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i think that USA making same mistake as Hitler`s Germany did, opening many fronts in the same time, of course under the pressure of its military complex and its entire economy after all. USA currently actively play game in Latin America, Europe, Asia, Eurasia, Near East and Northern Africa. It already faces difficulties in Eurasia, Near East and Europe (Ukraine, former Yugoslavia). In case of more pressure on any of those critical points, USA may in the same time directly militarily confront with Russia, China and Iran. Its obvious that these three players coordinates being aware of the development of situation. In my opinion, it may prove to be disaster for USA, turning it from global player into the regional or maximally continental power, in a blink of an eye.

Not to say that these three players aren`t only USA problem in global arena.

Now, USA strategists are aware of this and they giving their best to isolate Russia. Then again, Russia is aware of the game. All players knows the game.

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Don`t forget that there are native Russians in Ukraine, majority in eastern parts of country. In the end, what that even has with Putin`s attitude? What that even has with attitude of official Russia?

What would you said if Russia for example, due to its weakness, ignored those native Russians in Crimea? Would you be happy to see how NATO troops entering in conflict with them and killing them in order to support pro-NATO/EU regime in Kiev?

When i analyze things in my life, i giving my best, i hope, that i comprehend what is elemental justice. Then, i constantly learning how is this world hypocritical, how are people different. Am i naive. Are those who are greed and selfish more intelligent then those who seek to behave according to universal moral values


In connection to the bigger USA military presents in Poland.

in the light of events in Ukraine i contemplated what, in strategic sense means, massive support of the Polish patriotic political organization to Serbians. Here is what i concluded:

1. Polish patriots using Serbian question (Kosovo situation) to underline how is Silesia Poland. It means that most of the Polish patriots recognize threat from the west of Europe in case with Silesia and they sending message that Poland may shift its politics if threatened. Meaning, public support to Serbians on the streets may turn to be actual change of Polish politics in the sense that Poland deflect from NATO and EU.

2. Polish patriots are aware of the strategic importance of Serbia for Poland. Only via Serbia Poland securing access to the warm seas. So, in time when official Poland can`t openly side with Serbs, right winged organizations securing that Poland giving clear signals to the Serbs- to support them; Then, this way Poland giving signals to the partners in NATO and EU that won`t silently accept destruction of Serbia and German/Turkish domination in the region.

3. Supporting Serbians, Poland, via right winged groups, sending signal to Russia that is Poland ready for compromise, in order to secure its access to the warm seas. It means that they expected this development in Ukraine being aware of the Russian dominance in the Black See. Via Serbia, Poland wants to secure its dominance, at least in Adriatic. Presents of the right winged Serbian organizations among Polish patriots is signal to Russia that Serbians wants to support Polish domination in Adriatic and on Balkan. Also, presents of the right winged Serbians among Poles sending signal to Russia that would Serbs secure neutrality of Poland and that Polish domination in the region won`t act against Russia.

4. Polish patriots expected increase of NATO presents in Poland and expect complications. Via Serbians they sending signals to Russia but also to the Czechs, Belorussians, Bulgarians and Slovaks that Poland needs support from other Slavs in any situation that may occur. Polish patriots don`t trust to NATO and EU. They don`t trust neither to Russia but that`s why they as their priority provided Serbian support. Here, Poles using Serbs as shield from possible Russian betrayal.

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Putin? He is just pawn in the hands of powerful magnates, who belongs to the financial circles that compete with some other financial circles. Today Putin, tomorrow who knows who.


i don`t know what Russia have in military sense but i do know that Russia isn`t under NATO occupation.

USA as a state is very close to be simple annihilated. i don`t know how you don`t see that. USA disturbing balance on the globe and provoke entire civilizations, old civilizations- Chinese, Indian, native American (speaking of Brazil), Slavic. If any of these four civilization enter in open military conflict against USA, other three would follow in a unavoidable chain reaction because all are threatened by the same opposition, aware, that are just next target for USA. Building its domination over the world, USA created situation that inevitable leads to fall of USA rule.

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wait, USA and NATO act as so called world policeman. You actually complaint how Russia dare to act as obstacle to the world policeman?


yes, what do the Amerikans have to lose here anyway? If war escalates Poles would lose Poland and what would lose Americans? Its shield called Poland. That would lose Americans. That`s all what would America lose. That`s why America invested in its shield called Poland.

Alright, Americans would also starting to lose if gets some Russian ICBM on its territory. But, let us be realistic. USA won`t risk to lose New York or Washington for Poland. Let us be honest and realistic. So, Poles have to suffer for the good of America and, NATO have to help to Poles to suffer.

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parts of my own country are under NATO occupation. German NATO contingent dominates and we experiencing all what goes with occupation. NATO is global problem, so called world policeman. But, what can we do. Its just tool of the powerful financial circles and magnates.

Anyway, i started to lose hope in global peace. Feel kind of pessimism. Too bad with all those stars that are available to humanity if just prevail critical stages in its development. What a pity

Even more i starting to lose hope that would Slavs as unique human civilization survive, even if we all avoid global conflict or even in case that global conflict occurs and some humans survive. Among those who survive, hardly that may survive critical mass of the Slavs that would be able to continue to compete for survival of its civilization, culture and languages. Simple, we don`t have chance. If global conflict happens, main battlefield would be all countries in Central and Eastern and South-Eastern Europe.

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again you with your NATO/EU propaganda. Well, what can you do. You was small when you was indoctrinated by their spin doctors


in fact i still have hope.


you see Harry, you are deeply wrong and know little about Poland.

Here is the video from the last year`s pro-Serbian demonstrations in Poland. You would note, especially in the last 10 minutes of the video, how was spoken against NATO and how was EU criticized, in middle of Warsaw.

16.02.2013 WARSZAWA: III MARSZ KOSOVO JEST SERBSKIE

Velika je Poljska!


Brate, you must understand. Its not easy to Poles. They are honorable people to the bottom of their being and they have negative experience with both- west of Europa and Russia. BDW, in case with Polish-Russian conflict, Serbs thinks that Russia bare greater responsibility.

And now USA sends troops to Poland for drills. Those are foreign soldiers on Polish ground and Poles always and regularly had bad luck with foreign army on their lands. Its practically occupation of Poland. Who knows what may happen next. Another partition of Poland? This in Ukraine looks exactly like partition, don`t you think?

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i don`t think that number of conventional troops means anything. When comes the moment, at call of Russia, millions of Chinese soldiers would be stationed in Russia. Chinese must. They themselves knows that they are next target, so they must help Russia.

What i see as problem, is that, after war that most probably coming, i simply can`t imagine survival of the Slavic civilization (if any human survive, after all). i see destroyed last bonds that exist among Slavs. i see Slavs ruled by foreigners, from the East, South and West of the globe. Actually, not ruled but absolutely and permanently assimilated. We are in stage after which Slavic civilization, culture and languages goes into museums.

Simple, things are arranged that way that is main stage of the war in Europe stationed in Eastern Europe, in Slavic world. As usually, in last 2000 years


see. That`s what i mean.

That`s what goes for Slavs. To forget and exist to satisfy necessities of foreigners. For museum. We Slavs are obsolete concept

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you must be right, while i must be wrong. i see how is Slavic civilization weak and dying out but i feel that i must continue to resist. Crazy. i know

Soon, would be over. Nations would swallow last from the people and would be silence and, peace of course.

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anti NATO Poland

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People, let us be realistic. USA troops in Poland may lead to destabilization of the country. Does USA play same role in Poland as it played (play) in Ukraine?

Ukraine lost Crimea thanks to USA. What would Poland lose? Silesia?

Beware Poles. THEY attacking Poland. BUT, Racowie are with Poland, as always. Polska! Holly Sarmatian Mother!

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every single hostile foreign soldier that comes to Slavic world, would be legitimate Russian and in general Slavic target. Its simple as that. Slavic civilization is above NATO or EU interests.

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mistake. Look what is stance of Slovakia. Slovakia seams to be more independent country then Poland. Government of Poland works against interests of Poles. Letting massive NATO troops in Poland at this moment is one more proof of this.

No need for NATO troops in Slovakia vis-a-vis Ukraine: Slovak president

Xinhua


Foreign troops out of Slavia! Let Slavs deal themselves with their own problems

We Serbians has our own ideas for Slavic world. We already got support of Slovak and Czech intelligentsia for our intentions for revival of Commonwealth as Polish Pilsudski suggested. We already provided Russian and Chinese understanding for this. There are more and more representative of Polish elite that understand Serbian stance, not to say that great deal of Polish public support Serbs and pressuring Polish government to give up in taking part in partition of Serbia and to annul its Kosovo recognition.

and, now this. Polish government complicates situation even more.

Spot this >>

"Russia will respond if Russian interests are attacked"

B92, RT.com 11:44


Can you now imagine how Serbian loyalty to Poland looks in the eyes of Russians. Serbs looks to them quite idiotic. How can we Serbs defend Poland when Polish government that successfully works against Poland.

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it depend how you looking at it.

You must be aware of one very important thing. That is, if we had (you would note that i said HAD!), global `peace` in Europe, in next 50-100 years entire Europe (Russia excluded) would be peacefully Germanized and Anglo-Saxonized. Its a fact. Simple, Eastern Europe (read Slavs) are (were!) overrun by wealthiest and technologically more advanced west of Europe and USA that also sided with rich Islamic factor, all in order to establish its dominance over the continent (read Slavic resources). In it, basic tactics of the NATO, EU and Islamic league was advance by the tactics of local wars and crisis, with the slow capturing the main strategic points.

Now, Russia consolidates economically and technologically. Of course, with the enormous Chinese support. Also, India and Brazil as two new emerging powers also have interest to support Russia.

So, when it was come to Yugoslavia and Serbia, Russia just warned and, was not ready to retaliate. In Georgia and then in Syria, Russia rises to defends its interests. By that time, Islamic world was already recognized Russian and Chinese arguments and gave signal that is ready to retreat. Also, Islamic world was weakened by its internal problems.

Then, NATO and EU, recognizing critical moment of strategic development, moved to destabilize Ukraine. Too late. Russia was more then ready. So, we now have situation that Russia moved from defensive to offensive stance. Now, i clearly see that, Russia is deadly serious. It already gave alternative to the Eastern Europeans, underlining that its not only west of Europe, USA and co. who promising progress.

So, you can say that is Russian invasions a bit exaggerated. It is more counter attack to the NATO and EU aggressive moves. But, in any case, global peace in Europe and just local conflicts are past. Things becoming ugly. i assure you, one wrong move of the Germany, Britain or France, could immediately initiate Russian respond. Be sure that USA won`t risk global nuclear war if any of western European powers gets some Russian ICBM or some other missile as warning shot that would vaporize some target. No, USA magnates and bankers aren`t ready to lose everything. They would rather negotiate with Russia, when they see new situation.

Things changing fast in the world. Changing itself, Russia contribute to those changes massively. So, i wouln`t use word `invasion` but, for sure, Russians are coming, while Germanization and Anglo-Saxonization retreat.

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Let us all hope that corruption and idiotic politicians won`t prevail.

Plus, have in mind that only time in history when Poland beaten Russia was when Serbians were strong and first line of Polish military. Today, speaking in general, not that Serbs are weak but they are inundated to the maximum. Ironically, some stupid Poland`s politicians helped in devastation of Serbia.

well, in few decades, if all goes right, Serbs would get another erection. some already have

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in any case, Poland continues to aggravate its relations with Russia, in the spirit of official EU/NATO policy

Poland calls off Poland-Russia Forum of Regions

Warsaw Voice

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We live in era of globalization. Sometimes we can choose how would THEY globalize us, sometimes we can`t. Sometimes we miss the opportunity to react and THEY turn us from Slavs into the slaves

Merged: Support of former Polish FM Radek Sikorski for former Serbian FM reveals `Sarmatian connection` ?

an interesting article incites me to an interesting conclusion. Possibility or rather necessity.

This should be interesting to all who follow Polish and global politics. From the Sikorsi`s interview to Belgrade daily Politika..

Poland's ex-FM: Jeremic among best candidates for top UN job

Source: B92, Politika Monday, February 15, 2016 | 15:03
b92/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2016&mm=02&dd=15&nav_id=97050



Vuk Jeremic


You remember this man, Vuk Jeremic, young diplomat with promising career, former Serbian FM, former president of the UN General Assembly and candidate for UN secretary-general.

In any case, these kind of articles would become more and more often and more and more viable, at a time when Poland invest tremendous effort to regain its independence and consolidate Her power.

former Polish FM Radek Siroski

Anyway, this is the thread about `Sarmatian connection` and about unimaginable maze of global politics.

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yes, old continent scream for purification. Like in the time when Russia purified Europe from Napoleon and Hitler

;)

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things would change, soon. Idiots would fall down. Just trust in Poland`s potentials.

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you know for that old saying- `that what don`t kill you, makes you stronger`. Meaning, if Poland survive and avoid destine of Yugoslavia and Ukraine, there would be real chances that Poland truly dominate in Europe.

Ironically, it could happen that Russia finish `dirty job` and actually clear path for the Poland`s climb to the stars. If just Poles grab the opportunity and if just `friends` of Poland fails to prevent that.

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crap. All crap. Every power always have its reason. It is so since the beginning of time. We all know it. What is problem here, that is Poland`s constant role of the billiard ball. Many countries are just billiard balls.

Let us be realistic. Its time for Poland to be truly independent, people. As we know, that would be possible only with new Commonwealth. Take destine in your own hand and stop cry as eternal servant. That`s it.

i fu** all of you who don`t understand this simple truth.

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is it really possible that would Poles, again and again, accept role of the cannon fodders for the sake of Britain, France and USA and how ironically, today, for Germany, too

Aren`t you aware that Russia didn`t move against Poland. This is much bigger. It would be like with Napoleon or Hitler, but on the double. If Russia moves to war this time, there would be erased everything what is obstacle.

Don`t you see that world change? That in Yugoslavia, Libya, Serbia, Syria, etc, etc,.. all that was just prelude to big sh**. World powers compete. That`s it. You think that Russia don`t have agreements with China, India and Brazil, when decided to make this giant step. You know what`s going on? USA and western Europe grabbed too much of power and other would powers decided to stop them. Money flow in the world would be re-arranged.

What Poland`s preparations? you got only genocide and humiliation from Germanics in history and Polish government wants to sacrifice Poland for them??!! if fails to declare neutrality in this situation, government of Poland is nothing but criminal on its own people.

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what a word. Today`s Russia is definitely more democratic then USA or western European countries. Interesting development


on the bright side, after the nuclear war, humans would maybe evolve to have two penises and two vaginas ;)

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you know people. i contemplated a little on those Russia`s claims about Neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine who gains more and more power. We can note that official Russia speak of it and ordinary people in Russian media. What is important in this story, great deal of public in Slavic countries, if not even in Europe and world, would agree with it.

So, i contemplated, what this means. Does this speak of Russia`s intentions, that about Neo-Nazi power in Ukraine.

In my opinion that means that are we on the edge of the open Russian-German confrontation. In any sense. Russia obviously came to conclusion that in this moment, Germany must be stooped. Mark my words. Any moment we can expect open Russia`s accusation of Germany for new hostile movement onto the Slavic world. Germany would be accused to be leading hawk of those forces that tend to establish control over Central and Eastern Europe and again on the account of Slavs. After those accusations, for Russia, things may turn into the Slavic-Germanic confrontation, what would be kind of holly war. i think, that is the ideological background of future Russia`s actions. Russia preparing its own and general public for this situation to come.

It seams that those who said that Germany made its last mistake with taking part in destruction of Yugoslavia, were not right. No, it was mistake of Germany but, Russia waited. Ukraine would most probably prove to be last German mistake.

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on the contrary to you, my virtual friend, i giving my best to be objective. So, i see several rising empires on the scene. Those are USA, EU, China and Russia.

Speaking of Europe, seams to me, all countries from Baltic to Balkan and Black see are on menu. It would be how Empires decide, considering that are all of us who are objects of partition, quite incompetent to take care for our own business.

Let me show you one article, few years old. You can see how man said great truth.

Plight of Central European Nations in the Wake of Western Oder Demise

By Igncy Nowopolski, on August 28th, 2008
agonist.org/plight_of_central_european_nations_in_the_wake_of_western_oder_demise


See, man spoke about new Commonwealth. So lesson is, if we fail to form Commonwealth, alternative is partitions of all countries in the Central and South-Eastern Europe between the rising empires.

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Barney, i absolutely agree with you here.

In fact, meddling in internal affairs in Ukraine, in a way how it was done, we can even say how USA interrupted democratic processes in country. Its the problem for itself.

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actually, i suggested new Commonwealth. Ask old members of the forum. Russia was excluded from it. No, not because i don`t like Russians but, because of practical reasons. On the first place, Russia has enough resources to be self-sustainable economic system that has real perspectives in world that globalize and where mass-economy dominates.

So, i supported Pilsudski`s idea of the Commonwealth and promoted it here, for the years already. But, some `wise` people ridiculed any discussions about it here on this forum.

Now, you know what is alternative to the Pilsudski`s idea? This. This what happening to Ukraine. That what already happened to Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia, partition of Serbia. Poland is next. You know why? Because, when one don`t have its own business, one must be part of others peoples business. For you are the anvil or you are the hammer. EU and NATO leading powers hold Poland that strong, that Polish politicians aren`t capable to do anything good for Poland.

and, don`t blame Russia. NATO and EU leading powers grabbing whatever they can. In a situation when people from Baltic to Balkan to the Black see, don`t have Commonwealth as the guarantor of their interests, don`t be surprised that Russia also wants its share on open market.

In fact, don`t blame neither the USA, neither the EU leading powers, too. Why should we blame them? They taking care for themselves, for their interests. Blame all people form Baltic to Balkan and Black see for their incompetence and inability to do something just for themselves.

Blame whoever you want but, don`t blame Serbians. We resisted. We didn`t want blindly to obey to the magnates and bankers of the USA and western Europe and also, we didn`t, no matter in agony, accept to serve Russia. For such a choices my people was crucified, demonized in mass media, isolated and abandoned. But, at least we resisted. Serbia didn`t suffer in silence

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are you people sure that Tusk isn`t lunatic who simple works for USA, Britain and France?

i started to have positive opinion about him but now, i`m reconsidering my stance about him.

That`s the good one. he, he, you Jews are so humorous people.

Muscovites call for invasion of Ukraine

The Telegraph
Howard Amos in Moscow / 6:55PM GMT 02 Mar 2014

Russians take part in a demonstration to support Putin's decision to send Russian troops in the Crimea

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That`s exactly how Nikola Tesla started his carrier in USA. He was selling himself as cheap physical worker, just to survive.


well, let`s not compare Poland and Germany. Its not Poles who looted Germany several times but the opposite and its not Poles who committed genocide on Germans but the opposite. Poland`s position is historically worse. But, there are positive signals and signs of Poland`s vitality.

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Poland Ranked Best for Business in East Europe and Central Asia

By Piotr Skolimowski Jan 22, 2014
bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-21/poland-ranked-best-for-business-in-east-europe-and-central-asia.html