Language / "Pan" or "Ty" - how people address each other in Poland? [55]


There's still another form which I don't think has been mentioned here, namely the use of Pan with 2nd person singular as in. Weź pan stąd tego psa!

or Daj pan spokój! It has a touch of impatience and irreverence.

Language / Beginner learner of Polish having trouble with nouns - they change as well as numbers? [27]


Should be urodzin. Nom. is urodziny (hard "n").
If it were a soft "n" as in zadanie then it would be zadań.

Language / Beginner learner of Polish having trouble with nouns - they change as well as numbers? [27]


literally kręcić means to turn or screw but in slang it means to fancy something. Koszykówka mnie nie kręci = Basketball ain't my cuppa tea or Basketball turns me off or I'm not much for basketball.

It can also mean to hobnob, hang out, flirt or be in an ifnromal relationship with someone: Mirek od dawna z nią kręci = Mirek has been hanging out with her for quite some time.

Ja cię kręcę is a slang expression of surórpise reminiscent of Goodness me or Oh my gosh but not quite as strong as holy sh*t or Bl**dy hell!!

History / 13 of December - the anniversary of MARTIAL LAW in Poland [48]


Heaven protect us from Jasnogród! Good thing they've been put away in mothballs for at least the next 8 years! And the ultra-Jasnogrodians (ZL, SLD, SdRP, UP, Demokraci, UW, UD, ROAD, etc.) have been laid to rest for good!

Amen!
BTW it's Ciemnogród, not Ciemnogrod.

Stick to the topic

Language / "Pan" or "Ty" - how people address each other in Poland? [55]


Not true! The grammatical equivalent of vous and Sie is 2nd personal plural wy which is used to address several familiar people -- family, friends, etc.. Before the war and on into the post-war years it was used when addressing an adult inferior, for instance a citydweller holidaying in the countryside. Rather than using"pan" (originally lord) to a peasant smallholder, he might say instead: "Gospodarzu, może macie trochę świeżych jaj?" As a reflex of Russian, which uses 2nd personal plural as the usual formal form of address, Polish commies addressed each other publicly with "Towarzyszu, nie było Was na ostatnim zebraniu." A joke goes with that, where the party member replies: "Gdybym wiedział, że ostatnie to bym przyszedł z dziećmi i teściami!"

Re using Pan with Christian names, that is simialr to the Spanish, eg Don Pedro = Panie Piotrze. The formal form of address Pan is likewise similar to the Spanish Usted (short for Vuestra Merced = Your Grace).

Language / Beginner learner of Polish having trouble with nouns - they change as well as numbers? [27]


Są trzy jabłka. Jest pięć jabłek.

News / IBM fears racist attacks on employees on Poland's independence day [63]


Dunno if this has already appeared somewhere on PF, but President Duda's office last week said he would not be attending the Nationalist March nor staging a counter-march of his own the way Komoruski did.

History / 13 of December - the anniversary of MARTIAL LAW in Poland [48]

To the PO losers and their flunkies, brown-nosers and hangers-on EVERYTHING IS KACZYŃSKI'S FAULT! Pile-up on the motorway, inclement weather, local team's defeat, flu epidemic -- Kaczyński is to blame! (LOL!)

Life / Where to find for a cheap price for Polish Soplica vodka? Which company produce it? [4]


Russian Standard Group has been Soplics owner since 2013. it is one of the oldest Polish vodka varieties and my favourite for brandy blending.

Soplica's (typo)

History / 13 of December - the anniversary of MARTIAL LAW in Poland [48]

Merged: Czesław Kiszczak, Mr Poland Martial Law, is dead

Czesław Kiszczak, a life-long operative of Poland's Soviet-installed regime, has died of natural causes, his widow reported on Thursday. A two-year suspended sentence for his role in masterminding martial law went into effect earlier this year after his appeal had been rejected. From his earliest days he was a loyal reimist and enemy of the Polish nation and was engaged in fabricating lies about Polish freedom-fighters who had voluntarily returned from the West after the war. He concocted fake biographies for them claiming they were "imperialist spies". Michnik, who reviled a true Polish patriot Col. Kukliński, called Kiszczak "a man of honour" which says loads about both those gents (ie Michnik and Kiszczak).

thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/227738,Architect-of-Polands-communist-era-martial-law-Kiszczak-dies

Language / "Pan" or "Ty" - how people address each other in Poland? [55]


No, it is: "Dzień dobry Panie Jacku, wybiera się Pan do śródmieścia?"

News / EU Predicts Poland's Economy Will Expand at Bloc's Fastest Pace This Year [37]

Merged: EC predicts Polish 3.5% yearly GNP growth in 2015-2017

Rzeczpospolilta on Thursday reported the EC predicitng Poland's GNP growth this year at 3.5% and ditto for 2016 and 2017. The EU average in the national-currency zone is expected to be 1.9% and in the eurozone 1.5% - once again attesting to PiS' wisdom to stick to the good ol' złoty. Tusk in 2008 wanted Poland to adopt the € in 2010 which would have meant getting dragged into the recession. Polish unemployment now just below 10% is predicted to drop to 6.8% in 2015, slightly below the record low recorded in 2008.

ww4.rp.pl/Gospodarka/311059922-Europa-odzyskuje-wigor.html

News / Stronger Russia, safer Poland, in world that globalize - is this be truth? [53]


But the Saudis are anti-ISIS. Rarely in life is there a 100% win-win situation. Most everything has its down side.

News / Stronger Russia, safer Poland, in world that globalize - is this be truth? [53]

[Moved from]: Saudis help Poland to become independent of Russian oil.

There was very good news in today's Rzeczpospolita. Polish refiner Lotos began importing Saudi crude in September and now Orlen and another Polish refiner are poised to follow suit. The oil is of better quality (lower sulphur content) and more reasonably price than what Russian has been supplying. Russia's Rosneft is furious and has accused the Saudis of using dumping prices. The low world oil prices are also hitting the Russian economy hard, because other than "little green men" and vodka the Rooskies have little more than energy raw materials to export.

News / Don't read "Gazeta Wyborcza" Polish newspaper -- wPolityce.pl [83]


No-one is saying that promoting Polish entreprenership should be the government's sole preoccupation but it should certainly be among their priorities.
Like Merkel said yesty "The 'Made in Germany' label remains a symbol of German quality regardless of the VW affair." A Poland brand signifying high quality at a reasonable price is not something to be ignored.

Poland should evolve away from being mainly a pool of cheap manpower and bargain-basement assembly facilties for foreign-owend and foreign-designed products into the realm of indigenous design and ownership.

But the demographic crisis must also be tackled and the 500 zł allowance is one way of doing that. It can be paid for by taxing banks and large-scale retailers.

News / Don't read "Gazeta Wyborcza" Polish newspaper -- wPolityce.pl [83]


And do you agree that huge foreign corporations are not basically benefactors of Poland and remaining mankind but insatiably greedy exploiters sucking the life blood out of every nation they get hold of. They do provide a few peripheral benefits (underpaid jobs, tecnological expertise often already outdated in their home countries), but the price paid for these is extremely high indeed. Creating and promoting resilient, dynamic, indigenously Polish entrepreneurship should be a government priority although it hasn't been in previous governments so far. But that task will be all the more daunting since the all-interfering Brussels bureacracy (on the leash of the big multinationals) will impose all their restrictive rules, regulations and procedures to stop that happening and uphold foreign corporative hegemony.

News / Stronger Russia, safer Poland, in world that globalize - is this be truth? [53]


But what you call "normal (Russian) human beigns" are blindly supporting an aggressively dictatorial monster in exactly the same way as Germans cheered Hitler. The Anscluß of Austria and the annexation of Crimea were welcomed with the same kind of public enthusiasm. The Russian people seem mesmerised by pint-sized quasi-tsar Vlad. With such a country it is diffciutl to find any common ground.

News / Don't read "Gazeta Wyborcza" Polish newspaper -- wPolityce.pl [83]


You can call it manipulation or whatever you like. The fact remains that every decent government's prime duty is to protect its own country's interests not those of foreign interlopers and bloodsuckers, Unfortunately too many govrnments (first and foremost the PO clique) were on the leash (and take) and let alien marketing forces get away with murder. That has to be stopped. Only the government of the United Right is in a positon to do so. You haven't answered whether the Brit Bullies are getting a kickback for their lobbying or just being "useful idiots" in the service of big foreign capital.

News / Don't read "Gazeta Wyborcza" Polish newspaper -- wPolityce.pl [83]


So many options are available. Foreign chain stores that won't cooperate are free to leave and fleece people elsewhere. And good riddance! Over the past 26 years enough Poels have learnt the ropes amd have accunualted adequate captial so the departure of foreign bloodsuckers could actually faciliate and catalyse the rise of indigenous Polish chain retailers.

A law can be enacted obliging whoesalers to sell at the same price to corner shops as to big chains, and that WOULD level the playing field.

The possibilities are endless despite all the ranting and whinging by the poor, frustrated losers. That's all they can do fortunately is sob, badmouth, take the p*ss, nitpick and whine. And the Brit Bullies and their brown-nosers are now free to extol and defend the big losers! LOL!

News / Stronger Russia, safer Poland, in world that globalize - is this be truth? [53]


And Russia fights to keep the non-Russian nations within the Russian Federation although they should be granted their freedom and independence from the Kremlin. Russia fights to retain control of illegally annexed Crimea and has never apologised for sending troops and hardware into Ukraine to undermine its stability. And Russia is fighting through propaganda, blackmail and harassment to prevent sovereign states entering whatever defensive alliances they see fit and opposes NATO bases and troops on its borders. But NATO countries have every right to oppose a Russian military build-up on the borders of those independent countries. The bottom line is that Russia should be kept at a distance, neutralised and saddled with incapaciotating sanctions until they not only return Crimea to Ukraine but fully reimburse that country for the destruction of human lives and property their aggression had caused.

Russia is the eternal enemy, NATO -- the eternal champion of human freedom!

Genealogy / Czugala / Bukowski. Father's side of family is Polish. [12]


One has no way of knowing who provided the caption. He could well have mixed things up or may not have personally known the individuals depicted.

News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]


In the US when a party wins it places its own epople in positions of power. Since, for the first time, one party is able to rule independently, that should be the case here as well. Unlike a loyal oppostion, the poor losers are whinging, nitpicking and fault finding rather than putting their own mucked-up house in order. And they should apologise for i.a. hijacking people's retirement nest-egg (OFE) to shore up their budget deficit. That will be long rememebred by Polish voters.

Genealogy / Czugala / Bukowski. Father's side of family is Polish. [12]


Precisely!

News / Don't read "Gazeta Wyborcza" Polish newspaper -- wPolityce.pl [83]


He used the term "dostawcy", so I presume he meant "wholesalerrs btu maybe also manufacturers. You'd have to ask him to know for sure. BTW, since you seem so knowledgeable, what kind of profit margin prevails in Poland amongst manufacturers, wholeslaers and retailers? Is it comparable to what you have in other countries?

Food / Best Polish Potato Variety for Mashing [67]


A few years ago no-one in Poland had heard of sweet potatoes or yams, but now you can find them in major supermarkets. They're sometimes called bataty in Polish.

Language / Polish keyboard incompatibility issues [11]


The Polish Typist's Keyboard 214 may be difficult to find, since copy-cat Poles generally use the clumsy "cowboy" (American) keyboard requiring time-consuming double-typing each time any of the 9 Polish accented letters (ą, ę, ć, ł, ń, ó, ś, ź and ż) needs to be typed. For upper case triple-typing is required! You can order a Polska 214 COD at: sprzedaz@laptopykomputery.pl

Mr Andrzej Dziubosz there speaks good English. Their phone No. is:
(32) 723 2020.

Food / Best Polish Potato Variety for Mashing [67]


For my penance I have said five Hail Marys and am providing the following info FYI:
As I have said, the most typical Polish mash is plain mash with no milk, cream or butter, however I have encountered what I call country-style mash: after the potatoes are drained and steamed dry, add some skwarki (pork fatback nuggets fried golden brown) to the pot and mash into the taters. Optional: a bit of minced onion may be browned with the skwarki. Bacon nuggets give it a smoky flavour. In poor rural families that is a meal in itself with a bowl of cold soured milk (zsiadłe mleko) on the side.

In our home the most common way of serving potatoes as a main-course accompaniment is boiled whole or broken up a bit, dotted with butter and garnished generously with fresh or frozen fine chopped dill. (In season we wash and chop fresh dill, pack it into glass jam jars with twist-off lids and freeze it until needed. Almost like fresh and certainly much better than the dry dill weed found in supermarket spice and seasoning aisles).

Language / Polish keyboard incompatibility issues [11]

Yes, the first quotation mark is even with the line whilst the closing one is higher. The em dash is made by typing two hyphens which coalesce into the em sash when you hit the space bar.

I should have added that you also have all the American figures engraved on the keytops including #, ¤, &, *, <, > and $.

News / Don't read "Gazeta Wyborcza" Polish newspaper -- wPolityce.pl [83]


Are you getting a kickback for your lobbying or are you just anotehr "useful idiot" for the capitalist bloodsuckers? They use the same argument that consuemrs will suffer. But no, the tax will be spread. An economist explained on TVP evening news that it will be spread among retailers, suppliers nad consumers. As a result, the consumer will be roughly pay 1 grosz more on 100 złotys worth of goods so it will hardly be felt by thd average shopper. Natrually, if the greedy capitalists try to circumvent it, pass the tax entirely onto consumers or try some other funny business (and we can't put it past those greedy bastards!), they will be dealt with severely.