Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
And the mentality is so much easier to shred than an ethnicity...sure! Townspeople with a traditional german mentality get over night with the polish crown also a polish mentality. Ahja...
Face it Iron, this time you backed yourself into a corner...you are wrong, just admit it and we can move on.
And the mentality is so much easier to shred than an ethnicity...sure! Townspeople with a traditional german mentality get over night with the polish crown also a polish mentality. Ahja...
Face it Iron, this time you backed yourself into a corner...you are wrong, just admit it and we can move on.
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
No...I see crap when I read it. My English, as bad as it might be, is sadly no shield against that.
In what world are you living that you firmly believe Germans, real Germans by language, by culture, by tradition are so far different from Poles that they are ready and willing to throw all their heritage over board the moment the next ruler decides to change borders and official claim, only to cheer now happily for the next foreign ruler.
Do you really think the Danziger started now to speak polish to each other? To eat polish dishes, to dance polish dances, to listen to polish music, to enjoy polish poetry? To cheer for the polish team? What made them to happy Poles now?
Do you really think we are so different?
Dude I think it is a language barrier here. Y
No...I see crap when I read it. My English, as bad as it might be, is sadly no shield against that.
In what world are you living that you firmly believe Germans, real Germans by language, by culture, by tradition are so far different from Poles that they are ready and willing to throw all their heritage over board the moment the next ruler decides to change borders and official claim, only to cheer now happily for the next foreign ruler.
Do you really think the Danziger started now to speak polish to each other? To eat polish dishes, to dance polish dances, to listen to polish music, to enjoy polish poetry? To cheer for the polish team? What made them to happy Poles now?
Do you really think we are so different?
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
And where are the other examples you speak off? After all if such leages had been so common there must have been lots of it, big and successful...
And where are the other examples you speak off? After all if such leages had been so common there must have been lots of it, big and successful...
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
So, all these Germans, which spoke german and latin, were secret Poles...ah ja...
What makes that different to the polish partitions?
The point is that their names mean nothing,
So, all these Germans, which spoke german and latin, were secret Poles...ah ja...
Residents of Gdansk were loyal subject of the Polish Crown they were Polish, End of story. What do you not understand?
What makes that different to the polish partitions?
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
Well, why do yout think the Hanseatic League became so famous, with leaving its traces till today, if everybody and his grandmom did it?
You can see it all over the Baltic, with your own eyes, in the architecture, in nearly every port till up to St Petersburg...they could be another country, so much connects them from this time. No matter that the countries they belong to now are often arch enemies and destroyed each other...these ports connects much more than what divides them.
Thats exactly what makes them so scary to many hard core nationalists...they fear them and what they stand for and what they could become again! They are special Danzig/Gdansk is special!
Yet, it was typical to the time,
Well, why do yout think the Hanseatic League became so famous, with leaving its traces till today, if everybody and his grandmom did it?
You can see it all over the Baltic, with your own eyes, in the architecture, in nearly every port till up to St Petersburg...they could be another country, so much connects them from this time. No matter that the countries they belong to now are often arch enemies and destroyed each other...these ports connects much more than what divides them.
Thats exactly what makes them so scary to many hard core nationalists...they fear them and what they stand for and what they could become again! They are special Danzig/Gdansk is special!
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
Danziger! Iron...famous people from Danzig...not Krakau (born and died).
Born in Bereschany, Ukraine, died in Berlin
Born in Brandenburg, Havel, died in France
Famous Poles from Danzig? Keep 'em coming..
Karol Bunsch - Polish writer.
Danziger! Iron...famous people from Danzig...not Krakau (born and died).
Aleksander Bruckner.
Born in Bereschany, Ukraine, died in Berlin
Józef Unrug
Born in Brandenburg, Havel, died in France
Just from the top if the head. There is more.
Famous Poles from Danzig? Keep 'em coming..
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
Well..why don't you show me the list of famous "polish" Danziger during the last centuries?
After all it is one of the oldest cities in Poland, right?
Stretching the definition of famous.... Maybe in Germany....
Well..why don't you show me the list of famous "polish" Danziger during the last centuries?
After all it is one of the oldest cities in Poland, right?
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
Iron...take your head out of your ass. Denying facts and real knowledge gets you only so far.
The Hanseatic leage needs no myths...its all well documented. For example the "Lübeck Law":
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danzig_law
The Lübeck law (German: Lübisches (Stadt)Recht) was the constitution of a municipal form of government developed at Lübeck, now in Schleswig-Holstein, after it was made a free city in 1226.
The law provides for self-government. It replaced the personal rule of tribal monarchs descending from ancient times or the rule of the regional dukes and kings that had been established by Charlemagne. The latter held all of his aristocratic vassals personally responsible for the defence, health and welfare of the tribesmen settled on their estates, including the towns. The Lübeck Law in theory made the cities to which it applied independent of royalty.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BCbeck_law
Thats nearly 1000 years "german meddling" ffs!
There is a lot of myths about that such leagues.
Iron...take your head out of your ass. Denying facts and real knowledge gets you only so far.
The Hanseatic leage needs no myths...its all well documented. For example the "Lübeck Law":
The models for the Danzig Law were the statute books of the Holy Roman Empire and of other Hanseatic cities, especially Lübeck. The merchant city received Lübeck law in 1226.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danzig_law
The Lübeck law (German: Lübisches (Stadt)Recht) was the constitution of a municipal form of government developed at Lübeck, now in Schleswig-Holstein, after it was made a free city in 1226.
The law provides for self-government. It replaced the personal rule of tribal monarchs descending from ancient times or the rule of the regional dukes and kings that had been established by Charlemagne. The latter held all of his aristocratic vassals personally responsible for the defence, health and welfare of the tribesmen settled on their estates, including the towns. The Lübeck Law in theory made the cities to which it applied independent of royalty.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BCbeck_law
Thats nearly 1000 years "german meddling" ffs!
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
A list of famous Danziger personalities from between the 12. and 17. century (also at about 1550):
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Pers%C3%B6nlichkeiten_der_Stadt_Danzig#12._%E2%80%93_17._Jahrhundert
Okay...the Soviets had been no allies then...
Yet to say that in circa 1550 Gdansk wasn't a polish city is a pure garbage.
A list of famous Danziger personalities from between the 12. and 17. century (also at about 1550):
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Pers%C3%B6nlichkeiten_der_Stadt_Danzig#12._%E2%80%93_17._Jahrhundert
Actually..no....I'm sure you know the history better than I do BB but Gdansk was actually destroyed by the Soviets
Okay...the Soviets had been no allies then...
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
What I said...:)
looking at the past with a modern perspective distorts the truth.
What I said...:)
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
...do you really think the partitions have been made Poles to Germans, Austrians and Russians in anything but name?
Even 1945 Danzig was full of Germans, Kashubians and others, as it has been for centuries...you silly, silly plastic...
...do you really think the partitions have been made Poles to Germans, Austrians and Russians in anything but name?
Even 1945 Danzig was full of Germans, Kashubians and others, as it has been for centuries...you silly, silly plastic...
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
Correct...one of the oldest cities in (actual) Poland...but not one of the oldest polish cities! Small but important difference! :)
You don't seem to know much about it's history at all..
Gdańsk (/ɡəˈdænsk, ɡəˈdɑːnsk/; Polish: [ˈɡdaɲsk]; Kashubian: Gduńsk; German: Danzig) is one of the oldest cities in Poland.
Correct...one of the oldest cities in (actual) Poland...but not one of the oldest polish cities! Small but important difference! :)
You don't seem to know much about it's history at all..
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
Who demands that?
Has anybody ever mentioned something like that?
Seriously now...that fear must stem from somewhere...who said anything like this? Was that talked about? When? Where? WHO???
Who demands that?
Has anybody ever mentioned something like that?
Seriously now...that fear must stem from somewhere...who said anything like this? Was that talked about? When? Where? WHO???
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
Wanna re-fight the war again or concentrate on the topic?
Wanna re-fight the war again or concentrate on the topic?
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
That's all in your mind only...
It's about Danzig a well off, thriving city for centuries under german "meddling" and being destroyed by the allies, not by the Germans.
Not more, not less.
Oh yes, and a mayor who worked hard to bring some of that old wealth and prosperity back, making it thriving again, even if that means good relationships with the neighbouring Germans...for that the nationalists Poles hated him and surely never shed a tear about his murder.
It will thrive or not as a Polish city where respectful German guests are welcome and expansionist Germans.... are not.
That's all in your mind only...
It's about Danzig a well off, thriving city for centuries under german "meddling" and being destroyed by the allies, not by the Germans.
Not more, not less.
Oh yes, and a mayor who worked hard to bring some of that old wealth and prosperity back, making it thriving again, even if that means good relationships with the neighbouring Germans...for that the nationalists Poles hated him and surely never shed a tear about his murder.
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
You gotta be kidding too...do you think you are telling me the news?? REALLY???
No, that is about nationalist Poles preferring to see Danzig poor than getting better with the help of Germans...
For them the mayor was a traitor because he dared to look out for better economical/political relationships with...oh gawd...GERMANS!!!!
Gemany did start WWII. With some Soviet help and collusion.There isn't any doubt about that,
You gotta be kidding too...do you think you are telling me the news?? REALLY???
here isn't any doubt about that, though it's at best marginally relevant to the tragic loss of Mayor Adamowicz.
No, that is about nationalist Poles preferring to see Danzig poor than getting better with the help of Germans...
For them the mayor was a traitor because he dared to look out for better economical/political relationships with...oh gawd...GERMANS!!!!
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
Erm...are you kidding me?
Thats still wrong!
And what about Danzig being a strong, wealthy, influential hotspot as it was connected to Germany and the Hanse? As a direct outcome of german "meddling"?
The Germans started the Second World War when they bombed Westerplatte in Gdansk on 1st September 1939
Erm...are you kidding me?
Gdansk was a rich seaport before the Germans turned it into a pile of rubble in 1939.
Thats still wrong!
And what about Danzig being a strong, wealthy, influential hotspot as it was connected to Germany and the Hanse? As a direct outcome of german "meddling"?
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
....By 1944 a different picture had emerged; Danzig had become a major transit point, not least with swarms of refugees fleeing from the east, as well as a regular target for bombing raids. By March, 1945, with the Red Army fast approaching, the population had reached 1.5 million and the city stood on the precipice of chaos. Suspected deserters were strung up from the lampposts and trees of al. Zwyciestwa (or Hindenburg Allee as it was then known), and the city descended into a Dantean vision.
Historian Antony Beevor writes of the ensuing siege: 'Fighter bombers strafed the towns and port areas. Soviet Shturmoviks treated civilian and military targets alike. A church was as good as a bunker, especially when it seemed as if the objective was to flatten every building which still protruded conspicuously above the ground... Tens of thousands of women and children, terrified of losing their places in the queues to escape, provided unmissable targets.'
inyourpocket.com/gdansk/World-War-II-in-Gdansk_73591f
It as a German town, full of Germans, besieged and destroyed by the allies...how you want to pin its destruction on the Germans is at least curious.
....By 1944 a different picture had emerged; Danzig had become a major transit point, not least with swarms of refugees fleeing from the east, as well as a regular target for bombing raids. By March, 1945, with the Red Army fast approaching, the population had reached 1.5 million and the city stood on the precipice of chaos. Suspected deserters were strung up from the lampposts and trees of al. Zwyciestwa (or Hindenburg Allee as it was then known), and the city descended into a Dantean vision.
Historian Antony Beevor writes of the ensuing siege: 'Fighter bombers strafed the towns and port areas. Soviet Shturmoviks treated civilian and military targets alike. A church was as good as a bunker, especially when it seemed as if the objective was to flatten every building which still protruded conspicuously above the ground... Tens of thousands of women and children, terrified of losing their places in the queues to escape, provided unmissable targets.'
inyourpocket.com/gdansk/World-War-II-in-Gdansk_73591f
It as a German town, full of Germans, besieged and destroyed by the allies...how you want to pin its destruction on the Germans is at least curious.
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
Well...I would that call rather a consequence of french, polish, allied and russian meddling...but hey...to each his own.
Well...I would that call rather a consequence of french, polish, allied and russian meddling...but hey...to each his own.
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2019
History / A History of Gdansk, Poland [130]
Nun ja...Danzig was German before....and the polish stubbornness to let Danzig be German and accept a corridor to the Reich was not furthering the peace either.
The german Hanse made Danzig rich...the whole Baltic actually. It would be good of some nationalist Poles to remember how these lands have profited from being german.
Maybe some "german meddling" wouldn't really go amiss now either...:)
Nun ja...Danzig was German before....and the polish stubbornness to let Danzig be German and accept a corridor to the Reich was not furthering the peace either.
The german Hanse made Danzig rich...the whole Baltic actually. It would be good of some nationalist Poles to remember how these lands have profited from being german.
Maybe some "german meddling" wouldn't really go amiss now either...:)
Bratwurst Boy
20 Jan 2019
Feedback / Suggestions by members to make PF more user friendly and entertaining. [81]
About suggestions to make PF more user friendly....I would like more time to correct my typos...they are sometimes cringeworthy!
About suggestions to make PF more user friendly....I would like more time to correct my typos...they are sometimes cringeworthy!
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2019
Feedback / Suggestions by members to make PF more user friendly and entertaining. [81]
LOL That make me laugh...thanks guys! :)
Yeah. Can you hear me?
Can you hear me now?
Freaking pay your bills in time and you will hear each other.
LOL That make me laugh...thanks guys! :)
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2019
Feedback / Suggestions by members to make PF more user friendly and entertaining. [81]
I swear thats what was put there..."nonsense"! That was what threw me abit...
There was nothing about "nonsense" (there's no such warning).
I swear thats what was put there..."nonsense"! That was what threw me abit...
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2019
Feedback / Suggestions by members to make PF more user friendly and entertaining. [81]
I just got a warning for posting "nonsense"....I don't even know what that means. I understand "off topic", but "nonsense"? How should I know what an admin judges as "nonsense"? You got the "O" warning for posting off-topic messages in the wrong thread/s. There was nothing about "nonsense" (there's no such warning).
I just got a warning for posting "nonsense"....I don't even know what that means. I understand "off topic", but "nonsense"? How should I know what an admin judges as "nonsense"? You got the "O" warning for posting off-topic messages in the wrong thread/s. There was nothing about "nonsense" (there's no such warning).
Bratwurst Boy
16 Jan 2019
Polonia / Pregnant Polish woman stabbed in Germany, loses baby [77]
Nope...serious searching for the word....:)
Kind of....
Thank you, that was it! :)
Unless you're being sarcastic as
Nope...serious searching for the word....:)
Maybe "party workshop" would be enough or "held informal talks"...
Kind of....
In German, the common Anglicism for "Werkstattgespräch" is "Workshop".
Thank you, that was it! :)
Bratwurst Boy
16 Jan 2019
Polonia / Pregnant Polish woman stabbed in Germany, loses baby [77]
My hope is rather with a "reformed" CDU. AKK commanded a party internal "garage talk" (Werkstattgespräch?) about the migrant policies, concerning all decisions since 2015...guess who is NOT coming? Right...Merkel. Her time is running out and what her successor does is out of her hands soon.
tagesschau.de/inland/cdu-fluechtlingspolitik-103.html
My hope is rather with a "reformed" CDU. AKK commanded a party internal "garage talk" (Werkstattgespräch?) about the migrant policies, concerning all decisions since 2015...guess who is NOT coming? Right...Merkel. Her time is running out and what her successor does is out of her hands soon.
tagesschau.de/inland/cdu-fluechtlingspolitik-103.html
Bratwurst Boy
16 Jan 2019
Polonia / Pregnant Polish woman stabbed in Germany, loses baby [77]
Many of them are scared shitless of the next elections for one....
Many of them are scared shitless of the next elections for one....
Bratwurst Boy
16 Jan 2019
Polonia / Pregnant Polish woman stabbed in Germany, loses baby [77]
Well...I have no better idea...to close the borders for all of them is the other alternative on the table.
I don't want to believe our gov really has resigned and just shrugs collectively their shoulders...that is no god given natural catastrophe and we shouldn't just sit and suffer and hope for better days!
You want to segrate hundreds of young people with nothing to do? That sounds a recipee for disaster.
Well...I have no better idea...to close the borders for all of them is the other alternative on the table.
I don't want to believe our gov really has resigned and just shrugs collectively their shoulders...that is no god given natural catastrophe and we shouldn't just sit and suffer and hope for better days!