Language / Learning English from Polish: Language books - Audio downloads ? [7]

Where then in Bavaria are you living? As I said, I spent time there, but exclusively in and outside Munich:-)

Oh yes, I recall there was a fairly large multi-lang. learning center not far from my friend's flat called Colloquaeia, if I'm not mistaken. Name ring a bell?

Pretty sure they teach all languages, if they're still around.

Best of luck once again!

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

...and maybe I like "lishak" instead of "lizaC", but nevertheless it's WRONG!! So you like to mutilate English, whereas Serbian must always be perfect??!

Now there's a double standard:-)

lol

Stick to the topic

News / Turkey abolished visas for Poles. [80]

Actually, Turks are NOT Semites at all, but rather Uralic-Altaic in origin aka "Turkic", not unrelated to the Azerbajzhanis both culturally as well as linguistically:-)

Turkish has indeed undergone a heavy Arabic overlay for nearly a thousand years, however as I'm sure everyone's aware, Mustafa Kemal or "Ataturk" endeavored to abolish as many Arab root words from the so-called 'Osman Turkish' in Turkish as he possibly could by having them replaced by native Turkic roots as part of the great Turkish Language Reform during the 1930's!

Many ignorant people believe Turks to be like Arabs who speak a Semitic tongue and this is simply not the case. Furthermore, Istanbul, originally Constantinople named after the Emperor Constantine The Great, was a Christian citadel before the Muslims invaders took over the city and converted her inhabitants to Islam nearly one thousand years ago.

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

"I know that. I AM REFERRING TO A free Lusatia ALONG with other new(er) Slavic states in what is now THE eastern PART OF Germany......"

@Crow, the rest of your sentence I wasn't able to correct, because I didn't understand what you're trying to say:-)

Always capitalize the pronoun "I" in English!

Language / Learning English from Polish: Language books - Audio downloads ? [7]

I spent a short period in Bavaria, late 90's or so, but at the time, didn't come into contact with all that many "Zuag'roascht'r" (Zugereiste), much less native Polish speakers.

It might be easier at the beginning for your friend to learn from someone with English rather than Polish as their mother tongue. If the teacher makes basic errors, your friend will eventually have to unlearn them and this can only sow confusion (Drachensaat ernten) later on:-)

On the other hand, English is so widely used in Europe, this probably won't present too much difficulty. In addition, sometimes a non-native speaking teacher of a foreign language might understand the mistakes the person learning it makes, since they probably have the same confusions themselves.

tarsape@gmail

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

It already has, Crow, as "Die Lausitz".
:-)

Language / Learning English from Polish: Language books - Audio downloads ? [7]

Try bookbox! It's free, easily downloadable and offers non-stop, uninterrupted exposure to English, for that matter, almost any one of hundreds of other languages as well:-)

Incidentally, where in Germany do you live/are you from?

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

How so, Ironside?

In fact, Polish-German territories apparently remain a disputed point, as there are seemingly some among us right here who dispute the current internationally accepted borders between the two countries:-)

Again, if Oder-Neisse isn't definitive enough, then what is, pray tell?

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Shows how much Polish you (STILL DON'T) know, Crow-)))

"łyżka" = spoon
LOL

As to how the word's functional use reflects its etymology, that's anybody's guess. Polish does though tend to be more "direct" than, say, English, where one either already knows the meaning or has to hazard an often incorrect guess, except if background info. is already apparent or known.:

Cf. below

"Friday" = piątek > "piĘĆ" or "the fifth" (..day of the week)
"November" = listopad > "liście pad" or "leaves fall.."

etc...

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

And what please is this disgusting display intended to indicate? If you're trying to show how the native Slavic culture of formerly "German" territory has supposedly been putrified through the onslaught of Germanic culture depositing her "excrement" after centuries of subjugation, you haven't completely succeeded:-)

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Translation, Crow?
:-)

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Clearly the argument concerning Polish "mistreatment" of Germans is completely untenable, not to mention historically presposterous. I think we're all finally agreed on this point:-)

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Anna, you're once again missing the point entirely!

The Poles "stole" nothing which wasn't already GERMAN territory long prior to the modern era, roughly around the end of the 19th century:-) If anyone was doing the stealing, it surely wasn't the Poles; more than likely they were merely trying to reclaim lands which were rightfully theirs prior to end of the Thirty-Years War, much later taken over (for yet the second or even third time) by the Germans when Hitler officially invaded Poland in 1939.

I suggest you read up more on the legalities of recovering supposedly lost or stolen property, if and when the owner never had a written agreement, but instead simply relied on primogeniture on which to rest rights of ownership.

Work / Net Salary for comfortable life in Wroclaw [14]

Stasiu,

Ever learn algebra in school? Cared to wonder where much of modern medicine in Europe came from? If you answer "Al -Ghe-Braha" and Rhazes, you'd be right on the money:-)

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Oder-Neisse is a geopolitical, rather than a legally binding concept! As the two rivers are a fixed point or natural landmark, they cannot be disputed other than by one side claiming the territory which they divide falls on THEIR side as opposed to other's:-)

The Federal Republic of a re-united Germany's borders are based solely on the Four-Powers Treaty signed by the US, Germany, (then not yet soon to become "West Germany"), France, and Russia in 1949, following Germany's official defeat in 1945 as well as the establishment of Germany's first post-war Constitution or "Basic Law" of 1947!

At that time, former East Prussia was ceded to Poland, hence Allenstein becomes officially Olsztyn, for instance and other once Nazi-occupied territories (the infamous "Ostlandgebeite") were returned, so to speak, to Russia.

Claims that POLAND "stole" aka expropriated formerly Polish lands later "stolen back" by the Germans would appear an historical absurdity, not to mention just plain ludicrous, if nothing else.

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

@Crow,
Slavs obviously inhabited Europe, along with the Germanic tribes, Balts, Alemanic peoples etc., no one's questioning or denying that! The bone of contention is whether or not certain lands or territories claimed as Polish are in fact LEGALLY Polish or whether or not they were "purloined" shall we say without the written consent of the original owner!! For that matter, there are territories such as Southern Denmark (known to this day in Danish as "Sonderjylland" or Southern Jutland, which during the 19th century were legally deemed to be part of Northern Germany, where to this day, both Danish and German are both legal languages for official documents and whose inhabitants are often completely bilingual:-)

@warsaw_wasraw
What about vice-versa?
lol

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Factually incorrect, Crow!

Germany existed before Poland was even a country (as opposed to a nation or politically unified territory following her official independence in 1918). Teutonic conquerors invaded as far south as Italy and as far west as France while still known as Gaul:-)

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

TheOther, while theft may be deemed relative in hindsight, the fact remains, that from the Livonian Templars on down through the Nazis, the more powerful German territories most certainly DID take over aka had no intention of "returning" much formerly Polish land which was acquired by military redistricting.

Although period documents, even maps (usually barometers of accuracy, since they reflect the present state of geographical location) may vary, the once outsized German Empire (Deutsches Reich) extended into territories nowadays squarely within Poland proper!

@Polonius, that many European cities/capitals have Polish names doesn't reverse the fact that Akwizgran and Monachium do not appear on German atlases, any more than Cracowie or Varsovie never appear on Polish ones because those are the French names ascribed for reasons of pronunciation patterns:-) Toponomy is for sure an interesting study, yet my point before was that of you look at German atlases of Poland, including the Baltic states, one can still see Lodsch in parethesis alongside Łódź, Bromberg side by side with Bydgoszcz, Danzig next to Gdańsk, as well as Wilnius/Vilna, Memel/Klaipeda, Dorpat/Reval etc....

UK, Ireland / Poles revealed to harbour deep hatred against Anglos when they speak in their own language [62]

Afraid they're just beginning to realize it! A harsh lesson, granted.

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Technically accurate, PG!

Long before the "gerrymandered" boundry lines between German lands and historical Polish territory restructured by Hitler, the ancient Teutonic Knights had carved up areas of their own from roughly the current French border all the way east up through the present-day Baltic states and even further. Old maps give us a key there. And any reliable historical atlas of Eastern Europe will of course reveal that nearly every Polish and Baltic city or place name, had a corresponding German one as well:-)

The frontiers between Poland and Germany have changed hands so often, one could easily get dizzy! LOL

UK, Ireland / Poles revealed to harbour deep hatred against Anglos when they speak in their own language [62]

He'll thankfully be out of the picture before too long, and so there's essentially nothing much to worry about:-)

Good riddance to bad rubbish, I always say!!

UK, Ireland / Poles revealed to harbour deep hatred against Anglos when they speak in their own language [62]

Thanks. Luckily, Trump as of yet hasn't a snowball's chance in hell of winning, so Hill's basically a slam dunk:-)

UK, Ireland / Poles revealed to harbour deep hatred against Anglos when they speak in their own language [62]

Sure hope you know what you're all gettin' yourselves into, Tic:-)

UK, Ireland / Poles revealed to harbour deep hatred against Anglos when they speak in their own language [62]

I do!! You??!
:-)

Study / Studying in Lublin on IT without mathematic and physic knowledge? [11]

They probably wouldn't hire a Ukrainian over a newly arrived, non-Polish speaking migrant though, that's part of the difficulty.
It's not too dissimilar from right here in the States!

UK, Ireland / Poles revealed to harbour deep hatred against Anglos when they speak in their own language [62]

Most of the North was already so impovrished under Thatcher, they'd be against anything that smacks of internationalism:-) Can't blame 'em really!

Cameron made lots of promises, I'm sure, which he never kept or could keep. Name me a politico who doesn't and who hasn't:-)

No, the Brexiteers hopped onto a bandwagon whose coachman couldn't quite see straight if front of him, got stuck at the toll gate and now wonders if he can go it alone.

Sorry, gents, it ain't that simple...it never was!!

Study / Studying in Lublin on IT without mathematic and physic knowledge? [11]

Well, at least you know some Polish (albeit imperfectly)!

UK, Ireland / Poles revealed to harbour deep hatred against Anglos when they speak in their own language [62]

Thanks, Atch!

UK, Ireland / Poles revealed to harbour deep hatred against Anglos when they speak in their own language [62]

I agree, jon. Therefore my last post:-)

UK, Ireland / Poles revealed to harbour deep hatred against Anglos when they speak in their own language [62]

This all raises an interesting question for me. As England itself has no "Constitution", doesn't then the Queen have the legal authority to override Ms. May, or would the PM always have the final deciding say as to whether a law will go forward or not? Apropos the current Brexit, couldn't Buckingham Palace technically supercede 10 Downing Street?

Stimulating as the thread has become with Atch's last post, I'm still slightly confused on that point!