Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]


Kettle to pot... copy?


Still doesn't make you any smarter than a Sudanese Professor of History at an established University.

Of course, you're entitled to think you know it all, still acting like that just makes you look an idiot.


And here's an even better reason:

We give a ****.

Other cultures, very often dominated/created by people with not-so-white skin, don't.

But I don't expect a guy who missed the race-based conflict in Sudan while supposedly being there to understand that :-)


I guess I'll have to repeat:

Quit putting words in my mouth or quoting me out of context, boy.

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]

So basically you're saying that you know better than a guy who's been born in Sudan, is an assistant professor and dedicated his all academic life towards researching the subject?

Since laws of probability point towards him being right and you talking nonsense again I will not discuss it further, my point has been proven and arguing with you right now is like talking to a spoiled 5 year old. You think you know better. Everyone whose brain works on logic pretty much noticed that you don't have a clue.


Nope, it is an important issue since it proves that you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Next thing we know you'll be telling us how to build atom bombs, because you're a nuclear physicist working in a secret facility in New Mexico, 50 feet underground.


Quit putting words in my mouth or quoting me out of context, boy.

What I wrote was:


And I stand by that statement.

The broadly defined Western-European culture seems to be the only one that badly interested in exploring and fighting against racism. We're the ones commissioning studies, we're the ones creating policies etc.

For the Japanese, let's use this example, the gajin/non-gajin differentiation is exactly what most of them consider "the norm".

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]


Sure, they just all conspired against you and you're the guy who's got the real scoop, after all you're the one in Sudan right now.

More articles:

repository.berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/110523Sudan%5BFINAL%5D.pdf


OMG, someone let Georgetown know they got it all wrong, there is only one race is Sudan.

oneworld-publications.com/pdfs/Sudan_SP.pdf


Guy who wrote the book a bit from which I quoted above is a bloody professor of history at Loyola Marymount, L.A. and happens to have been born in Sudan:

mediaresearchhub.ssrc.org/jok-madut-jok/person_view

Again, someone should tell him he's making this stuff about Sudan being biracial and in conflict over racial issues up, I mean it could affect his future in academia if anyone finds out.

Johnny, you've been talking about things you haven't got a slightest idea about all day long today in this thread and this last bit of yours about there supposedly being only one race in Sudan proves it.

Unless you're younger than 15 I suggest you get some education before talking about such things in the future.

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]


Well, if you're in Sudan it is obvious you're in Sudan on planet Mars or planet Mercury, not the one on planet Earth.

1 minute of google-search brings this: csmonitor.com/2004/0714/p09s02-coop.html

Care to explain why did you just claim that "everyone in Sudan is of the same race"?

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]


Lol.

And hasn't it occurred to you, boy genius, that in some corners of the world ( hint, hint, not the ones where people with lighter skin are the dominant race ) racism is as much a part of the "natural order" of things that nobody even plans to research it, much less combat it?


Can't help it if the truth is funny.

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]


As I told you, racism is a trait that can be found in people of all shapes, sizes and colors. Very often in non-white people.

Can't help it that you've been too brainwashed to see it.

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]


Well, this is pot... calling kettle back.


What's the problem? I just suggested that you might be racist by claiming Amin, a strong, black leader allowed other ( white ) people to shape his policy

Show a bit more respect to a black male's right to rule by himself, otherwise you're racist.


Well, it also doesn't lessen the fact that skaf and his 7 lebanese friends were a racist bunch of rapists. Hence racism - not only a trait of white people.


Wait, wait, wait... Are you actually saying that a person of color other than white might actually be racist?

That's a huge step forward, bravo.


Bunch of crock if there ever was one.

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]


Sorry, 403 error here, says: "You don't have permission to access".

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]

No, I mean it is perfectly ok to scream "hate crime" and "racism" every time a black person gets slapped by a white person ( you know, due to that slavery thing from waay back ) but if gangs of blacks target white women for rape or white farmers for murder and robbery in South Africa, then nah, it is just regular crime folks. < sarcasm >

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]


Said the guy who claimed I'm being rude.


Which obviously means the evil white man ruled through him. I don't know if you noticed, but you've just been racist by suggesting Amin ( a black guy ) didn't have the wits to make his own decisions.


This has nothing whatsoever to do with Bilal Skaf and the gang-rapes which were, I have to point out, called ethnically driven hate crimes by various Australian officials.

Basically you're the type of guy that's going to cry racism every time a white guy does something to a member of another race, pointing out various things that happened ages ago, but if the white guy is a victim in a similiar situation you'll keep watering it down to xenophobia, crime etc.

No logic in that.

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]

1.


Which of course in turn makes it ok for black men to rape white women over there, murder white farmers and all that.

So I take it this behaviour is ok in your book and doesn't constitute black-on-white racism?

2.


Great. Then please be so kind and quit making moronic statements about racism being largely a thing that affects only white people.

3. Let's continue with examples:

Back in 1972 ( you probably don't remember ) Uganda was ruled by bloke called Idi Amin. Guy was as black as they came.

Out of the blue he announced that he had a dream and in this dream God told him that all people of Indian descent ( and/or other Asians, don't recall correctly ) were to leave the country. Gave them two months or so to pack up their ****, sell what they couldn't pack and leave. It was implied that the ones that wouldn't would bite a bullet.

Whole affair had ******* to do with white people.

There. Black on Indian racism? Or perhaps you have another name for it?

4. Around 2000 in Australia of all places a chap named Bilal Skaf ( Lebanese ) went around with a bunch of his pals ( 6? 7? ) gang-raping white women. One of the victims was told that it was ok to rape her since she was Australian.

Racism? Just another day at the office? Care to comment?

Basically you made a completely unfounded statement claiming that racism was pretty much white people's problem, while in reality it affects all races equally.


Take your threats somewhere else.

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]

johnny - you argue like a 5 year old boy with ADHD.

No arguments whatsover, I'm right, you're wrong, etc.

And when I give you the taste of your own medicine you cry for arguments.


So bear in mind that as long as you'll keep making idiotic statements like the one I just quoted above people will either ask whether you are running a fever or will just laugh at you. I pretty much did the latter.

Perhaps you never left a country where white happens to be a dominant race and hence are simply not qualified to speak on the subject.

Throwing in a few short examples since I have a bit of time:

a) The Japanese have a formal term for outsider - "gajin" - which is most often associated with people of other race and/or nationality. Offering preferential treatment to non-gajin is quite frankly the norm in Japanese society.

b) Granting citizenship to outsiders coming to work in a country and hailing from another racial group is a concept completely alien towards most places dominated by Arabs - Saudi Arabia, Dubai, etc.

c) While you're at it you might also check up on the crime rates in South Africa and on black-on-white crime over there,

This list could probably go down to "q" or "s". So, johnny, stop writing about stuff you don't know anything about. Or go get an education.

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]

Got anything to back up your outrageous claims besides saying that the stuff you don't agree with is "silly"?


That's putting it rather mildly :-)

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]

Yes yes yes. Racism is a largely non-white on white phenomena. Anything else is a drop in the ocean. Stop trolling.

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]


Not true.

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]


I am in no way blaming the threadstarter for anyone's actions.

I am quite simply pointing out that him complaining about Poland not being a modern country and "polish being do like this" ( that's a quote ) are a bit odd, since he comes from a country where such things happen routinely.

I also called him out on his claim that such stuff never happens in Egypt.

Bottom line here seems to be pretty straight-forward:

We all choose our place of residence, doing business, etc. often on the basis on where we feel most comfortable in. If he doesn't feel comfortable in Poland with all these evil racists running about he should probably take his lovely bride and move back to Egypt, which according to his claims, is a paradise where such stuff never happens.

Love / Expat marrying Polish - honest experiences [38]


Well, to sum up - it is about a female, being most likely Indian ( other threads she started/contributed to point towards it ), starting a thread named "expat marrying Polish", asking "what it is like to be in an interracial marriage here in Poland" then getting severely pissed off when people ( I for one ) assumed she was marrying a Polish guy, almost to a point where one would think she considers marrying a bloke from Poland being tantamount to having babies with a man-eating tiger.

Pretty much a complete synopsis :-)

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]



Of course. Visited both countries numerous times. Being Jewish and having been born in Poland I feel a lot better in Poland.


Name one part of my post that was racist. Otherwise do away with the bullshit.

You said that if a foreigner was in your country you'd never ever touch them and so forth. I quoted that part and easily showed that you're feeding us complete bollocks by linking the news about the Lara Logan rape. If anyone doesn't know or hasn't read the link - an American journalist, Lara Logan, was sexually assaulted and beaten nearly to death by Egyptians while she was doing a piece on Egyptian revolution. Pretty much on the basis of her being white, American, blonde and pretty. Army had to be called in to separate her from a group of about 100 egyptian males that were sexually assaulting and beating her.

I assume ell here is going to tell us such stuff happens in Poland every other day, lol.

Now since I caught you trying to feed us a bullshit line you're doing the usual muslim male routine - "it is just 1 single exception, doesn't mean anything," etc., etc. And calling me racist, which is also a typical defence, every time someone says something that a muslim male doesn't like the "You're racist" is bound to follow shortly.

So again - take your bullshit somewhere else.

If a Polish guy ( or even better - me being Jewish ) ever spent any amount of time walking around in Cairo or some other egyptian place with an egyptian female, doing the public kissing routine - well, things most likely wouldn't end up too well for him and the girl. I wouldn't be surprised if such a couple got killed and no perps were ever found. Btw., how are you boys in egypt doing trying to find and prosecute the animals that raped Lara Logan? Any success?

So it is just as I said - clean up your own backyard, then you can come over and complain about your neighbours not cleaning up theirs.

In black and white: As long as your own people in groups of about 100 sexually assault, rape and beat white woman for being white and american you are in no position to call others racist.


Spot on, sir.

I live in the UK, have travelled extensively, Poland's where I'm usually at nowadays ( business ) but France, Holland, Belgium - I've been there often. And I don't see a single reason why Poland should repeat what is now slowly being seen as a huge mistake - massive, uncontrolled import of muslims ( from Pakistan, Egypt, Iraq, Maghreb, etc. ) who simply don't want to adapt to European culture.

Poland will be much better off having the Polonia from Kazakhstan or some other wonderland coming back or importing Ukrainians and Belorussians ( similiar culture ).

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]

As I said = no legal obligation to report it means that there could be absolutely no mention of it anywhere. Especially if it was qualified under art. 217 of the Polish Criminal Code Period, in which case the injured party has to file what's called a "prywatny akt oskarzenia" and the prosecutor doesn't get involved most of the time.

Doesn't change a thing though - **** happens and the guy, being egyptian, really shouldn't be doing the preaching over here.

Life / Racism and for what? (story of Egyptian guy's living in Poland) [149]

1. Bartekk - you are a jerk and you're trying to jerk people off here.

Name the legal basis which binds the Polish Police to release any information about such crimes to the media or anyone else for that matter.

I'm quite conversant in most of Polish law ( criminal isn't my specialty though ) and I'll tell you right now - there is no legal obligation on the Police or the Prosecutor to release any information regarding any crime whatsoever. Sometimes they talk to the press. But they have no obligation to do so whatsoever.

And records of criminal proceedings as such are sealed to the general population in Poland.

So stop feeding us crap.

2. ell

Yes, it is a shame what happened.

But as someone kindly pointed out to you - this stuff happens. Period. In all countries. If You can't handle it - move somewhere else.


Complete and utter bollocks.

I'm pretty sure most white, non-muslim people would get killed if they openly dated ( or married ) a muslim woman in Egypt. So stop feeding us this usually muslim male BS.

And regarding how Egyptians treat "guests":

abcnews.go.com/US/cbs-reporter-lara-logan-discusses-sexual-assault-cairo/story?id=13504974

She got all that for being white.

So don't bull**** us, pal. Until your people stop doing such **** you, being egyptian, are really the last guy on earth to be giving others tips on behaviour. Clean up your own backyard before you start knocking on your neighbours' doors.

Love / Is the Polish wife the boss? [33]


It is so great to see all the sages from Pakistan come over here and share their wisdom with us.

Just keep in mind boys that if you show a woman "who is in charge" a tad too drastically ( like with your hand or boot ) in Eastern Europe you will likely end up in jail where a burly and hairy lad named Wanya or Josif will continue to stick his baguette up your asses until your colons rupture :-)

Love / Help - evil Polish girl after my partner. [39]

Right, yet I fail to see 20 posts screaming "She's a bloody lunatic, stay the hell away from her."

In my opinion until a specialist manages to cure her condition it is unsafe to spend any significant amount of time within this person's presence.

Love / Help - evil Polish girl after my partner. [39]






One or two ideas actually and none of them include rich, handsome and young men.

I've skimmed through what You wrote, quoted the interesting bits and my conclusion is simple - You madam are dealing with someone who either has mental issues a professional should look at or an acute case of the "Polish Princess" syndrome ( it is debatable whether the latter should be treated by shrinks ).

In case it is the latter the girl's reaction is most likely triggered by the fact that You happen to be local and Your partner happens to be Polish. And I personally noticed that quite a few Polish women for some reason firmly believe that while they as Polish females own the world and are free to mingle romantically with guys from all over, Polish men ( especially attractive Polish men ) should stick to Polish women no matter what. Not particularly logical, but that's the way some of them see it, must have something to do with upbringing.

Whichever case it might be - should You continue any form of semi-friendly relationship with her You'll most likely end up regretting it later. As in "You've been cheated on/dumped/somebody claims You cut them with a razor".

So, make sure Your man is onboard with that, then tell that little snotty Polish tart in no uncertain terms that You've had more than enough of her shenanigans and that she should leave Your man alone. Then just cut her the hell off and make sure Your boyfriend avoids her like the plague.

Love / Advice on a Polish girlfriend who suddenly stopped contact. [32]


Seconded.

I've seen it happen quite a few times, a woman from Eastern Europe ( not always Polish but very often ) simply "forgetting" to tell guys she meets in the UK that she's got a boyfriend/fiancee/husband ( lol ) back in Poland waiting for her and then just proceeding to go with the flow, one guy here, the other guy there, see what Boyo a does, see what Boyo b does, a shag here, a shag there and so on.

Such women aren't worth the trouble. If You, heaven forbid, ever marry her, rest assured that You'll be sharing that particular minx with at least half-a-dozen other gents that You'll never find out about.

Edit:

Oh, if You're really flush with cash there's an alternative method of obtaining the heart and soul of an Eastern European woman:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211676/Goldman-Sachs-banker-offered-28-year-old-Slovakian-500-000-leave-pensioner-husband.html

Promise her 500.000 quid if she marries You and throw in that You'll kill Yourself if she stays with the other gent. Should do the trick nicely, according to the article above.

Real Estate / Buying a property in Poland to rent out from the UK [82]

Guys, guys, guys... ( and girls ).

Plz read up on this VERY carefully:

Foreign investor, properties in Poland, walk away from mortgages?

Especially the part regarding the mortgage payment / rental income ratio.

Granted, guy bought them when the prices were rather high.

The Polish real estate market ( apartments most of all ) is pretty much cornered by the banks nowadays, they cover both sides of the fence. You can expect a "less stagnant" market if and only when the banks that are present in Poland relax their lending policies. Because of the factors present globally that is very unlikely to happen anytime soon.

Love / Advice on a Polish girlfriend who suddenly stopped contact. [32]

With Polish women it is entirely possible that You are her UK boyo and she's got another one in Poland as well. I mean a girl never knows which country she's going to end up living in nowadays hence keeping two secure and cushy landing spots is rather logical, right? <sarcasm>

So what You're experiencing might just be her going through her cooldown period after a Polish guy whom she fed the same BS just proposed with a ring, house and all.

My advice:

Ignore her completely. No contact whatsoever and look the other way when You see her publicly. Start seeing other women.

With her being Polish that's pretty much Your only chance of her sending You a "what's up?" txt after a month or so of such treatment.

The more You try, the more she'll keep going for the other guy ( it might be a hopeless case already ).

So be cold as ice, it is Your only chance.

Best of luck.

Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]


Not really, my permanent place of residence is in London, in a rather affluent part of the city.

Time and time again I've seen colleagues switch their first wife for a younger "upgrade". Usually when they were in their 40's.

None of these guys ever fit the "badboy" profile, almost all were professionals with steady jobs.

Love / Foreign Men and Polish Girls for Citizenship [59]


Congratulations, it has been a while since anyone managed to mangle Shakespeare's native tongue so badly over here.

( Yet I'm rather positive that he puts "fluent" on his CV in the English language box )

Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

Zimmy, to be completely fair, I've seen dozens of guys who never gave off the slightest 'bad boy' vibe and who proceeded to screw the girls they married very badly.

So it is a bit unfair to say that she got what she deserved because she "picked a bad boy" unless You know something that I don't.

Law / Maintenance & Rights: Polish mother & child in Poland, Irish father in the UK [57]


Too true.

Smells like a rather manipulative Polish mum raised in the communist era, a henpecked husband and their assumption that even while he's been gone for a year he's still much better than any local suitors through the sheer virtue of being Irish/foreign.

And right into this brilliant plan barges in our dashing young Irishman with a new girlfriend in tow. I can't even begin to imagine how miffed his baby mama's mum was, especially if his new GF was pretty :-).