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Ironside   
4 Dec 2013
History / Slavic vs Germanic thinking.... and the philosophical differences [251]

If not, why then the dual naming of a majority of Polish towns such as Toruń/Thorn, Bytom/Beuthen, Jasna Góra/Hellberg etc.. other than owing to GERMAN colonization during the earlier era of the Teutonic Knights??

Would you be so kind and point out Thorn on this map?:

1470

Poles honestly claim the writer Guenter Grass as a Pole,

Never met a Pole who would claim that Grass as being Polish.

Yet what you're describing is something quite different from historical primogeniture.

One would need to have a clue about history to lecture others but I'm sure such a detail will not stop you.
Ironside   
4 Dec 2013
History / Slavic vs Germanic thinking.... and the philosophical differences [251]

32 pages of a stupid thread called "GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)!!! OUTRAGE!" tell a different story.

What are you talking about? Kopernikus belongs to Polish history and tradition and claim the he was German is simply ridiculous. That is my point. What Germans are claiming I don't care, they have tradition of claiming many things that were not true. I see them on par with Ukrainians who are claiming a lot of things.

Chopin yes, seems to me he was a Pole but if you would prove to me otherwise I would be fine with that. Nevertheless his music is Polish, yes universal but at the same time deeply Polish.
Ironside   
4 Dec 2013
History / Slavic vs Germanic thinking.... and the philosophical differences [251]

My whole point is that nobody except for a handful of people really care whether Chopin was French or Polish, or whether Copernicus was Polish or German.

seems that those people are congregating on PF. when comes to Koperink I don't even understand why there are any doubt the case is clear.

Sure, I understand why Chopin is more controversial but still. There are plenty of expert, who know the subject. i don't really care as long as somebody doesn't talk rubbish.
Ironside   
4 Dec 2013
History / Slavic vs Germanic thinking.... and the philosophical differences [251]

Most folks would agree that both Poland and Germany can "claim" him,

Could you claim the moon? Sure you could. Doesn't it make a ounce of sense? It doesn't.

but we all know of course that people of a certain political affiliation don't like that idea...

To be factual it was the German Nazis who were claiming or ousting certain people even historical figures. More often then not that was based on blood. One could be ten times removed Maritain and still because they could find an ounce of German or what they though was German blood they claimed him.

So as far as history goes we cannot establish whether or not koperinki was an ethnic German or whatever passed for that at the time the one thing is certain that he was a loyal subject of the Polish Kingdom which he proved on the battlefield and has been educated together with elite of that Kingdom in Cracow University.

I wonder why we even debate the obvious? Let talk about Australia the land many dedicated German supporters of Hitler emigrated after the war.
About Chopin let make it simple for you. If he wouldn't consider himself a Pole he would stay in the Russian Empire rather than travel to Paris.
Ironside   
4 Dec 2013
History / Slavic vs Germanic thinking.... and the philosophical differences [251]

When Kopernikuś/Kopernigk was born, the city of Thorn (Toruń) was part of the territory still belonging to the German Empire:-)

Not factual. The German Empire were created in 1872. Anyway that is not issue as that subject has been long decided by the people knowledgeable in the field that Kopernik has been willing and loyal subject of the Polish Kingdom. The only issues that are being debatable here is his "blood" but that different.
Ironside   
4 Dec 2013
Travel / Is Poland safe for non white women to visit? [7]

The same used to be true in Poland but over the last couple of years there have been racist attacks (physical attacks) on women here.

Poland is becoming more European.
Ironside   
4 Dec 2013
History / Life in Poland before the fall of communism [30]

so long as they kept being a good citizen.

a good slave you mean.

What's happening right now in the US in terms of Police violence against its citizens and overall paranoia and spying far surpasses anything that we had in Poland during the later states of communism.

Given the fact that everything was under Soviet heel and people were compliant they didn't have to use all those measures. What you see in the USA is a process of taking freedoms away from people. So i disagree in Poland it has been worse. The USA still got a fighting chance not to go under.

By the age of 15 I traveled all around Poland, enjoyed complete freedom when it came to being able to express myself in ANY way.

Would you be able to publicly say that the government are traitorous Soviet bastards and people shouldn't listen to them, without consequences?

There was no private property, so they had the entire country for themselves.

There were private property, namely farms and land allotments and you couldn't camp everywhere,not in the national parks and like.

School was tough... I remember leaving Poland for the US and realizing that I went from an slightly below average student, to someone who even without the grasp on the language was getting almost all straight As.

Yes, schools had been demanding. Even with the amount of lies and ideological BS, but languages and Science has been really on decent level. Given the fact that only 18% of population has been enjoining higher or uni education there were kind of selection. Of course party people were been able to go on special courses and be given diplomas on an easily track.

Not to mention Fairly good vocational schools.

. Food stamps, food rations, clothing stamps, empty stores.

When? After Solidarity started not before, I think that was done on purpose to subdue population. Well after war it was the same but then most countries in Europe had that system after WWII.

There was an overall sense of community, all neighbors knew each other and helped each other.

Or hated each other guts.

If you weren't involved in anything related to politics you were safe,

if you were subdued slave.

we didn't have Lego's, computers, Transformers or what not,

Do you feel deprived? I don't, that it is commercial shyte anyway and computers without internet are useless anyway. I recall locals with a video games you paid for to play.

after the war it was more like that, your relations with people involved with the right wing or more freedom/nationalistic fighters

Or anybody who has been somebody or patriotic.

If you were a kid it was actually pretty cool.

Sure, you could get shot at, gassed. or beaten up with a rubber baton, they must have stuff end of that baton with something. Unless you mean kid like in pram or a little older.

Some of those were spent in mix camps with kids from other Eastern block countries

Cool you could mix up with Merkel. I recall West-German bunch - some lefties lead by a dude with a bushy Marxist beard, I'm sorry I do not recall his name, bunch of nasty fekkers they were, East-German kids were for the most part OK. They were not allowed to display crosses and such, they were shared shytliess if they noticed something like that on Polish kids.

When you came to think of it it wasn't that much different that PC.
Ironside   
4 Dec 2013
Life / Lack of human rights in Poland? [132]

You don't arrest let alone charge people as a preemptive measure. It goes against all concepts of justice.

Bring the charge against them to the court.

Yes you can. You have no idea what you are talking about.

hear hear!

I mean what I wrote. You refuse to look at evidence when it doesn't suit your argument.

Look who is talking. Why don't you stab yourself three times in your guts with a kitchen knife but no cheating and then came back here and tell us all about laughing it off.

You don't have any basic conception of 'justice', do you. What is relevant to any case is what the person or persons concerned did, and not the actions of others some years previously.

hahahha!
Ironside   
3 Dec 2013
Life / Lack of human rights in Poland? [132]

Likewise for Fascists, as witnessed on this forum by certain people who accuse anything that doesn't agree with them as "commie".

Hardly. Try harder.

Defending your ONR scummie friends again, are you?

Would you like to say it to their face? Pm your name and address chef and I will help you to fulfill your dream.
Ironside   
3 Dec 2013
Life / Lack of human rights in Poland? [132]

For Commies everything that do not agrees with them is fascism or Nazism, they try to fool unsuspected people you see. Who remember that Mussolini started as a Communist.
Ironside   
3 Dec 2013
Life / Lack of human rights in Poland? [132]

ndependence day march: burning rainbows, attack on squat, attack on Russian embassy = 72 arrests

Have you ever been in Warsaw? Do you know the independence march route? Are you defending criminals who are occupying squat?> What constitute an attack for you? I ask those qestion because I refuse any serious general debate with a dude who claims that he if would be stabbed in his guts he would just laugh it off.

Lets talk specific for a change.
Ironside   
3 Dec 2013
Life / Lack of human rights in Poland? [132]

I suspect that the police find it easier to arrest and detain Italian football fans than far right independence day marchers.

Are you out of your mind? Are you seriously calling for the policy to arrest people whose only crime is taking part in a march to celebrate the Independence of Poland? I think you should be getting out more and I would like to challenge your claim that you can speak Polish.

Take the incident in Gdynia where the police arrested and tried to blame Mexicans for their being subject to what amounted to a racial assault.

Why? Because they were Mexican involved? Two groups of drunks clashed and if the behavior of Mexican can be changed by their performance in front of the police and camera than your claim is simply laughable.

Lazio fans: upset rubbish bin =153 arrests.

on what 600 fans?

Independence day march: burning rainbows, attack on squat, attack on Russian embassy = 72 arrests

on what 100 000 people? I won't comment more on you or I will be banned.
Ironside   
2 Dec 2013
Life / Lack of human rights in Poland? [132]

Two, possibly three of the knifes shown are the kind that hooligans might arm themselves with, the rest you might find in any kitchen, anywhere.

OK, I give up!
Ironside   
2 Dec 2013
Life / Lack of human rights in Poland? [132]

With serrated edges ?????

And most of the 'weapons' look like the kind of cutlery you are likely to find in any hotel.

Gee I'm not an expert but I could kill you with any kitchen knife of your choosing in two minutes. Provided you would not run.
Ironside   
2 Dec 2013
News / PiS spokesman steps down after Poland's CBA find undeclared cash in his bank account [22]

its coalition partner when it's leader said that raping some women wasn't really rape.

RIP Leper said that one couldn't rape a prostitute. Ironically one of his cronies has been sentenced to prison for a rape. If I'm not mistaken while PiS was in charge. Where all those prison sentences for corruptions committed while PO government rules.
Ironside   
2 Dec 2013
News / PiS spokesman steps down after Poland's CBA find undeclared cash in his bank account [22]

I don't think any of the major parties here promote that, whatever it is.

The line between promote and stand in the way can be blurry at times. Definitely PiS is not going to stand aside when gender ideology is going to be promoted. That is a one of two things I like about them.

You on the other hand admitted that is the main reason you don't like them. Fair enough.
Ironside   
2 Dec 2013
Life / Lack of human rights in Poland? [132]

Much of the 'arsenal' of weapons turns out to be ordinary kitchen knives.

So? You are working under misapprehension that an ordinary kitchen knife cannot be used with a deadly efficiency to kill people.

What do you mean, "I don't know that."

I mean that Polish police doesn't answer to you and doesn't have to present you with a evidence against foreign soccer fans.
Did Italian diplomacy intervene? If not you have no case just your guess work. Anyway as I said worst they have been treated in the same way Polish soccer fans are being treated. In fact you better have proof for your claims that such an action has been retaliation for the treatment Polish soccer fans received from the Italian police.
Ironside   
2 Dec 2013
News / PiS spokesman steps down after Poland's CBA find undeclared cash in his bank account [22]

This money that the PiS bid has needs investigating. That party's brief term in office before they were dumped showed us how corrupt they are yet still these scandals happen.

You don't like them just because they were against gender ideology being promoted by a government.

The scale of corruption between what the CBA found with the tenders of it equipment runs into the hundreds of millions of dollars. This is directly tied into PO goverment officials

Indeed but some people prefer to lash at showdowns rather than admit that their political darlings are bad eggs.
Ironside   
2 Dec 2013
Life / Lack of human rights in Poland? [132]

I'd like to see the evidence of their having done anything wrong.

You don't know that. At worst they have been treated in the same way Polish soccer fans are being treated.

I most probably would.

Bless you.
Ironside   
2 Dec 2013
Life / Lack of human rights in Poland? [132]

I get the idea that because a number of Legia fans were arrested in Rome, the Polish police decided to round up and charge an equal number of Lazio supporters in Warsaw. Don't seriously expect justice and fairness.

Any links or evidence or just your well funded (on prejudice) suspicion.

And the Polish police must be pretty pathetic if they feel threatened by small kitchen knives.

I'm sure that if you would have been stabbed repeatedly in your guts with a small kitchen knife you would just laugh it off.
Ironside   
2 Dec 2013
UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

come on when it comes to immigration there is a lot of noise and any debate is being reduced to silly squabbling; people are talking either about evil foreigners and too much of them and some underclass in British society or about laziness as a leading characteristic of the British working class.

I expected you to do better than that. Sorry!
Also as rightly point out by blue you seem to lack empathy.
Ironside   
2 Dec 2013
UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

I haven't written any xenophobic abuse.

Unfortunately you have written a lot of non-cohesive opinion ranging from feeling, guesses and your opinion as thing should be.
I have noticed that many educed Brits have a real problem with a learned outlook at the world.
I mean what are we talking about here? Where is logic and order in this debate.
You engage in some heated exchange about alleged underclass in both countries. What it has to do with anything? I simply do not see connection.

You have turned on some kind of defensive mode which makes you posting nonsense.

I've seen lots of abuse from yourself to your own people, however.

After 20 years in Poland I would think that Poles are somewhat your people too.
Ironside   
2 Dec 2013
History / Slavic vs Germanic thinking.... and the philosophical differences [251]

Hmmm, and I always thought Kopernikus was German... ;)

In that case Merkel is Polish :(

The Hugenots however claimed practically 'asylum' status as a persecuted minority in staunchly Catholic France, thus Prussia merely offered them their succor as a supposed "free" state (although of course, she wasn't "free" at all)!

They influenced Prussian elites big time.
Ironside   
1 Dec 2013
UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

The idea of hardworking Poles and lazy Brits is a myth. Unemployment is higher in Poland than in the UK.

Gee ! read again sentence I quoted.

No doubt Bangladeshis would be happy to work for minimum wage in Poland Then we would be hearing from them about lazy Poles who didn't want to work.

I think Poles are happy to work for minimum wage in Poland.