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Bratwurst Boy   
3 Dec 2010
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Well...foreigner isn't foreigner.

The narrative was that of a germanic people...Germans, those of german heritage and peoples with germanic heritage. Those could gain entry into the Waffen SS as it was seen as a truly international army where the soldiers from all over Europe shared the same heritage, values and goals.

National borders didn't meant a thing, but race and blood was everything!

In the beginning the LSSAH was of course german citizens only but during the course of the war individuals with germanic heritage who fit the high racial standards and where willing to kill and be killed for the Führer came from the conquered western and northern countries to replenish the ranks which suffered more and more from the battle losses.

But it was never to that amount as in other units. The LSSAH held after all the pride of the place of all units till the end.
Bratwurst Boy   
3 Dec 2010
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Fine: you know better than the order of Himmler and Polish army officers who fought against Polish SS. Well done you!

For the polish witness:

The Waffen-SS belongs probably to the most researched part of the german forces for more than 6 decades now. And there aren't any polish units, that's just a fact.

On the other hand I have maybe one explanation why one witness say such things. Because especially the LSSAH and later the Hitler Jugend division were extremely famous units. They were big in propaganda and everybody knew about them.

I gather this witness used those two units because he heard of them, not because any other more intimate aquaintance.

For Himmler:

Why do you ignore the rest of the article? It's from your own link, didn't you read it???

not in English

Hitler REJECTED Himmlers and Franks idea wholly!!!
And with racial reasoning at that...
Bratwurst Boy   
3 Dec 2010
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Poles were recruited into the SS

Nope!
My translation:

There are no polish units to find which took part in the fights on the german side. At least no one which in any kind showed their national character.
On reason was the stand of the polish society which in their overwhelming majority rejected any compromise with the occupiers. On the other hand can the Poles thank Hitler for their image as the "only people without a Quisling"
Offers to build polish units which were made to him from parts of the german establishment and certain polish circles did Hitler wholly reject till end 1944.

What is so hard to understand here???
Bratwurst Boy   
3 Dec 2010
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

So you agree it is possible that they were Hiwis? Interesting, according to nott, Poles were never recruited as Hiwis.

Of course, Hiwis were par of the course on the eastern front. But they were not used as soldiers but helpers with the more menial duties. They were prisoners of war after all who had just shortly before still fighted against the Germans.

Click them.

I let google translate it and I found that one:

...
This document is a note: "SS divisions have a certain percentage of Ukrainians, Czechs and Poles. 1 SS and 12 SS belong to the group."
The communication refers to an SS Panzer Division "Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler", and 12 Panzer Division "Hitler Youth", which in August 1944 fought in Normandy, among others against the Polish 1st Armoured Division.
Both of these units were German divisions, and so used the Poles had to be either citizens of the Third Reich, a Polish national, or Poles from Silesia, Pomerania and Great Poland, entered on Volksliste.
During the fighting in Normandy in the summer of 1944 the Allies captured were placed in huge crowds of soldiers of the Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS, so the information about the Poles in an SS division, and 12 could have come from prisoners (among whom undoubtedly were also Poles).

Volksliste, huh?
Don't tell me we go into that old argument again???

Volksliste is not ethnic polish. The Waffen-SS got and the Wehrmacht was chronically short of soldiers, hence the Volksliste and the recruitment of anybody who could proof their german heritage in the whole of Europe, regardless of the country they were in, but you know that Harry.

Of course there had been non-german Waffen-SS divisions like SS Wiking and others but I wonder about the mention of especially the 1st and the 12th SS, the two most (together with the 3rd SS Totenkopf) the most least likely units to have non-germanics in their ranks.
Bratwurst Boy   
3 Dec 2010
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Well, apart from the 300 Russians....

Hiwis weren't members Harry..."Hilfswillige", it's quite different. They neither had to follow the ideals of the Nazi Ideology nor do they had to apply to the standards of selection for membership as they weren't members of the Waffen-SS.

They did chose between the misery of a POW camp and helping the german troops carry their stuff, practically a choice between life and death.

As noted above, I'm rather more inclined to believe a source from the time who was actually there then than somebody who was neither there nor then.

May I ask for your source?
Who told you that a polish, ukrainian or czech youth ever was a member of the 12th SS Hitler Jugend?

...that is to funny!
Bratwurst Boy   
3 Dec 2010
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Aryans, germanic folk...look at the names, Harry, no eastern folks!
And Hiwis at the end of the war (especially during the war in Russia), not members.

The LSSAH was the jewel in Hitler's crown, don't forget that!

As the SS began to swell with new recruits, the LSSAH remained the pinnacle of Hitler's Aryan ideal. Strict recruitment regulations meant that only those deemed sufficiently Aryan, as well as being physically fit and National Socialists, would be admitted.

Believe you me Harry! ;)
The LSSAH is a long time interest of mine...

12 SS

PS: 12th SS was the Hitler Jugend Division.

Comprised of indoctrinated german Hitler youth under the guidance of officers and NCO's from the LSSAH.
No czech, polish or ukrainian youth here either, not even Hiwis as they only saw action on the western front, for sure!

Your source is misinformed....

"SS divisions have a certain percentage of Ukrainians, Czechs and Poles. 1 SS and 12 SS belong to that group."

That is wrong!
Bratwurst Boy   
3 Dec 2010
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

1 SS

Ummm...1st SS was the famous Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler, his bodyguard division...they for sure hadn't had any czech, polish or ukrainian members! That one I know!!!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_SS_Division_Leibstandarte_SS_Adolf_Hitler
Bratwurst Boy   
3 Dec 2010
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Wouldn't you say that deals more with whole Polish units as opposed to individuals?

Of course...that was the bone of contention, wasn't it? Polish units in the Waffen-SS or not...
Bratwurst Boy   
3 Dec 2010
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Oh dear! It seems that the US National Archives and Records Administration have a copy of the exact order in which Himmler personally authorised the recruiting of Poles into the Waffen.

Harry, it seems that is a misunderstanding...read here (from your interesting link):

... non English content removed

That is quite explicit, don't you think?
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Dec 2010
Love / Good looking Polish women with ugly men [416]

Me pulling serbian girls to germany? They are not desperate BB.

Choosing you? VERRRRY desperate!

This turned into some JAWS worshiping thread, with BB posting picture of some guy (no boobs, no butt, masculine face) he said is the beautiful German woman.

She is so most beautiful!
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Dec 2010
Love / Good looking Polish women with ugly men [416]

Agreed! :)
All that "who is prettier by default" is crap :)
But it's started always by the same guy....I wonder why (or better not)....

...back to square jaws....
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Dec 2010
Love / Good looking Polish women with ugly men [416]

Past tense, BB. Now the hit in the model world is south america and russia.

ROFL...race beauty can't be lost like your pants!
If with South America you mean Giselle Bündchen, well...germanic too! Heh
Think about it when you drool next about the pretty girls in the women magazines!
Unavailable to you, better stick with those who aren't so choosy
(They slavic girls probably only put up with you because they think you will help them to come
to Germany - but in Germany you are just a little Wurst to the girls, sorry)
Serbian dicks are just ridiculous to our smart women! ;)

But thank you for admitting that germanic beauty rules... :):):)
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Dec 2010
Love / Good looking Polish women with ugly men [416]

dear bb, square looks like this:

Dearest Zeti!

Left oval - right square

See?

for me in no.1 or no.9

PS: Can it be that you are speaking of head forms but we about jaws???
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Dec 2010
Love / Good looking Polish women with ugly men [416]

Wishful thinking! ;)

Germanic girls rule the professional model world, most Hollywood celebrities are germanic....only sprinkled a slavic beauty here and there.

And with Sascha it's clear...he will have this problems getting a germanic beauty!
Sour grapes and all that...only serbian girls will want him, because they don't know any better.
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Dec 2010
Love / Good looking Polish women with ugly men [416]

btw do you know that he was an Olimpic swimmer? (actually he was to be send on Olimpic Games but got involved in some fight and was beaten up badly)

Yup...as was Thomas Kretschmann (swimmer I mean, not necessarily beaten up).

And me thinks you too like square jaws...because that's what Till has! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / CULTURE SHOCK! (of my Polish finance who visited the US) [210]

They didn't let Catholics for instance get top positions in governmental jobs and teaching positions,

I think that has/had to do with the deference of the Catholics to the Pope and the Vatican.
Hart do stomach for a country who just fighted for it's independence to listen and bow again to another far away country and it's boss.
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / CULTURE SHOCK! (of my Polish finance who visited the US) [210]

So does that mean I "like black music" or not then?

Hmmm....*scratches head*...I would say you like it! :)

because Americans think if you say aloud obvious (and neutral) fact that black people are black that means you are a racist.

Seems like it... They really have problems!
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / CULTURE SHOCK! (of my Polish finance who visited the US) [210]

I can understand why it might cause problems but I've no real problem with it myself.

That's what I was asking....WHY would it cause problems??? I never heard of anybody having problems with it till I read it here in this thread.

Anyway, it's not a term I would use because it's way too general and almost useless as a descriptive term.

Well...for most like me it's quite descriptive...all that we don't like! ;)
(I really detest rap and such)

Put it this way, if I went into a record shop in a predominantly black area with predominantly black clientele and saw all the categorised sections - "old school hip hop" "funk/rap fusion" "Detroit Soul" etc and then came accross "White music" I would be surprised to say the least.

Might be that there wasn't much of a black music till a few decades back?

Jazz is the only other form of music I know of where black musicians prevailed...but that is already it's own category.
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / CULTURE SHOCK! (of my Polish finance who visited the US) [210]

if that doesn't make it clear how the USA's mentality is different from Poland's, I don't know what else to say.

The US mentality was overwhelmingly WASP for the majority of their existence...meaning:
White Anglo Saxon Protestant

They mainly build the country and made it successfull...that is about to change sadly as the non-WASPS start to build majorities and hence taking over...expect the US to lose their edge.

I think that's the problem. It just lazy and not very accurate. It can sound dismissive too.

That's all your subjective opinions.

Rap, Hip Hop, R&B etc. stems from black artists, is still made mostly by black artists even as it now is part of the mainstream and whities try themselves on it. It belongs to their heritage, ask any black!

Black music is a term encompassing music produced or inspired by black people. In the 20th century, this term has come to usually refer to the many music genres of African American music, especially in the United States and Brazil.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_music

That's all!

If YOU have a problem with using "black" and think it's dismissive it shows more about your mindset than ours!

How are you calling it? "Chocolate" music? "Dark brown" music???

;)
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Dec 2010
Life / Polish stereotypes of other nationalities!? [472]

Girls: part of the common female offer from Eastern Europe with the
“Goddesses of Riga" representing highest beauty-level

Any link to that? :)
First time ever I heard of that...
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Dec 2010
Love / Good looking Polish women with ugly men [416]

A dream girl!!!

KateNauta.png- Not some slavic wussy

Germanic Beauty at its best! :)

And here another germanic male...just for Tasi! :)
(No wonder Europe did go all belly up as these came marching in) ;)

Thomas Kretschmann