Ironside
16 Jun 2013
Ironside
15 Jun 2013
USA, Canada / Prayer, relgious symbols OK in public in Québec! Poland watches. [99]
Stalin would be proud of you.
More of a new-speak rubbish. Some people are eating stop it is no fair on them.
He puts Jesus to shame!
Stalin would be proud of you.
Your turn? More of the TKM talk?
More of a new-speak rubbish. Some people are eating stop it is no fair on them.
Ironside
15 Jun 2013
News / PO-PiS again neck and neck [248]
I can tell you that you are-talking rubbish. Admit that Olencnik is unprofessional journalist who has not right to take sides in political campaigns and pretending to be neutral at the same time.
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What ted Turner qualifications? Who the **** care? He is the owner - so is Rydzuk.
Kaczynski - what other politician has qualification to be one? Are even there special qualification to be one - if you are loosing argument you are turning sloppy - its annoying. Try to stay on a level.
As for his father - stop repeating rubbish if you have no prove.
Tell us Ironside,
I can tell you that you are-talking rubbish. Admit that Olencnik is unprofessional journalist who has not right to take sides in political campaigns and pretending to be neutral at the same time.
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What ted Turner qualifications? Who the **** care? He is the owner - so is Rydzuk.
Kaczynski - what other politician has qualification to be one? Are even there special qualification to be one - if you are loosing argument you are turning sloppy - its annoying. Try to stay on a level.
As for his father - stop repeating rubbish if you have no prove.
Ironside
15 Jun 2013
USA, Canada / Prayer, relgious symbols OK in public in Québec! Poland watches. [99]
Well you know a lot about communism fior somebody who is 28 and came form Scotland, party membership?
I'm ME! You are asking stupid question. Christianity says that and all that stands behind that, and it is my turn to uphold the standard..
.Go and provide prove for your claims first.
If you don't understand ta ta!talk to my hand you are boring.
Who are you to decide what's good for people?
Well you know a lot about communism fior somebody who is 28 and came form Scotland, party membership?
I'm ME! You are asking stupid question. Christianity says that and all that stands behind that, and it is my turn to uphold the standard..
He's the messiah of the nations :)
.Go and provide prove for your claims first.
If you don't understand ta ta!talk to my hand you are boring.
Ironside
15 Jun 2013
News / PO-PiS again neck and neck [248]
Is she working for TVN now? Well she can be biased as much as their are. I though you are talking about times she worked for TVP1.
Well attempts at politicizing TVP shouldn't not be used as an excuse for journalist to involve heavily into political campaign and in taking sides. That is unprofessional and unethical but Olejnik hardly do not know better.
She jumped on TVP and Radio during the martial state. Her education -zoo-technicians. Her father UB colonel.( political police)
o why have they got the right to be biased, but not TVN?
Is she working for TVN now? Well she can be biased as much as their are. I though you are talking about times she worked for TVP1.
Oh please. We all know that TVP has been heavily political for years, or have you forgotten already about how it was being used as a mouthpiece for the Government in 2007?
Well attempts at politicizing TVP shouldn't not be used as an excuse for journalist to involve heavily into political campaign and in taking sides. That is unprofessional and unethical but Olejnik hardly do not know better.
What were those circumstances?
She jumped on TVP and Radio during the martial state. Her education -zoo-technicians. Her father UB colonel.( political police)
Ironside
15 Jun 2013
USA, Canada / Prayer, relgious symbols OK in public in Québec! Poland watches. [99]
Because it is not good for people. Also because its set against Christianity.
Because it is not good for people. Also because its set against Christianity.
Ironside
15 Jun 2013
USA, Canada / Prayer, relgious symbols OK in public in Québec! Poland watches. [99]
Any other religion which not have more that 5% of the population in Poland should just display their symbols in their place of worship excluding of course satanism which should be prosecuted by the state.
Any other religion which not have more that 5% of the population in Poland should just display their symbols in their place of worship excluding of course satanism which should be prosecuted by the state.
Ironside
15 Jun 2013
News / PO-PiS again neck and neck [248]
TV Trwam wasn't heavily biased towards PiS. Any party with PiS program could have easily gain their support. That is their right.
The difference is that Olejnk worked in the Polish BBC and cannot take sides so blatantly.
Especially since she got her job in murky circumstances.
Really? Not while being employed by the Polish TV.
Anyway her (not only her) professionalism in interviewing politicians is in appallingly bad state. What you can say about western TV at least they are proffe3sionlas
So given that TV Trwam was incredibly, heavily biased towards PiS, do you agree that they have no business to do so?
TV Trwam wasn't heavily biased towards PiS. Any party with PiS program could have easily gain their support. That is their right.
The difference is that Olejnk worked in the Polish BBC and cannot take sides so blatantly.
Especially since she got her job in murky circumstances.
Olejnik had every right to air her views.
Really? Not while being employed by the Polish TV.
Anyway her (not only her) professionalism in interviewing politicians is in appallingly bad state. What you can say about western TV at least they are proffe3sionlas
Ironside
15 Jun 2013
USA, Canada / Prayer, relgious symbols OK in public in Québec! Poland watches. [99]
Well, I see no problem in publicly displaying religious Christan symbols and a public prayer.
I think that should be OK in Poland.
Well, I see no problem in publicly displaying religious Christan symbols and a public prayer.
I think that should be OK in Poland.
Ironside
15 Jun 2013
News / PO-PiS again neck and neck [248]
Rightly so, Public TV presenter have no business take sides on TV in an election especially one with Olejnik background.
And no doubt he would have had PiS been re-elected then
Rightly so, Public TV presenter have no business take sides on TV in an election especially one with Olejnik background.
Ironside
15 Jun 2013
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]
What?
I want you to provide few of may posts consisting the If somebody wants to know knows.
Because that what you claimed.
still waiting.
There you go:
What?
I want you to provide few of may posts consisting the If somebody wants to know knows.
Because that what you claimed.
still waiting.
Ironside
14 Jun 2013
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]
Provide quote of mine staying that other than in this case or admit that you are lying.
Congratulation but you evolved did you? You become a new breed, a modern Pole a better model - right?
Helluva! You ARE good! You fooled them all. I wouldn't be happy to entrust you with a real weapon.
As it happens I did.
Exactly the same argument you are using to support any statements.
Provide quote of mine staying that other than in this case or admit that you are lying.
Born to Polish parents.
Congratulation but you evolved did you? You become a new breed, a modern Pole a better model - right?
As it happens ironside, I'm a former army officer,
Helluva! You ARE good! You fooled them all. I wouldn't be happy to entrust you with a real weapon.
What about you? Did you do your military service in Poland before 'leaving'?
As it happens I did.
Ironside
14 Jun 2013
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]
Whats that?
No, they are not, they just hear a lot of crap about that. What is your point? You don't know that firms working on Polish highways have been screwed by middlemen, hand picked by the government and paid by the government?
? A natural born one
Whats that?
The church is full of pedophiles. It's public knowledge. If somebody wants to know knows.
No, they are not, they just hear a lot of crap about that. What is your point? You don't know that firms working on Polish highways have been screwed by middlemen, hand picked by the government and paid by the government?
Ironside
14 Jun 2013
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]
Write a book about that.
If somebody wants to know knows.
Thats funny, who would trust him with a real working gun? Would you?
So you are a new Pole? A modern model right? Just like those new Soviet made models? Good luck with that.
I was quoting the Dear Leader.
Write a book about that.
Public knowledge?
If somebody wants to know knows.
I suspect that Harry would pick up a gun to defend Poland far faster than you would.
Thats funny, who would trust him with a real working gun? Would you?
an old-timer Pole
So you are a new Pole? A modern model right? Just like those new Soviet made models? Good luck with that.
Ironside
13 Jun 2013
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That is a public knowledge and after all I wouldn't want to talk with Tusk stooge.
Care to provide a quote of mine stating that or your admittance that you are lying and apology would be in order?
sure but you are foreigner whit illicit intentions and you would support anything to put down Poland.
Why don't you report them to the CBA if there's corruption?
That is a public knowledge and after all I wouldn't want to talk with Tusk stooge.
Remember - if you're not with PiS, then you must be ZOMO.
Care to provide a quote of mine stating that or your admittance that you are lying and apology would be in order?
I'd certainly vote PO if my choices were either PO or PiS. In fact the only time I have voted PO that was why I voted PO.
sure but you are foreigner whit illicit intentions and you would support anything to put down Poland.
Ironside
13 Jun 2013
News / Poland's Nationalists hold congress [132]
The Voice of reason and the truth?
Anyway they can say whatever they like it doesn't make it so.
the rights of being recognized as national minority for starters. The right taken away in 1940 by the Nazis.
stefczyk.info/publicystyka/opinie/hambura-niemcy-widza-asymetrie-w-naszych-relacjach,6130447469
lies and propaganda? Gee delph are you commie?
spiegel.de/international/germany/new-book-suggests-angela-merkel-was-closer-to-communism-than-thought-a-899768.html
Who are you to deny people the right to say what they are?
The Voice of reason and the truth?
Anyway they can say whatever they like it doesn't make it so.
What rights?
the rights of being recognized as national minority for starters. The right taken away in 1940 by the Nazis.
Germans see the asymmetry in our relations.
Jaroslaw Kaczynski called recently to introduce a symmetry in the living conditions of Poles in Germany and Germans in Poland. Is this balance needed?
Symmetry is obviously needed. It showed even talks about the 20th anniversary of the Treaty of good neighborliness and friendly cooperation between Polish and Germany. In the context of this event Polish and German round table was organized. And German politicians themselves, like Cornelia Pieper, Minister of State in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Germany and the commissioner. Polish-German Federal Government talks about asymmetry prevailing in our relations. Germans know that there is asymmetry. It amazes however the behavior of many Polish politicians who believe that Poland and Poles should stay out of sight.
Jaroslaw Kaczynski called recently to introduce a symmetry in the living conditions of Poles in Germany and Germans in Poland. Is this balance needed?
Symmetry is obviously needed. It showed even talks about the 20th anniversary of the Treaty of good neighborliness and friendly cooperation between Polish and Germany. In the context of this event Polish and German round table was organized. And German politicians themselves, like Cornelia Pieper, Minister of State in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Germany and the commissioner. Polish-German Federal Government talks about asymmetry prevailing in our relations. Germans know that there is asymmetry. It amazes however the behavior of many Polish politicians who believe that Poland and Poles should stay out of sight.
stefczyk.info/publicystyka/opinie/hambura-niemcy-widza-asymetrie-w-naszych-relacjach,6130447469
As for Merkel being a "Marxist Commie" - dear oh dear, will you stop at nothing with your lies and propaganda?
lies and propaganda? Gee delph are you commie?
spiegel.de/international/germany/new-book-suggests-angela-merkel-was-closer-to-communism-than-thought-a-899768.html
Ironside
13 Jun 2013
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]
no comment :)
Amd frankly speaking I can't really see better options in curent political situation
That's evident mistake, that's for sure.
Why all those assumptions and accusatory tone?
no comment :)
Ironside
13 Jun 2013
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]
You are! You are still supporting current government regardless of what they done.
There is no if about that. Yes they government paid but those to whom they paid mysteriously disappeared leaving those who actually done all the work in poverty.
Are you telling me that government handed money to some people from the street they knew nothing about? Not even their names?
should those people go to the same court that let go Sawicka without punishment even that she was guilty like hell?
So, how do you propose those people would feed families in meantime ie for ten years. After all they are pursued by they workers for money so work for them is not an option.
Well you don't care, that is their business and the right is in middle and all that BS which hides fact that you are used to corruption.
You have been voting for PO have you not? So it is your fault too, you know that you are responsible for that, you personally as you are still supporting such government.
I'm in any way used to corruption.
You are! You are still supporting current government regardless of what they done.
If the Polish state didn't pay their bill the victims can go to court and demand Skarb Państwa to pay.
There is no if about that. Yes they government paid but those to whom they paid mysteriously disappeared leaving those who actually done all the work in poverty.
Are you telling me that government handed money to some people from the street they knew nothing about? Not even their names?
should those people go to the same court that let go Sawicka without punishment even that she was guilty like hell?
I rather doubt that since cases in court can take a rather long time.
So, how do you propose those people would feed families in meantime ie for ten years. After all they are pursued by they workers for money so work for them is not an option.
Well you don't care, that is their business and the right is in middle and all that BS which hides fact that you are used to corruption.
You have been voting for PO have you not? So it is your fault too, you know that you are responsible for that, you personally as you are still supporting such government.
Ironside
13 Jun 2013
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I'm not saying that you took part in anything and I haven't implied that. What I had in mind was that you are immune on some kinds of corruption in everyday life and more so in governmental policy.
You are not alone.Tusk government robed those people and his support didn't drop considerably, nobody protested - nothing happened. People just take for granted that politicians are corrupted - so what - its is the case everywhere.
Yes everywhere in Africa maybe.
So what other institution done about that?
I know that but whose job it is? Tusk nominee? Who?
That would be almost a year - have that case been settled?
Just lol. I never took or gave a bribe. I'm more used to ppl simply steeling than corruption
I'm not saying that you took part in anything and I haven't implied that. What I had in mind was that you are immune on some kinds of corruption in everyday life and more so in governmental policy.
You are not alone.Tusk government robed those people and his support didn't drop considerably, nobody protested - nothing happened. People just take for granted that politicians are corrupted - so what - its is the case everywhere.
Yes everywhere in Africa maybe.
True, for other cases we have different institutions.
So what other institution done about that?
That's not their job. They are there to make sure are laws are compatible with constitution and in that respect there were useful.
I know that but whose job it is? Tusk nominee? Who?
That would be almost a year - have that case been settled?
Ironside
13 Jun 2013
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]
I haven't heard situation when government's contractors haven't been paid, and middle man to whom government handed the money just disappeared No Lenka as much as you are use to corruption I haven;t witnessed anything like that.
So what TK said in the case? I don't know - what I'm guessing they would not take on such a case as it has nothing to do with Constitution.
Sure, did they prevented people from being robbed by the government? Are they paying their bills? I'm curios - tell me.
Iron- in every country ppl and gov cheat, steal and all that.
I haven't heard situation when government's contractors haven't been paid, and middle man to whom government handed the money just disappeared No Lenka as much as you are use to corruption I haven;t witnessed anything like that.
he only thing we can do is to try and prevent it- hence TK.
So what TK said in the case? I don't know - what I'm guessing they would not take on such a case as it has nothing to do with Constitution.
And they proved to be useful in the past.
Sure, did they prevented people from being robbed by the government? Are they paying their bills? I'm curios - tell me.
Ironside
13 Jun 2013
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Lenka, please!
You can rob honest people in the daylight,(as they did) your government can do it without consequences why are you telling fairy stories about Constitutions and TK?
We have TK to make sure constitution isn't violated.
Lenka, please!
You can rob honest people in the daylight,(as they did) your government can do it without consequences why are you telling fairy stories about Constitutions and TK?
Ironside
13 Jun 2013
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]
good for you, what else can you tell? Can you see the wall before you crash into it? brilliant!
No really he ****** a few people and then kicked them out. It fairly common occurrence in PO echelons by now.
If they get majority - what is the problem?
I don't understand that confusion with Constitution, hey that Poland. That really do not matter right? The state ie government con do anything as long as got majority and support of the media like PO. They are doing all they want right now and people are just being silly if they think that some law is protecting them.
Not from my own perspective, but looking at people like you, yeah. I can tell.
good for you, what else can you tell? Can you see the wall before you crash into it? brilliant!
A Tuskite that doesn't like or support Tusk. That must be a new thing.
No really he ****** a few people and then kicked them out. It fairly common occurrence in PO echelons by now.
However that wasn't the case and PiS never got the 2/3 support in Sejm it needed to change it.
If they get majority - what is the problem?
I don't understand that confusion with Constitution, hey that Poland. That really do not matter right? The state ie government con do anything as long as got majority and support of the media like PO. They are doing all they want right now and people are just being silly if they think that some law is protecting them.
Ironside
13 Jun 2013
News / Poland's Nationalists hold congress [132]
seems like you are not up to scratch Dodie
There is nothing wrong with separatism in general but attempts to build a new nation in present situation its somebody's idea to get a dough.
Merkel a Marxist Commie. That's golden :)
seems like you are not up to scratch Dodie
Separatism is dangerous.
There is nothing wrong with separatism in general but attempts to build a new nation in present situation its somebody's idea to get a dough.
Ironside
13 Jun 2013
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you know a thing or two about that right?
You are a true Tuskitie then, do you lick his buts every-so often?
No problem referendum could be held for a new Constitution.
Told you, crypto-homosexuality in its finest :)
you know a thing or two about that right?
Buzek £obuzek and his butt buddy "w krzaki z takim". Thanks, but no thanks.
You are a true Tuskitie then, do you lick his buts every-so often?
The constutution was established if far more democratic way than what they wanted to do- we had a referendum so it wasn't pushed
No problem referendum could be held for a new Constitution.
Ironside
13 Jun 2013
News / Poland's Nationalists hold congress [132]
Delph you are talking bollocks. Polish minority in Germany had her rights taken away by Hitler and the currrent German government lead by a Marxist Commie upheld that ruling.
Does it matters?
One can feel closer to Germany or Poland or can be equally attached to both. However there isn't Silesia nationality and never were. It is a plot to get the special treatment - privileges in the Polish state. After recognized minorities came monies.
Seems to me that many people already did forget.
Offended? Where their action put Konfantry and all these Silesian who fought to belong be part of Poland.
I would support self-government anywhere if people really want that. However for that Constitution would have to be changed.
I'm not going to support some idiots who want to start a new nation WTF?
Some bollocks about how it's not fair that national minorities in Poland get that, while economic minorities in Germany don't.
Delph you are talking bollocks. Polish minority in Germany had her rights taken away by Hitler and the currrent German government lead by a Marxist Commie upheld that ruling.
Does your family declare Silesian nationality and support RAŚ ?
Does it matters?
But we still felt slighted and offended by that statement. And as I said- many ppl won't forget him this.
One can feel closer to Germany or Poland or can be equally attached to both. However there isn't Silesia nationality and never were. It is a plot to get the special treatment - privileges in the Polish state. After recognized minorities came monies.
Seems to me that many people already did forget.
Offended? Where their action put Konfantry and all these Silesian who fought to belong be part of Poland.
I would support self-government anywhere if people really want that. However for that Constitution would have to be changed.
I'm not going to support some idiots who want to start a new nation WTF?
Ironside
13 Jun 2013
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]
everyone taking part in-that has been hand picked but Soviet Poles but not everyone made deal or privet arrangements with them.
That for you to check. If you tell me I will debate with you if not - not.For your attitude here and for your words you need to earn the right to debate with me.
Do you watch TV?I would like to point your attention to programs about nature. Specifically to kind of frog that lives in the rain fores. To fool its opponents inflates itself to double or triple of its original size to scare off its opponents. In reality it is nothing but a hot air.
Ho ho ho. Lech Kaczynski was part of the Round Table talks - are we finally seeing an admission that he was handpicked?
everyone taking part in-that has been hand picked but Soviet Poles but not everyone made deal or privet arrangements with them.
If Walesa didn't, then who did?
That for you to check. If you tell me I will debate with you if not - not.For your attitude here and for your words you need to earn the right to debate with me.
Still, Ironside, while you fight for the IV RP from afar, we'll carry on making the real Polish State a better place to live.
Do you watch TV?I would like to point your attention to programs about nature. Specifically to kind of frog that lives in the rain fores. To fool its opponents inflates itself to double or triple of its original size to scare off its opponents. In reality it is nothing but a hot air.
Ironside
13 Jun 2013
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]
Not only that. PiS exists because people are ignorant and let other rule over them instead of thanking interest in politics and organize themselves, then PiS wouldn't be needed.
What makes you thing that such thing is taken slightly? Some people who are talking about that have been in politics before you were born.That is only your assumption that somebody want to take rush, or not thought through actions.
It is not about constitution, bad as it is. That is about changing system ie people who showed their hand overthrowing Olszewski government.
No he is saying that whatever deals have been made. Have been made in secret and for that they had no authorization, nor mandate. In fact all so called Round Table have been a deal between Soviets Poles and selected by them people form opposition. Walensa didn't have the right to represent Solidarity.
There were no honor, and there no deal need to honored as they have been made by usurpers and traitors about the nation.
That deal could be have been treated as limited agreement till election not as promise that all Soviet Poles will hold privileged position for ever.
But if I'm not mistaken you do sugest that PiS and IV RP are not so popular BECAUSE ppl are ignorant.
Not only that. PiS exists because people are ignorant and let other rule over them instead of thanking interest in politics and organize themselves, then PiS wouldn't be needed.
I'm rather about the fact that changing constitution and "overthrowing" the III RP shouldn't be taken slightly.
What makes you thing that such thing is taken slightly? Some people who are talking about that have been in politics before you were born.That is only your assumption that somebody want to take rush, or not thought through actions.
Isn't it better to just change what is wrong than blowing things up?
It is not about constitution, bad as it is. That is about changing system ie people who showed their hand overthrowing Olszewski government.
The hell with the things that we all agreed to we will break the deal? Where is honour in that? Would you make buisness with someone with that approach?
No he is saying that whatever deals have been made. Have been made in secret and for that they had no authorization, nor mandate. In fact all so called Round Table have been a deal between Soviets Poles and selected by them people form opposition. Walensa didn't have the right to represent Solidarity.
There were no honor, and there no deal need to honored as they have been made by usurpers and traitors about the nation.
That deal could be have been treated as limited agreement till election not as promise that all Soviet Poles will hold privileged position for ever.
Ironside
12 Jun 2013
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]
well - your source - election 2011 49% of all voters voted
OK so about 50% of voters do not vote. Rubbish not! Exaggeration yes but 10% is not that much.
well - your source - election 2011 49% of all voters voted
OK so about 50% of voters do not vote. Rubbish not! Exaggeration yes but 10% is not that much.
Ironside
12 Jun 2013
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]
Not really jon. But i heard about that all the same.
That proves my point here - people, voter are easily scared and can be induced to vote by creating atmosphere of fear.
data please
Do you remember that day, Ironside? Do you?
Not really jon. But i heard about that all the same.
That proves my point here - people, voter are easily scared and can be induced to vote by creating atmosphere of fear.
Rubbish!
data please
Ironside
12 Jun 2013
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]
I'm not debating Lenka. I'm just saying as it is. 60to 70 % of voters in Poland do not vote.2
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GO AHEAD. Call them names. Sorry call me names as well I voted for them once.
Am I calling anybody voters names? No, I'm talking about political awareness among majority of those who vote. They are easily scared. They listen to TV. If a nice dude would tell them that such and such could end badly, they are worried and if there three or four such talking heads saying the same - they are shything in their underwear.
Like with the idea to privatize, give all flats to those who were living in them. You do remember that many flats were owned by the state and had been a sort of lend to people who were living in them. I don't think there is a name for that in English.
That was connect to the plan to return all property confiscated by Soviets to the rightful owners. The point is that I think (not sure) the idea of giving flat to people were rejected in referendum. Why? Those who were against that launched propaganda telling everywhere they could same rubbish, something that they will gave to pay extras for those flats or something else I don't remember, creating atmosphere of suspicion - that scared people off - they are easily scared. Cause they do not know better and a real elite do not exist.
There no independent authorities who could tell people if this or that idea is sound or not.
Lenka if someone is interested in this he/she can find plenty of articles in newspapers or in the Internet about that. There are historical books about that. There is even book written by sociologist professor - Staniszkis.
What you are saying is - there have been nothing on TV about that. Yes there were no much about that for a reason.
If you don't want to trust somebody you need to secure information and sources on your own.
That's not really an argument Iron.
I'm not debating Lenka. I'm just saying as it is. 60to 70 % of voters in Poland do not vote.2
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I could easily call PiS voters names but what kind of argument is it?
GO AHEAD. Call them names. Sorry call me names as well I voted for them once.
Am I calling anybody voters names? No, I'm talking about political awareness among majority of those who vote. They are easily scared. They listen to TV. If a nice dude would tell them that such and such could end badly, they are worried and if there three or four such talking heads saying the same - they are shything in their underwear.
Like with the idea to privatize, give all flats to those who were living in them. You do remember that many flats were owned by the state and had been a sort of lend to people who were living in them. I don't think there is a name for that in English.
That was connect to the plan to return all property confiscated by Soviets to the rightful owners. The point is that I think (not sure) the idea of giving flat to people were rejected in referendum. Why? Those who were against that launched propaganda telling everywhere they could same rubbish, something that they will gave to pay extras for those flats or something else I don't remember, creating atmosphere of suspicion - that scared people off - they are easily scared. Cause they do not know better and a real elite do not exist.
There no independent authorities who could tell people if this or that idea is sound or not.
My first problem is with the fact that this idea denies all that happened in the last 23 years. No real debate about what was good and what was wrong- that's not too smart in my opinion
Lenka if someone is interested in this he/she can find plenty of articles in newspapers or in the Internet about that. There are historical books about that. There is even book written by sociologist professor - Staniszkis.
What you are saying is - there have been nothing on TV about that. Yes there were no much about that for a reason.
If you don't want to trust somebody you need to secure information and sources on your own.