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Ironside   
29 Dec 2013
Polonia / Poles in Kazakhstan ignored by the "Polish" state. [18]

Poles in Kazakhstan are those who survived deportation from region: Zhitomir, Kamieniec Podolski, Dołbysza. It was Soviet operation called "Polish operation" carried out in the years 1937-1938.

In the period from August 1937 to September 1938 Soviets killed 111 thousand Poles and 64 thousand received sentences of more than 10 years the camp their wives were sent automatically to a minimum of 5-8 years in the gulag.

In the Soviet Union was deportation often called resettlement were an administrative penalty. Still people with small children and elderly have been dropped in the middle of the steppe, and most of them (especially children) perished.

Some Poles displaced in 1936 to Kazakhstan, survived persecution. It is difficult to estimate the current size of the group. In 2009 in Kazakhstan about 34,000 people declared Polish nationality while people with roots is a much larger group, estimated for about 100 thousand.

After many years of waiting for help from Poland many Poles accepted the Russian proposal.
The authorities of the Russian Federation provide transportation and facilitate the arrival in selected regions of Russia for them. They are being given health benefits, the right to education, and pensions for the elderly, despite their Polish nationality. They are being granted Russian citizenship after two or three months.

Also Germany accept exiled Poles as part of the so-called return of uprooted and family reunification. After 1941 in Polish villages in Kazakhstan Soviet Union settled Germans from a Volga region in Russia. Having lived for almost three generations in the same settlements Germans and Poles have developed strong family ties. At the moment, there is about 20 thousand Poles from Kazakhstan living in Russia and several thousand in Germany

So called Polish State ruled by Polish Soviets takes in about eight to 20 families a year mostly those who are lucky or who can afford that with a negligible assistance of the state.
Ironside   
28 Dec 2013
News / 70% of Poles like Komorowski. Do you? [120]

He is supporting current government and have been PO member. I haven't seen him vetoing any of those things, it means he is supporting it.
Ironside   
27 Dec 2013
News / British teacher stabbed in Poland [116]

And yes, Warsaw's Praga would be such neighbourhood, I guess, from what I've heard.

Ostobramska do not really (or didn't) class as a bad neighbourhood but there are plenty of blocks of flats, so ...

What do you mean?

I mean that they do not call you people from your region scyzorki for nothing.
Ironside   
27 Dec 2013
News / British teacher stabbed in Poland [116]

don't understand what you're saying. What do you mean by "nothing looks like have been described in that newspapers"?

I mean that nobody busted into somebody's apartment for a mysterious reason. Rather we see that few friends have been drinking and then they went to some estate and being loud and obnoxious drew attention of thugs. Not that they should be stabbed for that but they should be wiser than that. That all I'm saying. Do you understand now?

Yes, I am sure :)

Are you sure sure? :P
Ironside   
27 Dec 2013
News / 70% of Poles like Komorowski. Do you? [120]

but he is doing his job very well indeed.

You mean it is his job to steal money from retirement funds or indebted Poland to the hilt?Who is he working for then?
Ironside   
27 Dec 2013
News / British teacher stabbed in Poland [116]

Ironside, normal people don't walk with knives in Poland and don't stab people. Do you understand?

what are you arguing about? I', only saying that nothing looks like have been described in that newspapers. As for people not walking with knives in Poland, are you sure you are from K.?:)

Group of friend have been partying and being loud in on some estate in Warsaw. Have been accosted by thugs or locals who used knives in the alteration that ensued.

Where did I said that is OK to stab people? I have only pointed out that it seems at it was five to two, seems rather unlikely that two dudes attacked five dudes. Seems to be rather strange. .
Ironside   
27 Dec 2013
News / British teacher stabbed in Poland [116]

It is interesting that you define Poland as being 'non-European'. I thought it would be disparaging to Poland to define it in such a way.

I'm being sarcastic after all it seems that Poland is more civilized place than those stuck up European countries who think the world about themselves and who without the USA support and military

Most likely they didn't 'lie', but rather misunderstood the situation (if it's the same incident).

presence would have succumbed to the Soviet Union without a fight.
Most like because it is about Poland they let their imagination run free. Judging by the things that publish about Poles British papers are not particularity trustworthy. After all that Pierce Morgan chatterer have been some big shot in newspaper business in the UK>Wasn't another British papers magnate Maxwell involved with the Institute or some other scandal?

ronside, what on Earth are you talking about? The facts are that four men were stabbed and apparently the attackers were unharmed.

That we don't know what had happened apart from the fact that two people apparently used knife. We don't know which side have been an aggressor and who started that row? That all I'm saying basing it on the fact that there were two people against five. We don't know.

doubt that, tbh. I've lived through the 90's and it was worse back then

Worse? No, Mafia were shooting out between themselves, it had nothing to do with people ready to stab others on a slightest provocation.
Ironside   
27 Dec 2013
News / 70% of Poles like Komorowski. Do you? [120]

Remember that some of us are here on the ground and don't depend on the media.

Maybe you are too deep in the forest to see the big picture?lol!

What else would you call it.

I would call what it was a government. If you would call JK government a regime then every government in Poland should be called regime and Tusk's government especially so.
Ironside   
27 Dec 2013
News / British teacher stabbed in Poland [116]

hey decided to party on a stairwell of the wrong building where the thugs lived not their own apartment.

Well if that is the story related in the English paper, then seem to be obvious that that paper lies about what has happened. After all those alleged thugs showed unusual restrain, it wouldn't be characteristic for western European thugs..

Now the prosecutor is seeking witnesses to support the thesis of how two thugs attacked five slightly drunk, perhaps drugged and rowdy but otherwise polite and innocent people who decided to have a party on a stairwell of an apartment building they do not live in.

Well if it was a qestion of two attacking five that would indeed rise a qestion what has really happened there.

Strange how none of the articles mention that one of the victims was English, not even one of them. And also strange how those articles are about five victims, while the original one is about four victims. Could it be that there was more than one stabbing in the Warsaw region in the same week? I wonder.

His being English was in itself a non issues and had nothing to do with that alteration. Because there were four victims in a party of five as one of them has run away and remained unharmed, you wouldn't call him a victim would you? I would say that is a very unlike possibility.

Hard to imagine middle-aged teachers being as rowdy as someone who stabs people.

Well, some people naver learn and after a drink or two they are none the wiser. After all middle-age is not exactly guarantee of wisdom and restrain. After all I have to fight that notion that two weeks in tropics in a company of a young blond bimbo would do me good and my wife would never known.

Exactly. While one can call Praga many things, 'surrounded by a forest and overlooking a lake' isn't one of those things.

Well as that dude has been vising a friend so maybe that was the place where his friend lives as the article suggest.

And I've noticed there have been more kife attacks in Poland since some time then there used to be.

European influence maybe, people are coming back from places and bringing back unhealthy custom form those places
Ironside   
27 Dec 2013
Real Estate / Prices of agricultural land in Poland [39]

Or did it give millions of Poles access to their own housing for the first time ever.

Do they own it? No mortgage payments along with a hefty fee for nothing?

didn't have to smell everyone else's kapusta on the stairwell

What are you talking about? do you even know? Cabbage factor in finances, cabbage for brains?, smell of the cabbage in the mooring? what is all that cabbage about?

How many of these people have lost their homes since 2008 ? V

How long do they have to pay to paid it off? Till they are 67 or till they drop dead?

Without banks then there would be no way to make this advance in the standard of living here.

Yeah Hail to the banks they made your dream came true; they will improve your standard of living and make your life easier and care-fee err free that is. Are banks not great?
Ironside   
27 Dec 2013
News / 70% of Poles like Komorowski. Do you? [120]

Most of Poland.

Most of the media?Do not equate it with Poland. So all the world for you is Poland or part of it, after all somebody voted on him like ....majority.

. And the L/JK regime

LK regime lol! I'm sure you have been persecuted by the regime. Did the new regime gave a medal for your pains? :D
Ironside   
27 Dec 2013
News / 70% of Poles like Komorowski. Do you? [120]

Active only in trying to turn Poland into an international joke.

Oh really? Who has been laughing? Definitely not Georgians.

And no need to wait for 'confirmation' of any death. Just news that his predecessor was incapacitated.

Do you make it up as you go?
Ironside   
27 Dec 2013
Real Estate / Prices of agricultural land in Poland [39]

It's hardly a scam really is it. Its just not ethical parasiting off people who are ill informed or have little life experience.

It i scam if there is there is no way people can differentiate between advertisement and an independent assessment by experts. No everyone is aware especially in Poland that nowadays so called experts are just for the most part advertisement agents. Particularly in banking and financial sector but not only.
Ironside   
27 Dec 2013
News / 70% of Poles like Komorowski. Do you? [120]

Only if he wanted to break the rules according to the constitution. The gentlemen had no choice in the matter.

What is that you don't understand? It is not a chain in command in the military when one automatically steps in as someone need to be in charge 24/7. He didn't wait for confirmation of the death of the President and took over in a heart-beat and I mean not only nominally but he took p[positive step to practical take over the President office while nobody yet knew for certain what has happened.

I'm not saying that he didn't have the right to do it but I'm saying that your claim he is all duty and no ambition is not true.

By the way he is not a gentleman. Not in my books anyway.

Anyway, good that he did his duty and good that the public confirmed him in this role.

Good for whom? As it is not good for the majority of people in Poland.

He's probably the best person in that role

What role? In that system he is yet another redundant cost paid by Poles for the benefit of the few.

His predecessor LK was an unmitigated disaster and a disgrace to Poland and to Europ

At least he was active in the international politic, giving Poland an active factor in the world of diplomacy. He practically helped to enure Georgian independence for the time being.

Now Poland is just a yes-man for others.

AK was ok but the alcohol was an issue a

AK should end up in jail where he belongs.

LW started off well but became increasingly reactionary and wasn't good at standing up to the church.

Standing up to the church? WTF? What it has to do with anything? Is that your criteria of a good President or a politician? Those are good who support your radical views and bias?

He wasn't good because he is one uneducated twit and poser whose only title to be somebody in the politics was being a front-man for that clique that took over Poland after formal-end of the Soviet occupation.
Ironside   
26 Dec 2013
News / 70% of Poles like Komorowski. Do you? [120]

Not so much ambition as the Constitution.

no, he could wait for confirmation and then move to take over, after all President's function in Poland is not vital to the state workings.
Ironside   
26 Dec 2013
News / 70% of Poles like Komorowski. Do you? [120]

He does what it says on the packet and first became President through duty rather than ambition

The Death of the previous President haven;'t been confirmation when he took over - very fast, I would suggest ambition rather than duty.
He cannot spell.
Ironside   
25 Dec 2013
Love / Why are Polish girls so confusing? [30]

It's a non-issue for me, I'm not sure why we're even discussing it.

Well, I like to find patterns in human behaviour and that difference was interesting for me to take part in this discussion. Explaining to 23 years old that girls are not confusing but do differ from boys is boring and best left to the kindergarten teachers.

But IMO it isn't a custom because there is no shared agreement among the girls and women of Poland along the lines of 'We never kiss on a first date'.

I would argue that there is no need for shared agreement as long as majority of people behave as if there was shared agreement.
Ironside   
25 Dec 2013
Love / Why are Polish girls so confusing? [30]

Ironside, thank you for the definition, but I still don't see it as a custom (zwyczaj). I've never heard anyone saying:

/custom is something which goes without saying, people are just doing it, #

There's no fixed rule that people don't kiss on a first date, but for sure they will kiss on the second or sth xD

custom is not about fixed rules but about what majority of people are doing - i.e. majority of grils do not kiss on the first date, I'm not saying wheather it is right or wrong, just is;

I'm not saying that all grils in a certain country would kiss on the first date but that I think more would do so than in Poland.

I've noticed in the American films that there's this "third date rule" in the US (third date means sex) but there's no such thing in Poland and even that "third date rule" isn't really considered "a custom" in the US, is it?

Come on movies are movies; nevertheless I claim that there is such a custom not a rule in Poland when it comes to kissing on the first date.

Generally Polish women are more doing more song and dance at the start of a potential relationship than women from other countries I'm familar with. (not sure about Japan, as I have only ever dated only one woman from that country)
Ironside   
25 Dec 2013
Love / Why are Polish girls so confusing? [30]

, I wouldn't call it "a custom", it's not like it's some fixed rule or sth.

A practice followed by people of a particular group or region
Ironside   
25 Dec 2013
Love / Why are Polish girls so confusing? [30]

It's not about some custom.

Well, if we are talking generally it is about custom. I have never kissed on the first date while dating Polish grils. Second date, yes but not a first one, I think it is about custom.

Whereas grils from others countries do not care if that is a first date or not.
Ironside   
25 Dec 2013
USA, Canada / Why do Americans (and Canadians) hate Polish people? [226]

I am not sure where you got anything about selling anything in that post.

Spelling dear Madame spelling.

think most jokes are funny when the punch line is unexpected but immediately understandable.

I have specific sense of humor, most thing that people find funny I find not funny at all or mildly amusing. I laugh at things most people do not find funny.

The joke is that it is not really a 'Polish' joke.

I think it is totally immaterial and boring.

Most Americans with a last name ending in 'ski' but do not speak Polish.

I doubt that but if you are right I would say that is more about acculturation not about the language.
Ironside   
24 Dec 2013
USA, Canada / Why do Americans (and Canadians) hate Polish people? [226]

This is a test. I would like to know how many Poles are offended by this Joke. I realize that it is English language centric. I am not sure how many native Polish speakers would get why it is funny.

Why Poles would be selling anything in English, their native langude is Polish, in Polish toboggan is gibberish. It is funny cause it is stupid like most jokes. The qestion is why would Poles be spelling English words? Can you read

the End

in Chinese? No ? hah-aha?
I guess that joke says more about jokers than Poles,
Ironside   
24 Dec 2013
Love / Why are Polish girls so confusing? [30]

At which date were you trying to kiss them first?

Doesn't matter, some other nationalities do not have that custom that kiss on the first date is no no. After all if you agreed to date a guy surely at lest you gonna kiss him. Why wait?
Ironside   
23 Dec 2013
News / British teacher stabbed in Poland [116]

While one guy is dead and another fights for his life, and two families have had a terrible tragedy due to something that happened in Poland.

That a free society to you. If there would be a moral code respected by the state I'm sure we would see much less incidents like that.

Anyway coming from England you are aware that it is more common occurrence there than in Poland.

What 'other way'?

In a way that would suggest that that stabbing had anything to do with his passport.
Ironside   
18 Dec 2013
Polonia / German police aggresively manhandle Polish citizens? [16]

Seems that these people were distributors of counterfeit money. Their cars were stopped by police and the men inside became extremely aggressive when the cops tried to arrest them, even crashed into a police car while trying to get away.

Allegedly.
Ironside   
18 Dec 2013
Polonia / German police aggresively manhandle Polish citizens? [16]

Of course Polish police would never do anything along the lines of aggressively manhandling Polish citizens and therefore this must be an example of the German police targeting Poles:

Do you have any examples of the Polish Police aggressively manhandling random foreigners in Poland? Because only that would be relevant here.