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convex   
15 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

Sorry, the text is in Russian, but the picture is very interesting; the red line marked as "ideal landing path", and yellow is the actual path. Thick yellow line is the path change after the plane hit the tree.

That's not really that odd, there was no localizer to keep it lined up. From what I understand, they were flying an NDB approach which would mean that they'd only be flying based on heading. That's why the minimums are so high.
convex   
15 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

Yes, I looked at the link.

And still can't find any nozzles from which fuel could be dumped. I see the flap track coverings. Those are the big white things sticking out under the flaps. I just can't see any nozzles here. Maybe my eyes are bad... Does anyone else see them?
convex   
15 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

Here are Tupelov 154 photos CLEARLY showing, to those who are not blind and retarded, fuel ejectors on wings

You do realize that you think that flap track coverings are fuel ejectors, right? I gave you a beautiful hi res shot of a Tu-154s wing and asked to point out where the "fuel ejectors" are. You couldn't do that. Find me one reference on this big wide internet of a Tu-154 dumping fuel. Just a single one, and we'll all be quiet and get back to FSB headquarters.
convex   
15 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

This isn't rocket science.

You're right, it's not. Look at the picture.

You're right about the Tu drinking a lot of fuel. You're wrong about there being a law that requires it to be able to dump fuel. The Tu can legally land over weight. Fuel consumption in the first hour is close to 11 tons, settling down to about 7 tons per hour in cruise. MTOW on the Tu is 100 tons, MLW is 80 tons, the maximum structural landing weight is 100 tons. That's the same logic that lead to Boeing not having to equip the 737 with the ability to dump fuel.
convex   
15 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

737 was designed for shorter flights with decreased fuel capacity. Fuel dumping capacity not required.

The range of the Tu is about 1000km more than a 733, and less than a 738. The Tu does carry about twice as much fuel though....but, MTOW on the Tu is 100 tons, MLW is 80 tons. No reason to dump on that flight, even if there was a possibility.

It is jettisoned out from rear of wings. You can see it in this photo:

Where at? There are quite a few photos there. I don't see any with a nozzle for dumping fuel.
convex   
15 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

The 737 doesn't have a problem landing with full fuel, neither does the Tu.

The POH is in Russian, but I'll try to find it. There should be a pdf floating around somewhere.

Here's a quick one though, can you find on the Tu where the fuel is supposed to come out?

Do you have any idea how much time that actually is?..

Did you read the post?

- (navigator) por. pil. Artur ZIĘTEK - total time: 1069h (on Tu-154M - 59h, as navigator)
- (flight engineer) chor. Andrzej MICHALAK - total time 330h

Re-read it. Experienced pilots, fairly low time flight engineer and navigator.
convex   
15 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

Great fog--the fog of all fogs! Greatly exaggerated. See this video

That looks like 400m of visibility as was reported, and the ceiling is obviously very low. That gives you 3 seconds to react to a changing situation.

Aviation 101: dump fuel as last resort when you have no other choice to prevent explosion on impact

Aviation 101: dump fuel as a last resort to make your plane lighter

Reality 101: the Tu-154 doesn't have the ability to dump fuel

The reality is that the pilots were experienced, the navigator and the flight engineer weren't. There was bad weather, communication problems, and a hand flown approach.

- (captain) kpt. pil. Arkadiusz PROTASIUK - total time: 3528h (on Tu-154M - 2937h)
- (first officer) mjr pil. Robert GRZYWNA - total time: 1939h (on Tu-154M - 506h)
- (navigator) por. pil. Artur ZIĘTEK - total time: 1069h (on Tu-154M - 59h, as navigator)
- (flight engineer) chor. Andrzej MICHALAK - total time 330h
convex   
15 Apr 2010
News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]

Kaczynski did die a martyr to the cause of bringing Katyn to light. There are more important things for Poles to be fighting over right now other than where he gets buried.

That was a side effect of a Tupelov flying into the ground, he wasn't a martyr. A martyr is killed for their belief. If Vaclav Havel got hit by a bus going to a theater in Prague, he wouldn't be considered a martyr.

The problem with burial is that it's really hard to get them out once they get in. But honestly, it's done. I don't think he should be there, but that's just me and a majority of non PiS voting Poles.
convex   
15 Apr 2010
News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]

No, my idiot friend. YOU are the mediocre element.

What have you done in your lifetime?

Wow, you're at it again. Instead of stepping up and explaining why your national hero, one of the greatest Poles ever, should be laid to rest at Wawel, you go attacking other people.

he was a President and a hero the majority of people

He was the President, and respected for the position be the majority of Poles. but...hero? Only to PiS voters, and it seems there are fewer of those with every election...
convex   
14 Apr 2010
News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]

Seriously, is it that hard for you to take that Poles actually think of Kaczynski as a hero, in more ways than one?

But how many actually think he's a hero? It's not hard for me to imagine that some Poles think he's hero. Look at the response. Everyone is sad, but hero is a stretch. Based on your heroic criteria, I'm guessing Komorowski will be laid to rest at Wawel as well? Or does the person in question also have to line up with your political views in order to be considered a hero?

And you, Yank-off?

Yea, by the way, you're welcome on behalf of all "Yank-offs" for flying that C-17 to Warsaw today.

My point is that you won't even be remembered in 60+ years when you are dead. Kaczynski will be. (for numerous achievements) Maybe, just maybe if you become someone of standing, you will be able to pass criticism. As of right now, you are just some nameless, delluded net entity... One of many millions.

What does it matter that I won't be remembered in 60 years? What does that have to do with Kaczynski? It's not a contest. How am I deluded, and about what? I know he's more important than I'll ever be. Not doing a very good job at belittling me.
convex   
14 Apr 2010
News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]

And you will rot in some cemetary full of other mediocres. Whats your point?

You aren't Polish, and you have ZERO right to play down what he has contributed to Poland.

I will indeed, what's your point? Why are you so defensive? Prove me wrong instead of resorting to name calling.

Aren't you half Polish?
convex   
14 Apr 2010
News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]

In 50 years Kaczynski will be remembered as the president that died in a plane crash. That will be his legacy.
convex   
14 Apr 2010
News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]

Wawel is only for special people and Kaczynski was less than average

Pick the odd one out.

Kosciuszko, Sobieski, Jadwiga, Kaczynski, Sikorski, Poniatowski...
convex   
14 Apr 2010
Life / Bilet, controler and the Poland Police. [78]

I was thinking we should have a PF BBQ/meet up/thing-a-ma-jig, either in Wroclaw or Warsaw this summer, as they are in between Krakow and Poznan and a lot of other places.

*cough* vote for Wroclaw...
convex   
14 Apr 2010
Law / The Euro, is it a good idea for Poland? [66]

A friend here imports big machinery from Japan, the Yen went up in value and the Zloty went down, creating an even bigger gap for his business.

That's why you hedge on big contracts involving different currencies. Any competent financial adviser with basic risk management skills can put this together.
convex   
14 Apr 2010
News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]

£ukasz, at the moment this is only Viktor Timoshkin's opinion. It could be just as possible that the the president asked the pilot if he thought he could land. We just don't know yet.

Again, it wouldn't be odd to attempt an approach. If the pilot arrived at minimums, he would have performed a missed approach and then attempted it again, at which point there would have been pressure to put the plane down. I just think that it's highly unlikely that the pilot would have been pressured to put the plane down on the first approach.
convex   
13 Apr 2010
News / Where is 'the first contact with the ground' of the Polish Airforce One [17]

the pilot was under pressure/stress to land on time. he misread his instruments. hitting the mast (if he did) makes no difference as all had gone wrong moments before. he had already ditched fuel on one of his circuits and gave himself no other chance.

GPWS would have alerted him that he was low. The plane isn't capable of dumping fuel.