convex
15 Feb 2010
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UK was the place to be because of higher wages. Instead of staying here in Poland and being a teacher for 1800 a month, you could go to the UK and can fish for three times that.
Again, there weren't floods of Poles into Sweden and Finland, the jobs just didn't pay as well.
Germany issued half a million work permits last year. They're not shy about it...BUT, wages are lower in Germany than in the UK...
Uh, Italians in Germany, Greeks in Germany, Spanish in France, Turks in Germany, Canadians in the US....
Why don't they make it? Because they couldn't go to university? Because they couldn't study something useful?
No, you seem to confusing "getting easier" with impossible. It's getting easier for people who studied worthless subjects to get jobs paying a comfortable wage. Here, you need to move to where the jobs are, it's still a pain to commute. In the UK, you have the option of living a hundred miles from where you work because you have the infrastructure available to get from point a to point b in a timely manner.
What stronger argument is needed? People can live comfortably here, it's not easy, but it's an option, it's not fate. It's more difficult than in the UK, Germany, France, Scandinavia, but it is possible. I'm not trying to paint some picture of a magical fairy land, but to say that one doesn't have the option to live comfortably here is ridiculous. It's getting easier by the year to live comfortably.
Anyway, I need to get back to keeping the proletariat down.
Because they couldnt make it in Poland, UK was the place to be at the time still is for many.
UK was the place to be because of higher wages. Instead of staying here in Poland and being a teacher for 1800 a month, you could go to the UK and can fish for three times that.
No its becasue they didnt have the opportunity in Poland, also the entry levels - the UK and Ireland didnt impose restrictions all the others did. Once Poland joined the EU in they flooded.
Again, there weren't floods of Poles into Sweden and Finland, the jobs just didn't pay as well.
Germany had restrictions, other wise they would have gone there, because they couldnt make it in Poland.
Germany issued half a million work permits last year. They're not shy about it...BUT, wages are lower in Germany than in the UK...
No, it was a viable alternative to living in poverty in Poland. You think 1,000,000 + just went for more cash? they went becasue they had no option..... Im getting tired of this please provide other examples of countries citizens emmigrating by the millions in order for work. You still thinking Americans in bahrain????
Uh, Italians in Germany, Greeks in Germany, Spanish in France, Turks in Germany, Canadians in the US....
Wrong again thats reality, of course there will be some that make it, but the majority do not.
Why don't they make it? Because they couldn't go to university? Because they couldn't study something useful?
Ahh ha so youre admitting it. Give it up dude, you aint going to win this one.
Of course they do but the point is even if they didnt they can live quite well without financial issues, in Poland thats not the case.
So youre basically admitting defeat, good about bloody time. Thats the sound of innevitability, (Agent Smith - Matrix).
Of course they do but the point is even if they didnt they can live quite well without financial issues, in Poland thats not the case.
So youre basically admitting defeat, good about bloody time. Thats the sound of innevitability, (Agent Smith - Matrix).
No, you seem to confusing "getting easier" with impossible. It's getting easier for people who studied worthless subjects to get jobs paying a comfortable wage. Here, you need to move to where the jobs are, it's still a pain to commute. In the UK, you have the option of living a hundred miles from where you work because you have the infrastructure available to get from point a to point b in a timely manner.
Convex argues well but he is wide of the mark with the above, unless he has some stronger arguments up his sleeve.
What stronger argument is needed? People can live comfortably here, it's not easy, but it's an option, it's not fate. It's more difficult than in the UK, Germany, France, Scandinavia, but it is possible. I'm not trying to paint some picture of a magical fairy land, but to say that one doesn't have the option to live comfortably here is ridiculous. It's getting easier by the year to live comfortably.
Anyway, I need to get back to keeping the proletariat down.