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And that's why the aristocratic Church had so many privileges.
no bishops had privileges because they were aristocrats. They were nominated by the King/state.
Pope had no much to say - and that was wrong.
Yeah, when you accomplish what he did back then,
What he accomplished? became famous story teller?
and many great thinkers admire them.
I'm not.
Probably the Church was more equal than peasants ;)
You don;t understand - equal do not mean the same and doesn't mean communism.
No, they were not. The country was almost bankrupt after spending a lot of money on the American War of Independence. Inequalities among the population were getting unbearable. And probably also poor government policies. There were a lot of tensions in the country.
For complex reasons as you said. Nobody were starving except for some low beggars in the City. People have worse in many modern countries today. it was not a real crisis but one that had been used to gain more power by certain circles and that how it started.
It's a revolution, dude.
Exactly - destruction. secularist are good at destroying things.
The 'fantasy' has its charms tho: equality for EVERYONE, end of unfair privilegies,
when unfair privileges ended and who says what fair or not?
democracy,
Democracy? Really? When you have seen rule of majority in action? Long time ago.
and later universal suffrage
Meaning women to work, more cheap labor on the market, meaning the rich are getting richer exploiting women as well - new slaves.
free and mandatory school, etc.
The church had schools for free for those willing and with promise for ages. Mandatory is modern invention to educate/brainwash plebs into being a good soldier for a government in a new total war i- conscripts.
But I understand your point. It's much easier for the Church to keep 'control' of people when they live in misery, sickness, and only have religion. Just have a look at the world, which are the most religious countries.
Where is your control? In the Marxist thesis?the guy was a loon. Religion do not control its guide and mitigate and keep the animal in check to some extend. Ruling, keeping in control those are just words in the ideological war on propaganda - not more true than claim that governments are now conspiring against people.
As for sicknesses and suffering? Christan Europe made a jump in its well-being and became land of prosperity and progress after Christianity took firm hold in the peninsula of China as some Chinese would like to see the Europe.
French Revolution was not a state, it was a major historical event.
Yeah like Holocaust or WWI.
I'm sorry but the FR build the state, one unstable and bloody whose different stages have been convulsing for two decades.
And if you live the life you live today, it's probably partly thanks to that event. If it wasn't for that (partly as I said at least), you'd probably be dead of dysentery already, and your 12 illiterate kids would be starving.
Come on? Fantasy and what if scenarios? nah ...I will pass
Less freedom? What the hell are you talking about? In religious states, people are often persecuted if they don't agree with the governing bodies.
Really? In Christan countries? where?
How disagree? the are acting against the law?
Are you telling me that if some people would act against the law today in France they wouldn't be prosecuted?
In case you didn't know, you can practice any religion you wish in most 'secular states'. Yes, there are still churches in France. And I'm pretty sure our secular state still gives funds to the Church, and other religious organisations.
How generous of them.
