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Bratwurst Boy   
29 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

A loser will always find an excuse

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones! :)

Ditto! :)

It's not how you start things that matters but how you end them.

Tell that the Brits and the French, they started WWII with the end of WWI and the Treaty of Versailles.
Both conflicts were about the new power structure of Europe, the old Bullies against the new kid on the bloc.
And now Germany has it's place on top of Europe that it deserves...so we ended it good, didn't we? ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Gaelic only stopped being the number 1 language in Scotland about 300 years ago. It is still the first language of Wales and is now making a huge come back in Ireland too.

I didn't know that...but great to hear! :)

Do you know why you have to revert to excuses? Because try as you may you were not the winners of WWII!

I never said we were the winners of WWII....we lost...we lost dearly....hammered.
But look how we fighted...it needed a whole coalition of half of the world to bring us down.

You haven't won a single war since XIX century. :)

But we won many wars and great battles. Read the history...about how many proud countries surrendered to Germany.
We won against all european countries besides Russia. This proved just to much!

But when such a loser country declares now itself as a winner and starts to brag about it it just get's the answer it deserves...nothing personal! :)

(I wouldn't take that crap from the French either)...
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Thats why Americans speak English ;) And most of the civilised world ;)

You speak Saxon, a German dialect....more or less...:)
The Saxons conquered the islands already 1000 years back! And from there America...;)

PS: But most people speak Chinese or any other non-English language I fear...

Of course, and if an oma had a moustache she would be an opa! :)
It's always the same excuses, excuses...

Being conquered in 4 weeks, and then after a coalition did ones work declaring oneself a winner....now THAT is pathetic!
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

We won the war against Poland, against Norway, against Denmark, against Belgium, against Luxembourg, against the Netherlands, against France, against GB (throwing them out of Europe in Dunkirk) first round, against Greece, against Yugoslavia...and so on.

We lost against Russia and an alliance of all these losers who knew they only had a chance together clasping hands against little Germany....;)

PS: Even WWI had the Frenchies and the Brits so desperate that they were crying for the US to come and save their nuts...there is no european power greater than Germany! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Names are just names, BB. You had Bonn and Berlin as capitals of west and east so where is this middle you speak of?

Nope...Bonn was always only an interim solution. It was part of the German basic law that once Germans are unified again the new capital would be the old, Berlin.

And yes, what is now eastern Germany was once middle Germany...what is so hard to understand?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Germany

Look at the map!

With influence comes power.

You know how people react if Germany flexes it's muscles? ;):):):)
They are sh'itting their pants and have nightmares about Panzers and marching Wehrmacht again...even 60 years after the war.
They still need time to get used to it that the modern war is battled out with cold money instead of hot machine guns (at least in Europe).

For more than 50 years things were seemingly cast in stone and most people were okay with how things did run....only recently things have begun to change and shift. We will see....
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Why not?

Germany is biggest investor in Poland....1/3 of the whole polish trade is with Germany....we have no borders anymore...every German can build and settle everywhere in Poland if he wants to...Poles happily buy and consume German goods, prefer German cars etc.

What are we missing? :)
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

So disputed lands in Poland belonged to West or East Germany back in the day, BB? ;) ;) Isn't it funny that, were it to be Bonn and West Germany's old territory, that you'd have to leapfrog a whole 'country' in East Germany? ;)

Huh?
What do you want to say with that?
What is known today as "East Germany" was called "Mitteldeutschland" (middle Germany") even earlier!

A little word that Germany could say, BB. NO!

Depends...if the EU becomes more German and starts to follow our example more it might be worth it to invest so much to make it work.

Problems will arise if the countries still keep wanting Germany's help and Germany's money but still also want to keep to their old ways...

That would mean a hole without a bottom to throw away our good money...then somebody will soon say: "Nein!"

It's decision time for some EU-members...but they can't have it both ways. That's why an eventual split is still not from the table.

If they want to sink and drown they should do that alone!
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Now leave it that way, unless the Dam Germans start to act up again. I think they learned a lesson with the last war

Oh yeah...we learned our lesson...now we are conquering Europe without firing a shot. We are owning Poland already and you are saying even "THANK YOU!" :)

Not to mention making deals with Russia and the US instead of fighting them...so much smarter by us! ;)

Panzers are so yesterday...Mercs are so much better! :)

They act like they are better than all the rest

Well....we are! *shrug* What can we do? ;)

pajamasmedia/victordavishanson/the-new-old-german-problem

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To walk an urban street in Germany is a different experience from say in Athens or Istanbul - traffic follows law, pedestrians are respected, horns are used rarely, trash is absent. In other words, things work and work well.

EU pledge to annex Serbia. Its a fact. Don`t call it membership.

Matter of fact is you are begging for it! Grovelling on our our door like a dog wanting into the warmth...;)

That's why we are better than most:

pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/the-new-old-german-problem

...
In the twenty-first century it is politically incorrect to suggest that culture matters, though most privately grant that the German work ethic, cohesiveness, and competence all lead to economic and financial clout that eventually ends in superior political - and ultimately military - power.

:)

That's why again during the biggest world economy crisis Europe is begging Germany for help even as Germany was hit by the same crisis and still has to shoulder the burden of incorporating a whole country (Eastern Germany) and bringing it up to standards (something it got NO help from the others with).

That's why right now the others hang onto Germany's again booming economy and hope we will help them to survive...little 'ol Germany shouldering again much more than anybody else and is still expected to somehow make it through without much fuss!

Tell me we are NOT better than the rest!
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Yes but you joined it ;)

No, I didn't...I just answered some anti-german sh'it with some anti-polish sh'it...somebody has to! (To keep the balance you know?) :)

I think there is a strong case for arguing that lands here are German but why isn't there any momentum now?

Erm...why? The borders are open, we are close economical and military allies now...any German can go where he wants...if he is an expellee (or an descendant) he can relocate when and where he wants to....our both people never had it so good, stable, on the way to becoming prosperous, peaceful...

(Okay...the polish football is still a sore on the eyes and they need to work on that!)

What should a "momentum" gain us what we not already have???

Quite the contrary....any new ******** between our people because of things happening 3 generations back would make sure our future generations losing all that what we now have again...it would be suicide!
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

thank you. You are very objective.

Yeah...that's why Kosovo belongs still to Serbia (instead of in their wet dreams only) ROFL

Serious NATO war against Serbia would be actually end of NATO.

Been there, done that....*yawn*

There is no Serbia to fight anymore....you are already knocking on EU-doors, begging for entry!
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Serbia in 90 fought against all NATO, with interesting result.

I ( as a Pole) prefer Serbians than Germans as far as millitar ally. They are simply better soldiers.

Yeah...they lost, didn't they? Cut down to sitze....holy (lost forever) Kosovo anyone?

Please do...we want to have a laugh! :)

Isn`t. BB

It is.

Typical polish macho talk again here...totally overestimating polish power again...like "In Berlin in one week" August 1939..ROFL

I don't remember kissing french ass in 1918.

Well, you should...after all they gave you your country. Without the Treaty of Versailles you would still speak German.
And play for the german football Mannschaft...oopsie! :)

You kicked nobody's ass for a very long time now!
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Poland needs to take more land from Germans, they do not deserve even exist on this planet

"Deserve"??? ROFL

Says who??? You? Survival of the fittest baby! :)
Between us it's clear who is the stronger, isn't it? Proven several time in recent history. Do you as the weakling in the family "deserve" anything???

Kiss french arse for your independence in 1918.
Kiss russian arse for saving you from obliteration by the Nazis during WWII!
Kiss american arse for the iron curtain and the fall of it!
Kiss german arse for getting into the EU and becoming our happy backyard.

What do you "deserve"?

Heh:)

Now a laugh for the night
...
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Silesia is here but not changing hands any time soon :)

I might buy some estate there some time in the future! ;)

To bad poland could only make 140 of those before the war broke out....

Don't sweat it...the french had much more and it didn't help them...
Bratwurst Boy   
27 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

tell me sth. about other polish mythes;)

Bismarcks Kulturkampf being solely directed against Poles to opress especially them.

That being a Pole in Prussia had been pure terror...

That Germans eat polish babies for breakfast..

...wait...

Becouse in Prussia they had to pay high taxes, it was militerized country when in poland taxes were low

Yeah, well..there is a reason that Prussia was so advanced...all this infrastructure and industrialisations has to be paid by someone.
Also Bismarcks welfare laws (which had been also for polish workers) had been expensive...

Mostly agrarian Poland had less taxes with good reason!
Bratwurst Boy   
27 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Why? You wanna hang a print on the wall? xD

I wanted to make a joke

*damn my german humourlessness* :(

this is a german eagle in wroclaw/breslau:

Needs some more german Bratwurst...looks so tiny!

But don't try to use some kinda nationalistic german solidarity thingy that germanic people had some special connection to each other.

As long Poles speak of polish this and polish that from the same time far back, making everything a polish/german national clash I am allowed to speak of german this and german that...only fair! :)

But yes, they had of course a connection with each other....they could understand each other shared the same customs, law and traditions...even Tacitus described them already 2000 years back as a people easily distinguishable from their neighbours.

How do you think such a tribes federation like the Franks came to pass in the first place?
Bratwurst Boy   
27 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

No, actually, this is Germany's Coat of Arms in 2010:

Any link for that?

But the flags don't mean much really.

Well...someone who denies the "German nation" in "Holy Roman Empire" should see it.

Flags mean alot...insignias are history pure and tell their own stories. Poles take their flags and insignia very seriously...as every other people does too.

Yes indeed he was german, did he care? Nah he exploited the poor swabians and saxons and the rest of the other "germanic" tribes.

Yeah...no nationstates back then.
Oh wonder :)

And you can cut out the hyphens from germanic tribes...because that's what they were. ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
27 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

I was just asking...:)

Actually that is a cross pattée, derived from the maltese cross, it was used by Crusaders throughout Europe.

Do you have a link to that explanation.
The german cross was used by many (inclusive the Teutonic Order and now the german Bundeswehr).
Bratwurst Boy   
27 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Charlemagne was not a German king.. He was king of the germans ;)

In Germany he's known as Karl der Große. Leader of the Franks. "Frank" being an oldish word for "free"...as in "Frank und Frei".

The Franks were a loose confederation of german tribes who gave France their name
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks

His capital was Aachen and he was German :)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne

He was a frankish king exploiting the Germanic lands...

Which one doesn't! ;)

But he was also the one who sowed the seeds for later France, Germany and Italy.
One of the most important figures in european history!

Carolus Magnus or Karolus Magnus, meaning Charles the Great; possibly 742 - 28 January 814) was King of the Franks from 768 and Emperor of the Romans (Imperator Romanorum) from 800 to his death.
He expanded the Frankish kingdom into an empire that incorporated much of Western and Central Europe.

geni.com/people/Charlemagne-Emperor-of-the-West/6000000002457013227

The EU is actually his empire second try. ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
27 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Well the coat of arm changed dramatically from double-edged to single-edged and i wouldn't call the one germany got today "Original". So no it's not so old since the shape changed to much.

First:

...
Later, through its imperial insignium of the golden eagle (cf. adler), referred to in German as the Reichsadler, on German soil probably date back to the time of Charlemagne (742-814). Around the year 1200 the black eagle icon on a gold field was generally recognised as the imperial coat of arms.

Then:

...
In 1433 the double-headed eagle was adopted for the first time by the Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund. Since then the double-headed eagle came to be used as the symbol of the German emperor, and hence as the coat of arms of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation.

Then back to today

The German Empire re-introduced the Medieval single headed eagle in a golden shield.

The so called Reichsadler, was already introduced at the Proclamation of Versailles, although the first version had been only a provisional one. The design of the eagle had been altered at least twice during the German Empire (1871-1918). It shows the imperial eagle, a realistic black eagle, with the crown of the Holy Roman Empire.

...I prefer the one-headed eagle...

Clan of Ostoja

Is it my tired eyes or does the clan have the german cross on their shield???

Ostoja coats of arms
Bratwurst Boy   
27 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Actually it looked like this

That's the same just from another artist...but it's the same, really! ;)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Germany

The coat of arms of Germany is a sign of Germany; the coat of arms features an eagle. The colours of the coat of arms are similar to those of the flag of Germany (black, red and gold). Together with the Austrian coat of arms, which has the same history, it is the oldest extant state symbols of Europe and is among the oldest insignia in the world.

There might lay the misunderstanding...

:)
Bratwurst Boy   
27 Aug 2010
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

My family stems from lower Silesia...several little towns besides Breslau. I see myself as a German Silesian.
I'm very interested in Polish-German topics. I came to like many Poles here on the forum and I'm interested in Poland now generally.

But there is so much crap floating in polish minds...I blame the skewed commie history lessons in school.

But things get better...Poles open up to their German heritage instead of denying it...I'm glad if I can be of help!