Work / Information about jobs for Indian students in Poland [286]

A bachelors degree in business administration from a course taught in English at a Polish university is worth nothing on the job market in any country, including Poland.

A bachelors degree in business administration from just about any university in the world is not worth much, either. The world needs people with degrees in business like it needs cockroaches or rats. Everyone, their mother and their dog seem to have business degrees these days.

You would be much better off studying a field that involves a lot of high-level advanced applied mathematics, like econometrics (not economics), financial mathematics (not finance), financial engineering or actuarial sciences. There are far to many graduates in non-math fields competing for too few jobs. High-level advanced applied mathematics skills, on the other hand, are in desperate demand.

Law / Want to divorce wife - Need Help (married in Poland) [9]

The best way to do that is to get a good, experienced attorney who knows what they're doing. If you try to go this alone, it can end up costing you an arm, a leg, and a kidney or two.

Law / Want to divorce wife - Need Help (married in Poland) [9]

Why not ask your attorney?

Work / Master's degree and job opportunities in Poland [7]

@TunaHa

Pretty much one of the worst things to study in Poland, or just about anywhere else, unless you have solid, preferably family, connections high up in the field. In most countries, law is a closed field that does not make it easy for outsiders to join. Most Poles who study law in Poland never work a single day in the field, and the same is true for just about every developed country. Also, as SigSauer says, the Turkish community in Poland is tiny, and it's going to be hard to find enough clients to make a living income. In Germany, you will face fierce competition from the hoards of Turkish-German law graduates who would sell their mothers for any type of law-related job.

If you want to be able to find a job abroad, then study something with lots and lots of advanced applied mathematics, like petroleum engineering, geological engineering, biomedical engineering, econometrics (not economics), financial engineering (not finance), financial mathematics or actuarial sciences. The one thing employers are desperate for is people who can do high-level applied mathematics.

Life / Fees for Polish person to receive international call from USA to Poland [5]

@hellsing81

They don't have a laptop or desktop, either? Sounds sorta dumb paying big bucks for phone calls when Skype video calling is free.

Also, there are plenty of hot spots in Poland with free wifi, so they don't need a data plan.

Life / Fees for Polish person to receive international call from USA to Poland [5]

@hellsing81

Why don't you use Skype? It's free.

Law / Poland says My MARRIAGE is NOT VALID [3]

@pankaj3009

The only person who can answer your questions is your attorney. It's a total waste of time asking anyone else's opinion or advice.

Law / Citizenship of baby born in Poland - Foreign Parents [17]


No. The baby is allowed to stay in Poland only as long as the parents are. Not longer.

News / Roman Polanski accused of unlawful sex with a minor [403]


Sending 35 unwanted private messages went way beyond the realm of thought and deep into action territory. Sorry, Lyzko, but there is something deeply troubling about that.

Travel / Do I need an invitation to enter Poland as a tourist? [53]

@md juel.miah

You can't unless you personally know someone very well in Poland who would be willing to take financial and legal responsibility for you and apply for an official invitation with the local authorities. Even with an official personal invitation, your visa application is likely to be denied as you cannot prove that you have any intention of leaving the Schengen zone when your visa expires.

Sorry, but it seems to me to be a waste of time and money applying for a visa that you will almost certainly not be granted.

News / Eggs in Poland paying for the 550+ [8]


Dairy overproduction has long been a severe problem in just about every developed country for decades. The US is engaged in a bitter dairy war with Canada at the moment, as is Russia is with Belarus. The dairy war in Europe has been going on since the early 1970s, and is a constant source of tension, involving countries as far away as New Zealand.

Love / Polish women and Romance [9]

@James890

Not a victim myself, but I have had close friends who were ripped off in similar schemes. One which was practically identical to your case. He lost tens of thousands of dollars before he came to his senses and cut her out of his life.

Love / Polish women and Romance [9]

@James890

It has nothing to do with her being Polish. It has to do with the fact that she needs money to fund long, drawn-out and costly divorce proceedings, and she is looking for some dumb sucker to pay the costs for her. You will find women like this all over the world: in Poland, in Germany, in Africa. When women like this look at a gullible individual like you, they see MUGU, and they will treat you like MUGU, and you have only yourself to blame.

Work / Cost of living Warsaw, Poland for family of 2+1 (7 month baby) [13]

Probably not. The only type of workers from India that are in demand in Poland are qualified professionals with several years experience in IT or finance/accounting, preferably with a strong emphasis on quantitative methods.

She can try to get a job BEFORE she comes to Poland. She will almost certainly not get one after she arrives in Poland.

Really, you should give up on coming to Poland and look for a job in a richer country like Germany or the UK. Earnings in Poland are way too low to support a family. Anything having to do with children is especially expensive, including babysitting, daycare, baby food, baby formula and baby clothes.

Work / Cost of living Warsaw, Poland for family of 2+1 (7 month baby) [13]

@Aarav

Almost certainly not. If they cannot find a job with a Polish employer BEFORE they come to Poland, they will not get one after they come to Poland. And as far as "agencies" or "recruiters" or "consultants" go, any that promise to help you get a work permit for a fee are all frauds and scam artists that take advantage of ignorant, gullible and desperate poor people. The only demand for workers from India in Poland is for experienced qualified IT or finance/accounting professionals. There is zero demand for unskilled workers.

Coming to Poland from India with family members doesn't make any sense unless you are earning very high wages. Otherwise, it is better to come alone and leave the family back home in India. If you want to bring family along, then look for a job in countries that are richer than Poland, like the UK and Germany.

Who is this other dependent you are speaking of? It is extremely difficult to get a dependent visa for anyone except your wife and minor children.

Work / Cost of living Warsaw, Poland for family of 2+1 (7 month baby) [13]

@Aarav

I just answered a question similar to this yesterday and broke down the costs:

First is your total travel and relocation expenses: airline tickets, visas, residence permits, shipping and all other travel and relocation related expenses. Spread that out over your first years income, and that comes to 1000 to 1500 PLN a month right there, just so that the three of you can be in Poland.

A one-bedroom apartment is going to cost from 2200 to 2700 PLN a month, all inclusive except for TV/Phone/Internet, which will cost from 100 to 200 PLN a month extra.

Transit tickets for two adults will be around 200 a month.

Food and regular household supplies for three adults and a baby is going to cost from 1000 to 2000 a month. Less if you cook all meals at home from scratch using cheap local ingredients in season, more if you eat away from home, eat beef or lamb, or cook with more expensive foreigner ingredients or produce out of season. Baby food and baby formula are rather expensive.

You'll need to budget about 500 PLN a month for occasional expenses like furniture, bedclothes, clothing and the like.

And you'll have to budget about 1000 PLN a month for entertainment, recreation, hobbies, babysitting and a very basic vacation. The non-working individual will need some diversion from sitting at home all day and taking care of the kid. Otherwise, they are going to go stir-crazy, especially in winter.

So you're looking at at least 11,000 PLN a month gross right there, and that's without any saving or return trips to India. To live a good life, meaning with modest savings, you will need at least 16,000 PLN a month. More if you expect to take trips back to India.

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]

@Raddit

Really? Nothing much. Surgical face masks are useless. You'll just have to live with it, like the locals do.

Work / Salary & cost of living in Warsaw, Poland [29]

Let's break down the costs.

First is your total travel and relocation expenses: airline tickets, visas, residence permits, shipping and all other travel and relocation related expenses. Spread that out over your first years income, and that comes to 1500 to 2000 PLN a month right there, just so that the four of you can be in Poland.

A two-bedroom apartment is going to cost from 2700 to 3200 PLN a month, all inclusive except for TV/Phone/Internet, which will cost from 100 to 200 PLN a month extra.

Transit tickets for three adults will be around 300 a month.

Food and regular household supplies for three adults and a baby is going to cost from 1500 to 2500 a month. Less if you cook all meals at home from scratch using cheap local ingredients in season, more if you eat away from home. eat beef or lamb, or cook with more expensive foreigner ingredients or produce out of season. Baby food and baby formula are rather expensive.

You'll need to budget about 500 PLN a month for occasional expenses like furniture, bedclothes, clothing and the like.

And you'll have to budget about 1000 PLN a month for entertainment, recreation, hobbies and babysitting. The two non-working individuals will need some diversion from sitting at home all day and taking care of the kid. Otherwise, they are going to go stir-crazy, especially in winter.

So you're looking at at least 12,000 PLN a month gross right there, and that's without any saving or return trips to India. To live a good life, meaning with modest savings, you will need at least 18,000 PLN a month. More if you expect to take trips back to India.

Work / Is it possible that a Moroccan get a job in Poland? [7]

@Goodday

Teaching English is not possible because she is not a native speaker of English. Any teaching jobs for non-native speakers would go to Poles.

Working in a hotel is unlikely because she doesn't speak Polish. Any jobs would go to Ukrainians.

Working in a call center or data-entry (SSC) is a long shot. EU residents get priority for those jobs. Arabic is not in much demand, and French is not a high-demand language. Another problem is that these jobs pay rather poorly, and it is difficult to get work permits for low-paying jobs. Again, EU residents get priority.

She can try, but I wouldn't hold my breath. If your coming to Poland is contingent on her accompanying you, it would be wise to make alternative plans.

Work / What salaries are for IT specialists (Senior QA Engineer) in Poland? [59]

@vishrocks21

Berlin is not in Poland. This is a Polish forum. Ask on a German forum.

Work / Salary & cost of living in Warsaw, Poland [29]


From India? Essentially zero. Your dependents would not be able to work in Poland, so forget about that.

Work / Salary & cost of living in Warsaw, Poland [29]


Unfortunately, it does happen, particularly for unskilled workers. There is absolutely no demand for unskilled workers from outside of the EU or the Ukraine in Poland, so if you see that type of work advertised, be very skeptical. If an "agent", "consultant" or "recruiter" is promising you a job that does not require a degree and experience in IT or finance/accounting, chances are that the job is not legitimate.

Run if any "agent", "consultant" or "recruiter" asks you to pay a fee to find you work or get you a visa. These are always criminals.

There are a lot of scams that prey on desperate, gullible and ignorant poor people from third world countries. The worst is when criminals tell job seekers that they will arrange to work for them in Europe. When they arrive, they are killed and their organs are harvested and sold on the black market.

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]

@Raddit

Do your research and do the math carefully. Explore opportunities to expand your skill set. And good luck wherever you end up!

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]


No, I don't. I've been keeping up with current prices and they have increased only modestly in the last three years, even in Warsaw. 1500 PLN for a room in a shared apartment is far beyond the market average in Kraków, unless you are talking about the Starówka or vacation rentals, neither of which is of any interest to the OP.

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]

@terri

I lived in Poland for twelve years. In Wrocław, which is comparable in terms of cost of living in Poland. 5k net is enough to live a decent life for a recent graduate, and even a junior employee, from within the EU. It won't be the high life, for sure, but it will be more than tolerable. There won't be much in terms of savings, which is a bigger problem, because I define comfort in terms of savings. But there are probably few better jobs in Portugal for the OP unless he improves his qualifications and gets some experience. If I were a young recent grad, I would focus on building up my qualifications and aggressively, obsessively building up my personal network of real-world professional contacts so that I could find a better job in the future, even if it meant staying with mom and dad in the interim. The thing about the job in Poland is not whether the pay is too low to survive, but if the experience will help the OP advance. If the OP's sole saleable skill at the moment is his ability to speak Portuguese as a native, I would be skeptical about that.

A small studio apartment, all inclusive, rent, administration fees and all utilities except phone/internet/TV, is going to cost about 1500 to 2000 PLN at the most. A room in an apartment half that.

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]


The ONLY bare number that actually counts for working expats when comparing two jobs anywhere is savings potential, or how much you can put in the bank at the end of the month. Raw wages and raw cost of living are absolutely meaningless except in how they affect savings potential. The only other financial factor that can be taken into account is impact on future earnings, or, rather, savings potential.

Those highly paid managerial folks who come from rich countries to Poland are exactly what I described above: they are being paid in western wages. They are the chosen few for whom moving to Poland does actually sometimes make sense. Most westerners, on the other hand, are not going to be able to earn western wages while in Poland, and therefore will experience a huge drop in savings potential. The opportunity cost of moving to Poland is staggeringly high for most westerners, even without the language barrier.

As for Portugal vs. Poland, they are so similar in level for income and job opportunities that the difference in income may not match the cost of losing one's home court advantage. Not being in your own country comes with a cost. You lose your network of friends and family, you are handicapped by not being able to speak the local language, and opportunities for self-improvement, further education, professional advancement and professional networking are fewer and more expensive, Also, there is a big difference between the cost of living for a Pole living in Poland and that of a foreigner living in Poland.

All in all, I think better options for the OP are either to stay in Portugal and take advantage of the opportunities available to him to improve his qualifications there, or move to a richer country than Poland like Germany or the UK where savings potential is much higher than in Poland.

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]

@idem

The local purchasing power of the median wage generally increases with the local median wage, and Poland is no exception to that rule. That means the local median wage can buy more, the percentage of the local median wage needed to maintain the same lifestyle decreases, and savings potential dramatically increases. In other words, the percentage increase in wages when you go from Country A to Country B is practically always higher than the percentage increase in the cost of living the same lifestyle. Savings potential is the most important financial number for working expats. That is why workers flock to richer countries, and flee from poorer countries. Very few workers from the richer countries of western Europe, for example, would even consider working in Poland. The downgrade in savings potential would be staggering.

Poland comes in pretty low in terms of local purchasing power and very low in terms of saving potential. Savings potential is by far the most important financial number for working expats. Savings potential in Poland takes a double hit: not only are local wages lower, but the percentage of that that you have to spend to live the same lifestyle is higher, leaving a lot less left over to put in the bank at the end of the month.

Poland is only cheap if you are receiving western wages while working there, or if you are receiving a fixed income like a trust fund or retirement pension. But relative to prevailing wages in Poland, the cost of living is quite high.

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]

@Raddit

You had better check with the employer to see if they are specifically including any of these perks in your contract. Don't assume you are getting anything unless it's on paper.

Work / Salary & cost of living in Warsaw, Poland [29]


Very few Indians who come to Poland even bother learning the basics of the language. It would be a waste of time. Practically none of them have any intention of staying in Poland for long. The goal is to get into the richer countries in the West, particularly the UK. Legally if possible, and illegally if not. Even learning the basics of the language would take longer than they intend to stay.

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]


No. I have never heard of that.

The main thing you will lose by coming to Poland is your home court advantage. In Portugal, you know the language and culture, and have learned how to live more cheaply with the help of your family and friends. In Poland, you won't have any of this, which is why I said it is more expensive for a foreigner to live in Poland than a native Pole.

The other thing you will lose is the opportunity to improve your qualifications. You have opportunities available to you in Portugal to take courses and get certificates at a lot lower cost than you would in Poland.

It is also a lot easier for you to network in Portugal to find a better job than to do so in Poland. Since the best jobs are advertised face to face, person to person in the real world, networking is by far the most important thing you should be thinking of at the moment in terms of job advancement and self-improvement.