion ...).

why? because (omigod everyone will now hate me) they are more ... real. somehow. don't know how. more raw. more flawed, maybe. more charming, usually. less reasonable, often. better at changing lightbulbs, always.

too many thoughts on this. will contribute more tomorrow.


this also often true, but lovable ones ; )

Love / Inside polish women's psychology and mind [109]

I would imagine Polish women are going through a similar revolution (albeit in a v minor way) as Western Europe in the 60s/70s. It is a kick-out against a very traditional, repressive (to some) culture where the woman is only valued as a woman if she is a perfect mother and home-maker. Children are sometimes used to tie a woman to a home, keep her quiet (tired) and within her role. This way she doesn't threaten the male: she cares for him and the children. He has little involvement in the more arduous aspects of childcare (washing, cleaning, getting up in the night, etc.) - he goes to work in the morning, comes back to his tea (as they would say up North in England - another bastion of similar culture ; ) and then relaxes. He may play with the children for a little while, but soon hands them back to their mother.

The mother shoulders 99% of the practical responsibility for the children, and it is a matter of honour (or has been made so) that she doesn't need help from anyone else - and certainly not the man. She would not be a proper woman if she couldn't 'dac sobie rade' with her children (and home/man). She does have a lot of influence in the home, and general rules the roost, but she is also a workhorse. And, should she ever really step out of line or ask too much of her husband, she may well get the back of a hand to show that she has overstepped the mark, one evening when she has 'driven' him to drink ...

And yet, while she still has no children, the man will be as good as gold, because he needs her, to create his family, and therefore continue the progression of his status in life.

Any wonder some women don't want kids?

OK, a slightly angled view of things there, and some generalisations, but I challenge anyone to prove there is not a kernel of truth. : )

Language / Can you recognise the nationality of foreign Polish speakers by their accent? [43]

ok, yes, there is an odd thing here.

i am English. i can listen to any English native speaker and, like someone said, tell you within a radius of max. 70 miles what area of the country they are from.

i speak with someone whose English is great but not L1 and of course i know in nano seconds that they are not English. and i can usually hear a Pole a mile off.

now, i speak Polish. well, apparently. and Poles either think i am genuinely Polish - yes - or that I am Polish but at some point migrated to the UK and got vaguely Anglicised. They don't say I am English.

weird, no? weird in that they can't immediately tell, however good my Polish is, that i am a fake ...

Language / Can you recognise the nationality of foreign Polish speakers by their accent? [43]


you are very welcome ... although not sure what for ; )


Maybe unfair on you Poles ... but it is true that some other native speakers have possibly more neutral ? an accent, or foundation, and can therefore morph more convincingly into other accents. Their native accent doesn't intrude so much. I do know v high-flying Poles with near perfect English, but they still sound Polish. I know Dutch people, though, who I would honestly think to be native English speakers who've spent a bit of time in the US or Ireland. They have a very slight drawl. But their accent is amazingly good. I don't know how good they are in Italian or French, though ... and Poles DO have good French accents.

OK: maybe it's this: different languages have different compatibilities (eg, Poles have an accent in English, but not so in French; Dutch v lucky in English, but not so in Chinese; etc. ? an idea ....)

Food / Eating Kielbasa - how do you cook yours? [119]

polish sausage is repellent in all aspects and it doesn't make any difference how you cook it (but grilled is the least unpleasant) (although still horrible)

sorry. can't help being english ; )

Life / Importance of Religion in Poland [187]


never in my life have i encountered such blind hypocrisy as i have in Poland. they don't seem to understand, eg, that if you are Catholic YOU DON'T DO ABORTION. ????

they all go and pray and kneel, etc, then go home and have abortions.
am not joking.
or talk about how children (who are running around, delightful children) should have been aborted but got lucky. (while conceived within stable marriages)

wtf?

sorry, but am not being nice now. am being direct and Polish about this. it is utter bollocks. who can say it isn't??

Food / Eating Kielbasa - how do you cook yours? [119]

no, am sorry, but one can also use 'repellent' to mean 'something which has the property of repelling' - in the case of Polish sausage, repelling me (rather than mosquitoes). i think there are several quotations from Oscar Wilde where he uses it thus - am pretty sure there are at least two in 'Importance ...'.

i am extremely english, i can assure you.

have a natural aversion to pigs' noses and balls made into sausages and frozen and then unwrapped and given to me ...

Food / Eating Kielbasa - how do you cook yours? [119]


not sure what use of caps has to do with nationality?? : )

i simply prefer going naked on such forums. no capital letters. not even for proper nouns. feels risky and exhilirating. you see, i am extremely english. such things excite me. like polish sausage. in the right context. ; )

seriously, you Poles (ok, had to do that to distinguish you from long sticks) - are these sausages frequently used as sex toys?

Love / All the good Polish men for dating are taken? [111]


all desirable Polish men are married, or taken such that they will soon be married.
even bald, toothless, women-beating alcoholics are married.
in fact, every Polish male is married, and usually by the age of 21.

no, seriously. Polki know what's what. there is a terrific fight for bagging yr man and setting up your family, early on. it's like rushing to get a partner in a gym lesson.

there are, of course, exceptions - free thinkers - rebels. they quite often end up in the UK, but are usually snapped up by any men-less Polki here.

so, if you are not a Polish woman, but you want a Polish man, you really have a very limited field of play. your best bet is the curious maverick who has refused to join the masses, but there really aren't many of them. they tend to be v much worth it, though. rare gems. but i am biased.

Love / All the good Polish men for dating are taken? [111]


?? I was talking about men, so don't know who 'she' is.


yes, of course, that one example means the entire Polish population do the same ...

i don't know if you guys know what irony/joking/etc is?? Obviously i don't think every Polish man gets married at 21!

BUT
there is a hugely strong tradition of marrying relatively young in Poland. It DID used to be (and not so long ago - and still v much so in some areas/social groups) that people were expected to


for several decades in the UK, this has not been what you do - the trend has been to 'have a life' and then worry about having no family in your mid to late thirties, panic, and marry anything that comes along, and spend your 40s trying to make up for lost time.

I repeat the word 'trend'. am not talking about individuals. am talking about general movements. And I stand by the assertion that if you take 1000 UK guys aged 25, and 1000 Polish guys, significantly more of the Poles will be married. Yes, the culture is changing, but it is still going strong.

And by the way, anything I say about Polish women is meant playfully.

Love / Need Advice: I have fallen in love with a Polish woman... [65]


my God thank you for that - you are so right - that is what i have been doing wrong (and what has been driving me crazy!) ...

i also am involved in a complicated relationships where everyone has baggage and someone lied through their teeth quite a bit, so I can relate to the poster's predicament.

the thing he should remember is: Polish women very rarely, if ever, do anything that would jeopardise their financial/general security, and that of their children. They do, on the other hand, frequently do whatever is necessary to improve their position, in the quickest and most direct way to hand.

Po prostu, they do things differently to Brits, so if poster is a Brit, he should watch out ...

Language / I teach English to some Polish people - how to explain them tenses? [33]


Sorry, but are we talking about the same 'English' here?! Our perception, and hence verbalization, of time is one of the most difficult things for foreign learners, and especially for Poles ... we have (arguably):

present simple / continuous
past simple / continuous
present perfect simple / continuous
past perfect simple / continuous
five ways of referring to future time (future with 'will', present simple for timetables, present continuous for arrangements, 'going to' for plans)
future perfect simple/continuous
future continuous
genuine conditionals (would, etc.)
modal verbs
subjunctives (effectively)

and all the above also active and passive ...

? How is that easy, and in what way do we have relatively few tenses? We have more tenses that a lot of languages, and make distinctions of time/perspective that other languages don't (which is the difficulty in explaining/learning).

Ok ... sorry ... small rant over ... but just don't want you to think our tense system is 'easy', as it is (notoriously) not so.

As for how to explain the present perfect ; ) ... think of the actual words you use.

I have been.

ie, I possess that action. It is mine. I present it to you. The significance of it is that I own it - I have experienced it. And I am still here, holding it, showing it to you.

Try to feel what it really means. Then it will be easier to communicate.