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From: Beograd, Serbia
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Natasa   
30 Jun 2011
News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

It's not a submisive position because Poles in other countries can do the same.

I agree it shouldn't be, but what do others think?
Non Poles?
Natasa   
30 Jun 2011
News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

Torq, I think they want to tell that you all (Poland) should be grateful for their 'good will' (PL' s financial benefit of being part of EU) and accept the submissive position.

You disagree. Rightfully, I think. You want equality. (peace as the reason for EU)

If you phrase question in a more direct way, what answer could you get, if they play it honest?

Is Poland equally worth member of EU like Germany, France...etc.?
Natasa   
24 Jun 2011
Off-Topic / Countries and your associations in 5 words/descriptions. [56]

Freud was an Austrian too, but Nathan has him listed under Germany as well.

He was an Austrian, but emphasis is on Jew. In Psychology usually the most prominent names are Jewish .... various citizenships.. It's their field. 'Jewish racket' somebody made fun of psychoanalysis ;)
Natasa   
24 Jun 2011
News / Germany provoke Poland using Silesian question. Poland's attitude ? [124]

I am probably the most pro-German Polish poster on
this forum.

Waaaaas????

I disagree. That noble title is mine. Only mine. We also know why.
Look deep into your soul Torq and think....would you Slavicize, like me ,somebody who's name will remain absolute secret (I will only say that his initials are BB) ? :))
Natasa   
22 Jun 2011
Travel / Which way from Poland to Croatia.... [30]

Natasha's people.

Communists?
Anarchosindicalists?
Feminists?
Gays?

All four categories are paradigmatic pacifists. No need for fear.
;)
Natasa   
21 Jun 2011
History / Why does the idea of a "Slavic Union" with Poland seem so popular on this site? [96]

In my opinion slavic women appearance

I like the warmth I experienced with Slavs in general.

And they are... uninhibited...taste of freedom everywhere, concept of duty unknown :))))

We let the Slavs in to block the Germans from invading.

When will they stop, when, when, when????? or Wann? Wann? Wann? ;)
Natasa   
23 May 2011
History / Poland and Orientalism [115]

All true: but this demonisation of other cultures by attributing irrationality and boundless sexuality to them predates the Age of Empires (and, indeed, the age of Germans) by centuries.

Of course. I knew the Germans didn't invent the phenomenon. They rarely do ;)
But they polished it to perfection.
Natasa   
23 May 2011
History / Poland and Orientalism [115]

The term Orientalism by Said was used to denote the idea of indisputable superiority and some kind of disdain of the West when it "thinks" about different cultures.

The way he used it includes Slavic world, so Poland too. (Said was very specific about what was the western circle - North America, atlantic Europe, mostly EMPIRES that had colonies, there is no Poland in that story)

Maybe it would be good to read the introduction of the Orientalism, and you'll understand what Said wanted to say.

German attitudes to their Slav neighbours, towards whom they harboured an orientalising outlook that saw them, in contrast to German orderliness and rationality, as a force of disorder – and dangerous sexual attraction."

I wrote many times about the same impression regarding whole Slavic world that Germans generously shared with me. I'm thankful for that.

Sexuality is one of their basic fears (f.i., sterilization of polish and other women in WWII).
It is rationalized through various modes of degradation of Slavic women (and men).

Poland cannot be squeezed out of orientalistic discourse.
Integration in EU is one thing, but how Poles and their cultural heritage is seen by the West is another.
Natasa   
21 May 2011
History / Poland and Orientalism [115]

Edward Said, the author of the 1978 landmark tome Orientalism,

I read few years ago only the introduction of Orientalism, and as far as I understood he accused Conrad for imperialism beliefs as well (something like Conrad was simultaneously openly criticizing the imperialism, but also was somebody who implicitly supported the Atlantic Europe and US ideas about the Third world)

I really enjoyed those few lines from Conrad's Nostromo ( one of the characters to the other (American and a British, talking about their investments in Latin America)) :

"But there's no hurry. Time itself has got to wait on the greatest
country in the whole of God's Universe. We shall be giving the
word for everything: industry, trade, law, journalism, art,
politics, and religion, from Cape Horn clear over to Smith's
Sound, and beyond, too, if anything worth taking hold of turns up
at the North Pole. And then we shall have the leisure to take in
hand the outlying islands and continents of the earth. We shall
run the world's business whether the world likes it or not. The
world can't help it--and neither can we, I guess."


That is what caught my attention.
Yes, my impression ( I may be wrong) is that West still silently nurtures patronizing, derogating and disrespectful ideas about everything non western that can at best be portrayed as exotic ! (cultures outside of the privileged circle, of course if they are not assimilated or shaped by the image of the west).

The interesting point and the insight of the Said- one cannot separate the cultural heritage of the West from historical events West participated in through history. Philosophy, literature... was developing mostly in a way that justified the things done by known empires.

Anyway, we are familiar with the effects of that label from the title of Said's book here very well.
Natasa   
17 May 2011
News / Visegrad Battle Group under the command of Poland [261]

Visegrad group + Ukraine would be actually a very smart move!

Bratwurst are you a victim of some Slavicization performed by somebody else (not me! horror!) or you also suffer from something like those disturbing Germanization phases Crow displays from time to time?
Natasa   
15 May 2011
News / Dumbing-down in Polish schools and the Matura [185]

I mean that in german system for example there is clear distinction between theory(Theorie) and practice(Praxis)

Behind those educational systems if i can recall correctly are two different old ideas.

Theory of formal discipline and transfer of knowledge is based on the idea that training in basic mental faculties like logic, memory, Latin language.. will result in spreading of capabilities and transfer of knowledge (that seems like continental European heritage)- from Theory to practice

On the other side are Associationist and Connectioists theories from behaviorists and Thorndike that insisted on learning specific skills firstly, made of basic skills, with the expectancy that vertical transfer from part to whole will occur. (that seems to me to be more present in US)- the opposite direction

I don't know anything about pedagogy, so those who teach here will correct me if I'm wrong. And I just have that vague impression that I am wrong :)
Natasa   
8 May 2011
News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

The biggest tragedy of Ukraine is that it is governed by Ukrainians.It would have better luck if governed by Russians or Poles or even Austrians.

Instantly a headache.

Didn't we reach the consensus about Austrian rule over Slavs on PF? (Torq, for you I will add one wink here, wink! ;))
Natasa   
6 May 2011
Genealogy / Do you think all Slavs are white? [178]

and other brown people from last few hundred years

Oh what a strange post. We are southern "Slavs".
I have brown hair, brown eyes, most members of my family have blue eyes and blond hair. They are then Slavs, and I'm not?

My ancestors are coming from Adriatic coast (most of darker versions are coming from there), where they mixed, not with Muslims surely.

So what? We have at least three subtypes : Typical Slavic (blond, blue eyes), Mediterranean (brown, brown) and Dinaric ( all varieties).
They are all beautiful. And all over their bodies and souls simply Slavs :))))
Natasa   
3 May 2011
News / "Poland is flourishing" [62]

In Spiegel...

Are you posting this for fun or you really treat Spiegel as a reliable source for anything besides ads for cars and insurance and super gunstig chances to get those?
Natasa   
26 Apr 2011
History / Poland's 1945 - 1989 under communism or during socialism? [65]

Here on PF it is common to talk about the Communist past of Poland, although there is no usage of ' during Socialism

I guess it is the same with all ex socialist countries. We were told that we live in socialism and that one day perhaps we will evolve as a society and reach communism like you described. So it was presented as a hardly achievable ideal.

The word communism got devilish connotation (in the West) and it evokes only associations of totalitarian, oppressive regimes and I think it is deliberately used for ex East block past to further devalue the systems that existed, negating few of their good sides.

The winner abused the power to define what that was and attach only negative meanings to it.

It wasn't communism for us. For the West it was.
Natasa   
19 Apr 2011
History / Why did communism in Poland fail? [180]

Personal interests are main human engines. Attempt to found the production processes (free from slavery and mastery)not taking seriously human nature had to fail. That is what the winners of the Cold war, the worshipers of Capital, Profit, Market say. I heard even some psychologists now claim that people are programed to be simple non thinking consumers. Science as usual a b1tch.

Communism failed mostly because of its numerous Own-goals. Again "irreparable" human nature is accused for the final result.
I think people are adaptable by nature. I believe....
:))
Natasa   
9 Apr 2011
Genealogy / Polish person's average height? [210]

This isn't 1945 Lodz, 175cm is short for this day and age. A girl would look great at 175.

:))))

Pennboy you are wise as usual ;)
Lodz, I was 175 after elementary school.

I don't know. Maybe slightly short but most girls would consider that a decent height for a man

I heard some story about some Chinese guy, who lived trough hell, extending his legs, surgeons succeeded to make them 12 cm longer, and his words of triumph after that torture :" Now when I'm 162 cm nobody can say that I'm short".

Everything is relative.
In Asia 175 cm can be giants height.
In most of the Europe probably causing some problems.
Natasa   
7 Apr 2011
Love / Polish girls' attitude towards different kinds of sex [88]

I have noticed that tall women are more comfortable to take it anally.In this regard polish women usually fulfill the qualifications.However most of them do not ask for it really they mostly give it as a gift and usually not in first time.

Hi Southern:)))
Those were the perfect sentences for my black morning coffee. I'm happy that you are back.
I agree with you, I heard women qualify that act as a "gift", there is from what I heard some convincing involved usually. Also, that never happens on the first date.

Social consensus about this is achieved.
Slavdom seems to follow similar rules.
SLAVIJA!!!;)
Natasa   
26 Mar 2011
Feedback / Why PolishForums? Give us your stories! [60]

I was looking for the average height of the European nations :))

Google provided a link to some thread here.

I immediately entered the war zone that included one Greek, one Serb, one Dutchman and a Serb. That was more than enough. It was bloody.

That fact and the lack of abilities needed to resist Bratwursts charm, led to this fall ;)

At the beginning southerns posts were preventing me from leaving.
After that came the addiction and this whole community became very attractive.
Natasa   
8 Mar 2011
History / Slavic vs Germanic thinking.... and the philosophical differences [251]

With all due respect to Slavs, I much prefer Germanic soul.

I'm a cartesian cold-blooded animal and my culture is a mix of French, Dutch and German cultures.

I was exhausted by her sudden changes of mood

Since January this year, I'm with a new Polish tornado

Are you sure about your preferences ? :))

The emotional swings of slavic girls are extreme

Today I was in hell, then in heaven, then hell again and I am now hoping to finally land or reach the surface of the Earth.

I hate that.
I'm starting to prefer Germanic soul (this statement is a Blasphemy and I will punish myself, forbidding myself to talk to BB)