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Nathan   
23 Apr 2011
Life / Rules of Etiquette in Poland [22]

I don't think Poles would be any different. They'll undoubtedly be as much hospitable to Bulgarians and Ukrainians. As long as we don't touch history there is always warm feelings among us. Personally, I had some nice encounters with Polish people.
Nathan   
22 Apr 2011
Life / Rules of Etiquette in Poland [22]

After this demonstration, I asked her if she wanted to chew mine. She declined.

You should have specified that you didn't mean the nails. You might have been lucky that day :)

Did he charge you extra?

I hope he did - they looked like those stringy sprouts the cooks add to the spring soups in Asian restaurants. This adds a bit to the value, no doubt.

I think they noticed that the pizza was baked pre-cut by a very dull utensil. They would also have appreciated the glazed topping.

Do you think it was rude of me not to tell anyone else about it?

I think you served your countrimen by increasing their protein ration while on military duty. In other countries it is considered heroism. It was courageous and loudable, Havok.

Also saw a mechanic gnawing a pork chop bone, as though he were a Pit Bull!

I think it is the other way around. People for centuries were trying to artificially select for dogs which look like humans: chiahuas, chupacabras, pitbulls - all are just human faces. So, that mechanic looked munching like human and pitbulls "synthesized" to follow our natural deviances.

OMG, you should have asked her to kiss your ass lol

Not her, it would have been my wife or gf who would have to prove my "cleanliness" to be honoured to eat out of the dog's place. I was alone there that night.
Nathan   
22 Apr 2011
Life / Rules of Etiquette in Poland [22]

I had a similar case, but the hosts simply let the dog on a chair and he ate off my left-overs even though I wasn't finished yet. The host's mother said that if I want she would kiss her dog's butt just to assure his "cleanliness". I politely refused the demonstration.

- I've seen a guy puke in a bar and then wipe his mouth with his g-friend hair.

This is ... Damn. Reminds me seeing on TV a hidden camera of a cook who was making some soup in a restaurant and his long, greying, dirty Harley Davidson-like hair fell into the soup. Guess what he did??? He squeezed the last drop out his hair into the soup, brushed it away on his back and went on adding spices.
Nathan   
22 Apr 2011
Life / Rules of Etiquette in Poland [22]

What are they? Not the ones written in books covered in dust or applied at a table or in conversation in some circles of so-called high society, but just everydays behaviour of you, your parents, friends, enemies,...Do you find it striking when they are absent or don't care at all? Do you have sex the way my ex-house-mate when in sleep I started to think it was me doing his girl-friend? Do you sip your soup like a vacuum-cleaner? Do you open a door for a woman or an old person? What bothers you in its observance? Are there myths about other people's etiquette rules?
Nathan   
21 Apr 2011
Genealogy / LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON KOPIJ FAMILY IN LWOW [6]

Where did I say Soviet for Poland, Torq? ;) I just said republic. Was it a republic or no?
*takes a bottle of finished cheap wine from Torq so he doesn't get even more drunk*:)
Nathan   
21 Apr 2011
Genealogy / LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON KOPIJ FAMILY IN LWOW [6]

I would be most grateful for any assistance with the name of Emil Kopij I think came from Buska? in Lviv the spelling could be incorrect.
Thks.

I knew Kopij who lived and, probably, still lives in L'viv.

what became the so-called Ukrainian, Belarussian and Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republics were resettled after Stalin annexed and never returned one-half of prewar Poland.

I also heard about Kopijs in the annexed Germany's and Czech's territories and never returned back by the SO-CALLED Polish republic.
Nathan   
21 Apr 2011
History / The smallest Poland ever? [115]

And other pluses and minuses you can think of? Are you satisfied with Poland's current territorial extent?

Pluses: being alive and have a piece of land which you can claim to be yours; not having Russians on your east borders. Minuses: having Ironside and his pathetic dreams and quackings.

and only one-third the size of the Rzplita Objga Narodów.

It was Lithuania and now Lithuanians may claim Warsaw, Ironside included in the package :)

Polish cryptologists broke a couple of Russian codes they used to command and coordinate their armies

What code? You learnt to open a bottle of vodka? Russians think only one step ahead - destroy and level off. The next thing is getting drunk and search for sties to sleep in. There is no code, especially of honour.
Nathan   
20 Apr 2011
History / Why did communism in Poland fail? [180]

Communist countries have industry, but limited trading partners.

Heavy industry, more correctly.

I think the number one reason communism fails is isolation

What about fifteen republics of the SU, Warsaw block, Cuba and half of Asia and Africa? It is somewhere around half of the world's population, if not more.

Even though they are communist

They are not communist in a true sense of this word because they cooperate with bourgeois leeches who suck away from poor proletarians. Somehow these leeches invest in the Chinese economy when the almighty communist regime having everything: manpower, resources is not able to feed its populace. So much for the communism.

Any communist country can experience economic growth if they follow the Chinese model.

Too many unsupported generalizations, PP - visit China and see what this growth is based on.
Nathan   
18 Apr 2011
History / Why did communism in Poland fail? [180]

We were always materialistic, it's just we had no materials!!!

Nicely put. So true.

It can also be argued that there is a correctness in two parties

At least there is a balance, a chance of having a bit less idiots on one side to choose from. In one party system there is no natural selection.

They were painted black and sold off.

Humans are humans ;)

and if there basicly was no thing like economy or money and everybody settled for basic needs

Isn't it a hardcore statement of Communism: from anyone by his abilities and to anyone according to his needs? This is even against physics!

To make product "A" you need the subparts "B" and "C". What if your country don't have or can't make "B"? You must get it from someone else, import/export.

Great point. Another one is that even if you could produce all the parts on your own, you were not allowed to, because it would make you individual, independant - anti-Communist. For example, while in SU Ukraine's tank factory used to produce tanks without barrels; they were exported from Russia. Is there a logic, except to make sure that in case of anything it would take some time to produce tanks on its own or always keep track on functional tanks in a neighboring republic by counting how much barrels you sent those under your control?

After Stalin dead there were no purges.

There were, but not on such a scale.

Then, when the rich decided they couldn't get away with it any longer they stole some more and handed over power on condition they wouldn't be prosecuted.

Yep. And in some cases they are now creating "democracy" for us too.
Nathan   
18 Apr 2011
History / Why did communism in Poland fail? [180]

Some of us are kept on longer ,thinner leashes but there is always someone willing to yank on them if we step beyond what is "acceptable" in whatever sociaty we find ourselves.

I agree, life in a community demands giving up certain powers which we feel to be entitled to. But it is a general will to give up a bit of one's unrestrained power in order to not suffer later from someone who is more powerful than us. I consider it beneficial. Don't you?

Seems to me,Red,white or polka dot coloured banners its all the same,its always the few,the rich and powerfull who controll the many rich and powerfull communist in a Volga or the rich and powerfull capitalist in a Maybach

This is the way it goes. Someone has to be at the top. Look in the nature - not a single society lives otherwise (as far as I know). But the major point is the law, which was non-existant for the Communist party members (except, small fry) and the choice which I think makes one a human was absent in the Communism. As Lenin said: one is a nut or a screw in a general mechanism. The Communists proved it - people were nothing, but replaceable screws. And again it is not about cars - if one earned it and drives it - everyone may as well be happy for him. The worst is when you see the worthless scum on the post-communist horizon driving on stolen money while some others haven't got their salary for a few months.
Nathan   
17 Apr 2011
History / Why did communism in Poland fail? [180]

So why did communism fail?

It will fail anywhere and only by force can be kept alive, because one of the main premises of its existance is elimination of private property. No human will ever care about something not his more than about his/her own. Another thing is "correctness" of one party, one policy written by some drunkard in 1848 who was neither economist, nor a person who adheres to what he writes about. Also, there is no sex in Communism ;) and you HAVE to believe that a leader in some remote Russian (sorry for my bias) village is thinking how to make your life better, day and night. He might even not eat just to make sure that everything is Ok at your crammed apartment. You simply have to BELIEVE, reality doesn't matter - it is a lie anyway.
Nathan   
14 Apr 2011
News / What are Poland's optimal both real and virtual neighbors? [81]

Ukraine is definitely one of them Nathan

Hey, that's nice to hear, PennBoy.

Many similarities in ethnics, culture, food, mentality. It's no wonder Poles and Ukrainians get along abroad.

I agree. Food, especially. When I ate pączki in Gdansk, it reminded me my granny's. Yammi :)
Nathan   
14 Apr 2011
News / What are Poland's optimal both real and virtual neighbors? [81]

Hi there, everyone. Poland has 7 land-bound neighbors: Germany, the Czech republic, Slovakia, Ukraine, Belorus, Lithuania and Russian Federation. I just have a question in regards to what countries Polish people think are their optimal neighbors, if any, and reasons why or why not and also if it was possible to move countries over (replace the current ones), if any, which would be the best for Poland and in what way. There is also a possibility of moving the neighbors around :) - sometimes it is not as much their presence as location that play a role.
Nathan   
11 Apr 2011
News / Poland 2050? What will happen? [60]

And what would be that toxicity? Poland once tried to do that and left a lot of its brave toxic soldiers to rot on our lands. Ukrainians are not good for fertilizers - we have stupid armies across the border to help us out with manuring the soil.
Nathan   
11 Apr 2011
News / Poland 2050? What will happen? [60]

Isn't the world supposed to end in 2012, not 2011? If so, will Poles and Ukies manage to see Euro 2012 through to its completion?

We played under much worse circumstances, so the presence of the heavenly power will only make the matches more interesting :)
Nathan   
8 Apr 2011
History / History of European and Poland's anti-semitism [192]

is that some kind of pun in the context of European anti-semitism?

You are brutal, darius ;)

And btw. are't the likes of Germany, Spain or Britain in Europe? Suddenly everybody is interested in Poland and Ukraine but forgets about some notable achievements of European anti-semites in those much more civilized areas of the continent.

That seems to be oftentime the case, unfortunately. Money shift the historical accents.

The best pork chops I ever had were made by one Jewish chick in Long Island. Pure perfection.

Are you sure those were pork chops? Once I ate chicken-wings and then they told me these were frog-feet. Me too, I thought they were the pinnacle of perfection :)
Nathan   
8 Apr 2011
History / History of European and Poland's anti-semitism [192]

That's the dumbest thing they don't eat pork, lamb smells like sh1t

You are funny, PennBoy :) This is exactly how pork smells to them ;)

... and the way thy kill their animals - totally uncool

I haven't seen, but I am simply disgusted how some cultures torture animals before they kill them. Bastards.

Jews would have stoned him to death, he was crucified and that was a Roman punishment.

;)
Nathan   
7 Apr 2011
History / History of European and Poland's anti-semitism [192]

Yep, he was well known for going to the synagogue every sabbath and for refusing to have people murdered from sunset on Friday onwards.

And quit Orthodox seminary after he found out about his Jewish roots.
Nathan   
25 Mar 2011
News / 9 year old Polish girl and 10 year old brother killed by World War II bomb [46]

I think they'd better send these bombs via email to dumb bigots like you and release this way the Earth from waste of biomass.

In February 2010, engineers removed a wartime bomb from the construction site of the National Stadium in Warsaw, which is being built for the Euro 2012 football championships.

During the construction of L'viv stadium for Euro2012 they also found bombs from WWII. Some of them were still active. This is a lesson for certain people from Indiana about what a war is and what consequences it carries. And, maybe, some day he will realize that sending bombs on innocent people just to prove one's dumb point is beyond stupid.
Nathan   
31 Dec 2010
News / Composer Henryk Gorecki has died. [28]

Great point, Trevek. My take on it is that if someone is considered a genius and then he is forgotten then there was no much to his/her geniusness. Many geniuses died without even been noticed and we don't know them today, because we didn't know them when they were alive. But they are not forgotten, because they were not known in the first place. But one can also say that consideration of genius fades with time as we know more and more and the genius of the previous century seems to know what a first-grader today does. And people rarely appreciate that what a genius did in his time was an unbelievable achievement. I found two beautiful phrases on genius in Wiki:

"Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see". (A. Schopenhauer)
"Great men, like great epochs, are explosive material in whom tremendous energy has been accumulated; their prerequisite has always been, historically and physiologically, that a protracted assembling, accumulating, economizing and preserving has preceded them - that there has been no explosion for a long time." (F. Nitsche)
Nathan   
31 Dec 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

Lwów has 1 university Nathan and it was founded

No, Lviv has 10 universities, Sokrates:

Ivan Franko National University of Lviv (ukr. Львівський національний університет імені Івана Франка)
Lviv Polytechnic (ukr. Національний університет "Львівська політехніка")
Danylo Halytsky Lviv National Medical University (ukr. Львiвський національний медичний унiверситет iм. Данила Галицького)
Lviv Stepan Gzhytsky national university of veterinary medicine and biotechnologies (ukr. Львівський національний університет ветеринарної медицини та біотехнологій імені Степана Гжицького)
National Forestry Engineering University of Ukraine (ukr. Український національний лісотехнічний університет)
Ukrainian Catholic University (ukr. Український католицький університет)
Lviv National Agrarian University (ukr. Львівський національний аграрний університет)
Lviv State University of Physical Training (ukr. Львівський державний університет фізичної культури)
Lviv State University of Vital Activity Safety (ukr. Львівський державний університет безпеки життєдіяльності)
Lviv State University of Internal Affairs (ukr. Львівський державний університет внутрішніх справ)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lviv
Nathan   
31 Dec 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

which bridges did Ukrainians built in Lwów?

We have one underground river called Poltwa, so it has no bridges over it ;) But if you mean the ones over the dry land, I guess most of them were built by Ukrainians, unless Poles managed in the interbellum to build something while burning libraries and churches.

Bohdan Makarenko "The 10 000 year of continuous existence of the Ukrainian Empire" !

Any link to your phantasy? ;) Somehow, I can't find it in any language.

we built cobblestone streets that you use today

Thanks, you were good boys. You see, Sokrates, when you serve properly I respect that. Yes, a few cobblestone streets built during Austro-Hungary were uncovered recently from Communist epoch's asphalt and it looks beautiful. I like when a horse knocks with its hooves on the cobblestone, it reminds me of your servitude, Sokrates, and I have a warm feeling towards you, thing so rare in my heart. You should be grateful for that.

Why did it take Poles to build a university?

What university? Lviv has 10 universities. Anyhow, none of them was built by Poles.

Why were all the schools run by polish teachers?

In the interbellum that was the case, which meant that sooner or later you have to be kicked out. The justice was served and now there are lectures in Ukrainian, English and either French or German if I am not mistaken. Feels great. Hope to see you in Lviv in 2012.
Nathan   
31 Dec 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

But was built by Poles

You can say whatever you want and dream of things, but the truth remains: Poles didn't do a thing in Lviv:)

Ukraine, no before 1990?

Open at least a book, małpko.

Belarus has roads that Poland can still dream of, like this one.

Nice road. I am happy for Belorus.

they did start building them like you said, that's good.

It is still nothing. Corruption eats away many steps we could have done forward long ago. But it is a process of evolution and it has to be lived through.
Nathan   
30 Dec 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

Never produced a combat rocket, they did produce firecrackers for celebrations

rockets werent exactly accurate at the time which is why Poland dropped them after about two decades of use

How is this different from using them as firecrackers? Simply you used them in the field and Portuguese - in the cities. 20 years? ;) Haha. You see, Polish realized they can't scare enemies by firecrackers. I just wonder why it took so much time? ;)

At Orsza, i'd have to check out exactly but XV century

Be kind to check it exactly. You are an expert of military stuff, so it would be nice to know for sure when you argue about this grand Polish achievement of using firecrackers in the field.

ukrainian city

Lviv train station was founded in 1861
Lviv train station facade and main structure was built between 1899-1904
Lviv Opera House opened in 1900, built in Austria and brought over piece-wise.
Lviv University of Ivan Franko was stipulated as one of the conditions of the Hadiach Treaty and was to be Ukrainian.
Lviv from 1772 till 1918 was part of Austrian-Hungarian empire and during this period appeared this architecture. Poland as such haven't existed at that time.
Latin Cathedral is still in Lviv and is one of my favorite anal structures. As you might notice it was never burnt by Ukrainians as compared to hundreds of churches Polish invaders destroyed in Ukraine and so many important historical monuments disappeared forever.

My point is that destruction is your main achievement here. You succeded.
Nathan   
30 Dec 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

portugese engineers who passed their knowledge to their polish counterparts in Kraków.

So, what Portuguese engineers were doing with that knowledge? Just kept it and never produced a rocket to fire waiting for Polish ambassador? ;) Or you would say that the Portuguese are not Europeans? What year Polish used their first rocket, which was before the rest of Europe did?

So you're saying we did not build 90% of Lwóws historical and utility sites?

If you mean Lviv, this is exactly what I said.
Nathan   
29 Dec 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

kicked ass of Alexander of Macedonia!

Where have I said that or that we are anyhow more culturally developed than any other nation?

I could become a famous and cherish historian if I declared myself an Ukrainian

Well, if you already made your name in Poland by claiming Kopernickus and Mickiewickus as Polish, then yes, try it. Anyhow, they won't grant you this ever - you are too funny :)