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Sokrates   
4 May 2011
News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

Plenty of people are running it.

Russians, Ukrainians, Mafia, Jews, Poles... Yep plenty of people are running Ukraine, all in different directions too, oh right then there's the actuall ukrainian goverment too.

There's a thriving, but small NGO sector there

By thriving you mean a couple used chiefly for money laundering and furthering various interest groups goals?

the education system is functioning well enough

In 2007 5% of Tarnopole region army recruits couldnt read.

Ukraine is functioning.

Yep its a fully functional anarchy.

I suggest you start by looking at what the Ukrainian tax authorities have been doing recently.

Apart from stealing? Enlighten me.

So - if it's so bad - why didn't I see that, even when visiting really poor villages in the L'viv oblast?

Lets take a look at really poor villages in Lwów region.

The image f*cked up my quoting so lets put it in perspective (be carefull when singing praises i got plenty of pictures that show exactly what a horrible p*ss poor country Ukraine is).

Ukraine is horribly poor and not moving forward, adding to boot its civilisationally somewhere in the mid 20s of the XX century and has no social elite whatsoever, life there ranges from difficult to abso-f*cking-lutely horrible.


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Sokrates   
4 May 2011
News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

It won't. There's too much at stake from both the West and East point of view for Ukraine to fall

No one is running it, literally! Also what the Wests stake? The buffer is already there, its called Poland.

Ukraine, economically, isn't in terrible shape either.

Wait what? People in the army are being paid in food because the state has no money and you're claiming its not in terrible shape? During the 2009 flu epidemic it almost enacted martial law! You can't go to a doctor without a bribe, any doctor anywhere! Ukraine is in a horrible shape.

The corruption is dreadful, but I've heard first hand from a rather wealthy American business owner there that the new President has been dealing with the worst of it - and that other foreign investors are actually on his side.

Wait who? Who's been dealing with it and how?

All in all, while not a great place to be, it's no bad place either.

No its actually a horrible place to be, there's no social order, no real goverment, corruption is unbelievable, economy is at the level of some african state and not moving forward, healthcare is the prime reason of deaths and approximately two thirds of the country live on the edge of poverty.

I'd certainly rather live in Ukraine than Namibia, that's for sure.

Actually Namibia is slightly better off, i researched it since its so often compared to Ukraine and its economy is developing whereas Ukraine sticks firmly to one spot.
Sokrates   
4 May 2011
News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

Oh come on killing them would be fun... Seriously though untill lately i've been an ardent supporter of closer ties, then i had a peak into their internal situation, Ukraine is a gutter wrapped in a sh*tpile, there's no one to talk to there, literally no one, even the official goverment is only a faction.

This place is going to fall on its face within the next 10 years, whats the point of being friends with a terminally ill hobo?
Sokrates   
4 May 2011
News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

What for?

1. Sort out the historical issues. Deal accordingly with the extremists on both sides.

Impossible, without extremist Ukraine has literally no heritage or history.

3. Increase political, scientific and economic co-operation. Our joined potentials can make
us a force to be reckoned with

2 beggars in one room do not a rich man make.
Sokrates   
4 May 2011
News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

Bear in mind that they did a rather splendid job of removing Poles in the past

Only because Poland was occuppied and had no means of retaliation, now its an organised state again, last i checked Ukraine lost every regular war with Poland?

what makes you think you can defeat them this time?

Having an actual army with working equipment as opposed to Ukraine having stuff that has issues just moving from point A to point B due to lack of spare parts.

Also bear in mind that far more powerful interests will support Ukrainian independence over Polish interests.

Really? Because you say so? Last i checked Poland is in NATO and EU and Ukraine is where? Who's going to protect it? Russia will jump at the opportunity to "protect its citizens" and annex the eastern parts.

The fact is if Ukraine ever starts ethnic cleansing Poland and Russia would roll over it in a week and after a month the death of a country would stop even making news.
Sokrates   
4 May 2011
News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

Sure, and again you will be running around Europe with Institute of National Memory counting the fallen by the so-called "rezuny" ;)

You do realise that your army is non existent? What are you going to threaten Poland with in the event of any conflict? Foul language? C'mon Nathan we both know your country is a temporary thing and Lwów will get back to Poland sooner or later:))))

Also Rezuny wont do much when they get driven over by tanks:))))))

Another thing about Ukraine one might want to know: western and central regions are highly nationalistic and will rip apart any chauvinistic Pole,

With what? Your pilots fly 2 hours a year, your tanks have enough fuel and spare parts for 100 hours of activity, its hard to rip apart a chauvinistic Pole when he's riding an armoured vehicle and all you have is a d*ck in your hand and a lot of misplaced anger, its our land Nathan we built the cities, the roads, you just live there!

not the city where temporarily is located Russian fleet.

Face it, its there to stay.
Sokrates   
3 May 2011
News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

Why does everyone leave out the simple solutions like genocide? Ukraine is a place where people suffered throught history and we have a moral duty to deliver them from any future maladies, its only ethical to kill them all.
Sokrates   
1 May 2011
History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]

No, building ties based on common heritage is.

After you kill off the natives of course.

The problem with Slavs is almost always nationalism.

The problem with Scots is almost always nationalism.

Also, Mickiewicz was born in what is now Belarus and also strongly identified with Lithuania where he spent a very long time. Why not jointly celebrate such a man? Dzień Mickiewicza :)

Because Lithuania is small, why build ties when we can murder them and not share anything?
Sokrates   
30 Apr 2011
History / The Piast dynasty did most for Poland [24]

Crown was smaller then Lithuania. I don't know exact numbers of land so just example:

Doesnt matter it had more than ten times the population and was more than 300 years ahead in military technology.

Apart from the fact that Lithuania had a tiny population another fact is omitted, these guys were technologically at about 12 century level, they didnt have heavy cavalry in the true sense, they didnt use or know how to produce plate armor and unlike the Scots a pike was an unknown weapon to them. at the time of the union Lithuania didnt have even one stone castle, thats how huge the difference was

After the Battle of Grunwald king Jagiełło had to delegate a thousand polish knights just to escort the lithuanian army back home.

The Piasts were also responsible for the fragmentation of Poland

True but you have to remember that back than nations didnt exist, also its the Silesian Piasts that are responsible for elevating Poland back from its fragmentation and into power.
Sokrates   
29 Apr 2011
History / The Piast dynasty did most for Poland [24]

Nope. By invading Lithuania and then Poland, Russia saved them both from petty bickering and mutual anihilation.

Novgorod?
Sokrates   
29 Apr 2011
History / The Piast dynasty did most for Poland [24]

Thats a lie Nathan, Lithuania had about the same population as Ukraine at that time, which is about 1/10th of the population of Poland, its military was (as with ukrainian one) stuck in XIIth century, among the most realistic estimates out of the 40.000 combatants on the Polish side only 6000 were Lithuanian.

To be specific there are plenty figures but the most realistic now point to a 40.000 allied army comprised 30.000 Poles, 6.000 - 7000 Lithuanians, 500-1000 Kievans and around 2000 Bohemians.

On the other side there was a force comprising 25.000 Germans, 5.000 Bohemians and around 5.000 Italian, French, Austrian or Polish knights.

Lithuania was at the time a sideshow.
Sokrates   
28 Apr 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

I hope that there will be a day when we can just be honest and open about it

I hate those words, you know why? Because Jews use them all the time and its newspeak nothing more, when a Jew says "lets be honest about it" what he means is "conceed to my point of view and hand over your money".

Sorry i'm not open to any discussion with them because they dont discuss, they mask blackmail under the guise of discussion.
Sokrates   
27 Apr 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

Sokrates who exactly(by name if You may) do You mean? I myself think it is much to much exaggerated by some nationalists

Schetyna for example, i myself dont think its exaggerated.
Sokrates   
27 Apr 2011
Travel / Why are some Taxis in Warsaw so smelly? [16]

I have noticed this alot. Some taxis are so smelly that you can't just sit inside for 5 minutes specially older taxi drivers. Any body else has experienced this or is it only me? Thank you for your answers.

Because you stink them up.
Sokrates   
27 Apr 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

Sok is right on the second point. There are more than you think. FP.

Amusingly enough most surviving Jews went into commie regime and survived it, you wont find many Jews in Poland unless you visit our parliament.
Sokrates   
27 Apr 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

It really startles me how we don't talk so much about Yugoslavia or Rwanda anymore and they are fresher genocides.

Thats because no one gives a sh*t, Balkans are always at war with someone and Rwanda is poor far away black people dying.

Granted, the vested interests are lower but nobody has really been playing on guilt that much.

Thats because jews are after the money and Poland with its weak political elite and the fact that it hosted these fugly paracites for centuries is a prime target for blackmail.

Western countries have a powerful and relatively sensible elite which will not allow jews to f*ck with their wallets, Poland still has some communist Jews in its govt as well as their kids.

They aren't people, Sok? Always at war, really?

I just explained the media/elites reasoning behind it sans political correctness.

What do you mean by Jewish sympathizers? There are very few Jews living in Poland, hardly any political force to reckon with...

Rubbish, whe communism in Poland fell many communist Jews changed the flag and retained their power, not enough to steal Polands money and land but far too much and they're definitely a political power to be reckoned with.
Sokrates   
27 Apr 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

I've watched Defamation twice and there is no official policy of anti-Polonism. Stop being paranoid, grubas!

So the policy being unoficial makes it somehow better?
Sokrates   
27 Apr 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

Come on,a lot of shouty gobby ones are for sure but my british jewish mates dont fall into that category.

Quite a few of them are just people rolling along, to be specific i dont give a sh*t about jews being jews untill they start one of the above mentioned crapfests, in everyday life i dont care unless they do or say something im bothered with.

some do.

Most do, i dont give a f*ck if someones family went up a chimney and i dont feel remotely responsible, just tired and annoyed.

Shall I mention the ritual cannabalism implicit in communion and the act of transfiguration etc? At a guess id say its about 2 thousand years or so since anyone was wiped out or seriously persecuted in the name of Judaism,its a pity Christianity doesnt have that record.

Thats stretching your argument, fact is Jews think they're the chosen nation and that entitles them to f*ck up anyone non-jewish in any way possible since everyone not a jew is a smelly monkey and to anyone who says im full of it i point to what passes for their country, how they obtained it and how they terrorise the locals because locals are not jews.

There's a LOT about jews that i dont agree with and that has nothing to do with them being jewish and everything with them being f*cktards, dangerous ones too since they can talk reasonable when they have to and become racist little monsters when they can get away with it and f*ck i believe in collective responsibility.

Ps.

I believe Meiry is a fake account troll.
Sokrates   
26 Apr 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

1. Because they defend their right to Israel.
2. Because they attempt to guilt trip the entire world.
3. Because their religion is unbelievably f*cked up due to a number of reasons beaten in sheer nuttiness only by Islam.

Guys like that doctor defending Palestinians show that despite Jews being a bunch of religious nazis there's still hope for em tho.
Sokrates   
26 Apr 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

Sok, you can't tar everyone with the same brush.

Yes i can! Its awesomely fun too!

There are many noble Jews.

I pretend these guys are confused Poles.

Why do they never come on here then?

To be serious now, yeah there's some noble Jews but the vast majority are fockwits.