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Bratwurst Boy   
26 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

Their little prosperity is not out of thin air and probably doesn't happen w/o Marshall plan funds and the US military presence on their continent for the past 70s.

You just had to come up with this again, didn't you! ;)

But yes, Germany and Europe has alot to be grateful for to the US, especially the Berliners!
We won't forget that...

Germany could bel back to the old tricks of finding lebensraum in 20 years.

Not really...we won't have the people to populate the Lebensraum we already have! ;)

The US is broke and cannot stop them.

Nun ja...sometimes it would had been better if the US had stayed out of inter-european power quarrels in the first place!

Take WWI for expample:

no US meddling on the behalf of GB
Germany wins
no Treaty of Versailles
no Hitler
no WWII
Germany would still have a Kaiser! :)

We would had reached the natural balance in Europe much earlier...
Bratwurst Boy   
26 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

I heard also something about Polish people from them. It was, let's just say, not nice....

No wonder, somehow you make people dislike you...what did you do this time? Again exchanging Bismarck with Hitler???
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
Genealogy / I'm looking for family history information - Martha Forbrich [7]

It's Silesian: wiki-de.genealogy.net/Spezial:Suche?search=Vorbrich&go=Titel

and German: verwandt.de/karten/absolut/vorbrich.html

Silesian family names: wiki-de.genealogy.net/Herkunftsname

...
Hierher gehören nun die schles. Familiennamen
Fellbrich (neben Fellenberg),
Hilzbrich neben Hilsberg,
Hubrich/Hubricht, -brecht neben
Hoberg/Hohberg,
Herbrich/Herbricht,
Herbrig (neben Herberg, Herberger),
Steinbrich (neben Steinberg),
Süßbrich,
Weisbrich/Weissbrich,
Weitzbrich und Zeisbrich (neben Zeisberg, Zeisberger), ja sogar
Vorbrich (neben Vorwerk).

Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

Out of curiosity, what percentage of Germans think like you and would like to see more of a coming together between Germans and Poles?

I think most Germans think that way....we all have become quite fat and content! :)
We prefer good relationships to tensions and tantrums...you know...the quiet, peaceful life.

Prejudices, stereotypes, jokes will continue to exists...Germans have to suffer them, Turks, Poles and everybody else. No reason to get worked up about it regularly....

The one point I have to make with my people though is that most are quite blind concerning Poland. It barely exists on the german radar...and if then mostly because of either the anti-german tabloid press, Kaczynsky tantrums...or car theft, so much is true and that is so wrong.

Germans seem to look left at France and right at Russia...and that's it....

I believe if there would be more of a media presence of Poland in Germany you would climb up the sympathy ladder in Germany quite quickly. Those who are widely known in Germany like Klose and Podolski are already very popular! ;)

PS: Funny thing is that those Germans who once suffered most because of the Poles, who lost their home in what became Poland, the Expellees and their descendants, have often the most interest, knowledge and positive feelings to Poland than those who never met a Pole or have no inkling of Poland whatsoever..

PPS: The next footie EC 2012 can be the chance to change your image in Europe and in Germany...Poland and Ukraine will be in the media 24/7 for weeks! :)

(The world championship 2006 surely helped Germany to change it's image)
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

So maybe you don't need to be concerned about Poland. Its just one country. Although I think German-Polish relations, all things considered historically, are not too bad today.

We are neighbours....we share nearly two millennia history...our people are mixed greatly...it wasn't all bad...Poland has alot of german heritage in their history and vice versa. We share the same interests...our both people want freedom and prosperity...we should be close!

(At least closer than with far away countries whose nice words account for nothing if pushes come to shove)
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

Right.. they were just in China signing all kinds of new agreements. Look at AG Siemens they've done shady things.

That is called business!
If Amis and Anglos getting poor we need new markets...;)
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

You know what makes it so hard for me to understand?
You come only with plattitudes...tell me more about the background, the situation where Germans said these things to you. I can hardly believe:
"He wouldn't shake her hands because she was polish!"

You know that there is a huge anti-polish sentiment in GB because of the mass immigration of Poles looking for work recently.
What do you think about the Brits generally?

Germany has the same global interests as Anglo-Americans.

Nope..we haven't.
Why do you think Washington wants to drag us kicking and screaming to take over more responsibility, pay more, be more active in the NATO and what not, send more soldiers.

We are content with Europe, believe me!

that's why I don't like Germans.

Yeah, that will show them! ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

No, it wasn't.
If it had been it would had spared us the war.

Germany is naturally dominant in Europe since the unification (1875 not 1989). That's a fact you might not like but you can't change.
There had been two wars about either to confine the new mighty kid on the block down on the food chain, behind the old schoolyard bullies UK and France, and later about Germany wanting to get violently on top of the world, much more than it could chew. Both wars were futile in the end.

Now we achieved the more natural, balanced way of things, Germany dominating but in cooperation, not in confrontation...if it stays that way there won't be any more wars ever.

And you can't quite count on the pockets of prosperous, industrious Germany and in turn deny them influence. Also if Germany is the most successfull economy right now you should maybe look more into the "german way" to see what went wrong at home...
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Nigel Farage voice of reason for Poland and EU? [79]

1) He is firmly against the anti-democratic practices within the EU

YAY

2) He loathes Ashton and Van Rompuy for securing positions based on no merit

YAY

3) He provides insight into how we went wrong in the credit crisis

Really! *awes*

4) He values national sovereignty and not merely blind obedience to a supranational entity that has overstepped the palliative that is subsidiarity.

If he has found blind obedience he should tell more about it, I can't find any...

5) He advocates openness, transparency and accountability in democracy.

YAY!
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

No I was making the point that Germany still wants to run Europe, only this time through the back door ........ influencing economical and ultimately political direction through running the EU.

Just take a look at the map...compare the stats...the economies...Germany can't help it. Even if we just snooze Europe get's the flu.

Every small movement of Germany makes big waves in Europe...WE CAN'T HELP IT IF WE WANT TO OR NOT!

And excuse us if we as the biggest nation (besides Russia) and the biggest pay master want to have some say in Europe too...so bad of us! *whips himself*

And be honest and objective here....a more "german" Europe wouldn't be a bad thing. It would be more stable and run smoothly without your english/american bubble-economy philosophies!

We are coming to a crossroads of sorts anyhow...maybe it will come to a split between the more similiar economies in the North and the slacking ones in the South if they don't shape up soon.

Party time is over!

Once again thank you Germany, keep up the good work :-)

Well...thank you! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

they the ones i met, hated me just cause i'm Polish,

Explain please...

So there's an another topic why don't you like foreigners? taking your jobs?

I have no problems to accept foreigners with european background...we have millions of them in Germany for decades (in the case of Poles for centuries).

They adapt and integrate well...becoming first class Germans! :)

I have problems with many non-european immigrants (Kurds, Arabs) though, who don't even want to integrate and adapt but rather demand from us natives to bend to their will so that they can feel more homy. I always wonder why they wait in queues to get a ticket into Germany if it was so much better in their hellhole they came from!

...but that is another topic!
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

Is it really love? Most countries want what other countries have. I wouldn't call it love.

Nah...countries can't love each other in the first place. They can share goals and be allies though;)
This survey was about how the country is viewed generally...more positive or more negative.
Every country has an image in the mind of the people, everywhere...

Poles and Germans get on fine in Berlin, especially the old east.

the germans in the east seem to have something in common with Poland's recent past. there is some common ground. why would they have a negative view of Poland ?

Well, the article says it isn't so.
The worst prejudices have those Germans far away in the West...
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

I've never said you said it i said other Germans,

You said "Germans" and that means all 80 millions of us...but you can't even bring ONE proof!

So I call you a liar!

You don't have to believe me it's true. Don't act like you've never heard about Germans disliking Poles, Russians, Turks or other foreiners.

I don't like most of the foreigners myself...I still wouldn't call you "swine" ;)

I don't know what your beef is actually....do you want to be loved by all 80 million Germans?
Sorry, that will never happen.

And before you complain about the german behaviour, start by yourself. You can't hardly indulge in German-hate and bragg that Poles hate Germans also and demand that Germans love and respect you in return!
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

Yeah...people like everybody else...oh wonder! ;)

Sometimes I think Poles like to have an overly/extremely positive image of themselves and then react with hurt, wonder and agression why not everybody else on this planet falls down blinded by the saintly halo of the marvelous polish people.

(....and then they blame the media...)
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

Frankly I don't believe you!
That a German wouldn't shake a girls hand because she is polish is a flat lie!

And that "Germans" say all these things...well...show us where I said all these things! I'm a German, it should be easy for you to show where I say that Poles are uncivilized swines.

Come on, we are waiting!

That statistic says more than half that don't like us havn't even met a single Polish person, you're very civilized not even giving someone a chance, please don't make me laugh.

You also didn't met 99,999 percent of all Germans but still you are quick to generalize and to "hate" us...ROFL
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

*shrug* I have no idea! :)
Our beautiful, attractive looks? Our friendly, nice, warm behaviour??? Our wit and famous charme???
It could be anything, really...;)
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

BB is a smart cookie! Clearly a well-read guy who relished debates.

Stop that Seanie or I will get red!

Well, no matter what you do there have to be some security measures and they often result in narrow spaces. I was at a similar situation one time - I barely came out alive. And the tragedy that happened is so unfortunate and horrible.

Nun ja...in Berlin for example there never was a tunnel or such security measures, it worked flawlessly even with much more people.

I really blame the hosts and I wish they will be made to pay! The investigations have already started...
And they say that's the end of the love parades! What an end! :(
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

My condolences, BB, on the tragedy in Duisburg.

Well...putting a tunnel in the way of the masses at the love parade was a recipe for desaster!
I don't know what the organizers were thinking. The news say that even the police warned them about it already....

You mean it did not affect Germany in any way? :)

Of course it affected Germany, that's why we are angry that we get the bill presented for other peoples failures! :(
Only because we did more things right and can afford to pay said bill..that is soooo unfair!
The class primus get's punished for being better than the rest...

Anyway, BB I think you are the most rational, smart and funny German i ever came across.

*glows* :)

Instead of defending and attacking back, maybe we should think..hmm, maybe there is something we could do different.

Yeah...As I was saying before that the majority of the Germans quite like you (only a minority doesn't as the poll shows and those who are furthest away) the first posts came in saying.."We hate the Germans even more!"

Like a stupid knee jerk reaction...really, really, stupid.

And if some German who likes Poles and Poland reads these polish answers he will surely rethink his once positive attitude....
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

I want like to thank our German friends for being so very generous and understanding in donating your hard earned money and giving it to our European neighbours so they can continue to party as they did before.......... Well done Germany, keep up the hard work.

Yeah...so unselfish from us! ;)
Nothing beats keeping your backyard markets in order....

I just don't like other countries telling me how I should live in my country.

Well, maybe you should just shut up and listen...you might not need to beg Germany for support if you would do more things the german way!

But it seems some prefer their party-life to dignity and pride...
After all the "english way" (losing brand names, selling out your manufacturing base, banking bubble, housing bubble, credit crunch, general economy bubble) was soooo successful, wasn't it!

the UK aren't in the E.U monetary Union so we don't have to pay,

Rofl, boy are you wrong...you pay all the time, nearly as much as Germany but you don't have the same say innit...how SMART of you. Say THANK YOU to your politicians for that achievement! ;)

...
It emerged yesterday that Britain could have to pay £650million towards a Greek bailout if the International Monetary Fund steps in to stop the euro collapsing.

Diplomatic sources said the possible £20billion bailout of Greece would involve a 'substantial' contribution from the IMF of up to £13billion, with the rest coming from countries in the eurozone.

Britain is not a member of the eurozone but the IMF's £13billion would include around £650million from the UK.

Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

No No, i don't think so, read Italian newspapers, Italians are fed up with as they put it, fat, loud, German tourists.

Heh:)
They depend on german tourists! Half of their economy depends on german tourists! They LOVE them...:):):)

Just look at the survey and weep!

PS: German tourists are aktually quite well liked...
time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1820358,00.html

...
Following the Japanese as most-liked tourists were the Germans, British and Canadians.
...
The survey was taken by employees in 4,000 hotels in Germany, the U.K., Italy, France, Canada and the U.S

It seems everybody likes us...but you! Wonder why...;)
It seems to be a polish problem, not a german one!
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

I don't imagine many Germans talk about Poles that much, right BB?

That's why I don't get the "Germans hate us" conclusion of some here...it's just not true!
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

but these statistics are false, they ask a few thousand people, and not in all parts of the country that doesn't mean that that's how it really is.

ROFL
It rather seems you only want to believe things which fit your world view:

This is all bs, look at the statistic the younger ones who are supposed to be more open and tolerant are worse than the older generation. This week an Italian man came to my job, we chated about Europe for a while, he told me his dislike for Germans, so i guess Germans aren't exactly loved by everyone either.

You hadn't had any problems to generalize from ONE Italian you once met!

Well...the BBC asked thousands of people, they gathered the stats and that was that...take it to them if they all lied (just to annoy you).

;)
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

Lemme see...
Well this survey gives a "We love Germany"-feeling in Russia of 61% and the "We don't like Germany" with 11%.

Seems we can put Moscow on the love-axis! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

There already is something of that kind.....Berlin (we love us), Paris (French love us), Madrid (Spanish love us)...Rome (Italians love us)...I dunno about Moscow...what about Warsaw???

:)
Bratwurst Boy   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

This week an Italian man came to my job, we chated about Europe for a while, he told me his dislike for Germans, so i guess Germans aren't exactly loved by everyone either.

Germany is the most popular country! :)

And the Italians just love us! :)
(77% positive, you must have found one of the 8% negative - or he just wanted to be polite to you)

Only France (84% and South Korea 82% love us more)
Closely followed by Spain 74%, Portugal 72 % and Brazil 70%....;)