Step off the nationalistic propaganda bus. Read the real history you'll find it's interesting.

They had majority German populations and spoke German, but by that standard Boston would be part of England or Ireland.

I didn`t say that. Maybe they were speaking german but they prefer to be a part of Rzeczpospolita ( Poland) than belong to Prussia.

maybe BB but in XvIII Those germans prefer to be part of Poland than go to Prussia.
Thi is the fact. Gdańsk/Danzing was the most loyal polis city, their citizens were loyal to Poland even after first partition when Prussia took the all cost. Only the "german" city stay polish ;)

Were you unaware that Danzig had asked to join Poland?

Your own argument now seems to be it doesn't matter what nation a city belongs to... perhaps you should leave it at that.

As a wise man once said, it was neither Holy, nor an Empire, nor Roman. And it was not exclusively German by a long shot. Saying it has a German "Character" is a little bit of a wiggle from claiming it is 100% German.

Not at all?

More than 30,000 Poles with Austrian or Russian citizenship were deported from the Prussian part of divided Poland to the respective Austrian and Russian parts.

The expulsion was condemned by the Polish public as well as the federal German parliament. The expulsion also contributed to the worsening of the German-Russian relations. In the aftermath, Poles without German citizenship were again allowed to work and reside in the German Empire in all seasons but the winter.

How old are you?

There was more than one type of German, the Hanseatic cities were at least as far apart from the mentality of the Teutonic Order as your ideal of Germans and Poles were. That is why Hamburg and Lubeck refused to let Hitler speak in the 1930s

I wasn't saying they did become Polish, I was just suggesting that was what the original comment referred to.

I suggest this refers to Hanse towns joining forces with Polish/Lithuanian commonwealth against the Teutonic Order, as part of dispute over trade.

they fled German rule and joined Poland of their own initiative.

(Just as other Hanse cities had done centuries before, even to the pagan Lithuanians)

The law was Hanse law and Lubeck law which was Holy Roman Empire law. Both were international and not exclusively German. Are you suggesting that the HRE was the same thing as Germany?

Poles were allowed to flourish under the rule of the Teutonic Order?

That sounds better than demanding "your" territory back or claiming that the Prussian cities were 100% German.

G.

So who gets kaliningrad?

Actually we all just take what Russia gives us... or else!

THE POLES IS PRUSSIA.; Their Growing Prosperity Causes Alarm

Clearly it did not matter historically to the citizens of Danzig, Elbing, Torun et al that they were part of a Polish Kingdom, to the contrary, they sought it out in preference to having German masters who they found oppressive.

Actually you could argue Europe has been worse off in some ways since the rise of the nation State.

then why you want the land back the people that ware living there are dead by now anyhow....

But your pop music still stinks :)

and Podolski is still Polish

oh well, one day you'll attack PL once again.. that's why i was always against reunification.. huge mistake.. huge

we need to remember you for what you really are.. :)

POLENGGGs+BB what about Alsace-Lorraine, do you think the French will give that back?

Short answer: NEVER

Sorry but i rather go for french stuff!!!

except that fuker and Prussa have nothing against commemorating people, they were born where they were born - nothing more nothing less.

It must be really wee we, as mostly western Germany paid the bill!
Where do you fit there BB?:P

Ofc they do, good for business ;) more germans comming with big wallets!!!

And the "Germanic" people didn't complain under Polish rule, they loved it and helped to build the polish towns.

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The city was almost entirely destroyed during the Mongol invasions of 1241, 1259 and 1287.[7] It was rebuilt and incorporated in 1257, based on the Magdeburg law, with tax benefits and trade privileges for its citizens.[8] These citizens were German settlers who moved in during the Ostsiedlung and who constituted a majority of burghers in contemporary Polish and Bohemian towns.[9]
The 1257 foundation decree issued by Bolesław V the Chaste was unusual in that it explicitly excluded the local population.[9] The older royal fort Wawel was connected to the new town, built on its northern side around the market square, by its former suburbium (Okol).[10] Germans constituted the majority during the 14th century and became Polonized by the 16th century.[11]

Renovation work going on in Wroclaw is awesome.

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In Szczecin, Haken Terrace has been named after Hermann Haken, the city's German mayor from 1878 to 1907. And inhabitants of the Masurian, formerly East Prussia, village of Eichmedien attracted attention last year when a two-thirds majority backed a monument in honour of Otto von Bismarck. Prussia's "Iron Chancellor" was known, among other things, for his Germanisation policies and attempts to subject the Roman Catholic Church to state controls.
More than six decades since WWII ended, people throughout previously German-ruled Poland are thinking pragmatically, for the most part. German tourists visiting the region often want to see traces of Germany, so the Poles are happy to oblige - even if it means showing off Bismarck. In Danzig, there are organised walking tours that trace the haunts of Germany's Nobel literature laureate Guenter Grass, its native son. Sopot commemorates the late German actor Klaus Kinski, who was born there.
Now the municipal government of the Silesian town of Swidnica wants to get into the act too. It has decided to remind visitors that German WWI ace Manfred von Richthofen, the "Red Baron," once lived there....

Poland would be a much happier place if its neighbours were France, we could make day trips to Paris , the Alps and the Cote d'Azure and discuss 'what if germany still existed?' on PF.

Gdansk definitely wasn't ever solely german either.

Well Peugeot and Citroen is enough ;)

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The findings of Polarity UK's opinion poll conducted among post-accession migrants last year show that 41% of respondents don't go to church at all and 37% go less often than they used to in Poland. Young Poles communicate with each other using English or "Ponglish" - a linguistic hybrid created by the introduction of English words into their speech - and only few are sending their children to Saturday schools where they could learn the Polish language, literature and history. What's more, newcomers are not part of any ethnic organisation and tend to have an opportunistic attitude towards their fellow countrymen.
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