Genealogy / Slavs are descendants of Sarmatians? [600]


I did just to be safe. Read the Wikipedia entries about the Etruscans, the Sabines, theThracians and so on. They provide good information about their origin and so on. None of which are Sarmatian. What information are you refering to?

You know Crow, so far you have failed to back up any of your claims. All you do is pointing to -seemingly nonexistent sources - or claiming things anyone with a basic knowledge of Ancient History can debunk.

I must say this really does not speak well of your character. First you insult the heritage of the two most important Ancient European civilizations and then you either have no arguments or you make them up.

Genealogy / Slavs are descendants of Sarmatians? [600]

The Etruscans were Ancient Greeks (or at least strongly influenced by them). The Sabines were Italics. Neither of them were Slavs, let alone Sarmatians.

The Ancient Greeks Colonized several cities around the Coast of Anatolia, but most of that are was occupied by Persia until well after the Athenian Golden Age. The Thracians were no Sarmatians (and indeed fought many battle against the Sarmatians).

Again, I am waiting for any evidence for what you claimed earlier.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

What makes a society peaceful is not its' cultural homogenity, but its' average age and how much opportunities it offers to its' young people. A society with many young people that have trouble providing for themselves are naturally less peaceful.

The demographic situation of Europe before WWI is a very good example for this.

Genealogy / Slavs are descendants of Sarmatians? [600]

Crow, neither the Romans nor the Greeks expanded in the Balkans as a precondition for their glory.

The Greek city states were tiny yet produced great philosophers like Platon, and build such wonders as the Akropolis.

Rome only really expanded in the Balkans (e.g. Illyrium) under Augustus, many years after they defeated Carthage and conquered Gaul.

And compared to the rich areas in Sicily, Egypt and Gaul, the Balkans were of considerable less importance. This is basic history and can be read in any history book.

Again Crow, you claimed that the Sarmatians have given many things to the West. What exactly are you refering to?

Genealogy / Slavs are descendants of Sarmatians? [600]


Then it should be easy for you to provide us with them. Because I have not found one single modern historian who support your claims.

Remember, this is what you were claiming:


If write something like this, one would expect that you are able to back it up. So far you utterly failed in this task.

Genealogy / Slavs are descendants of Sarmatians? [600]


Do you have any evidence for this, any sources preferably by modern historians?

You know Crow, I understand that you really want to believe all of this, but historical evidence simply do not support your claims. A quick Google search can debunk what you are writing herr. Most of the ruins you are refering to where build A.D., several centuries after the Greeks have build their architectural marvels. Greek coins are centuries older than Sarmatian history. And so on.

Genealogy / Slavs are descendants of Sarmatians? [600]

@Crow


No historian would ever claim that coins were a Roman or Greek invention. The oldest coins found so far are from 2600 BC. Greek and Romans are in so far noteworthy, because both produced coins in larger quantities and better qualities than before. However I am still waiting for a significant achievement that can be attributed to the Sarmatians.

Genealogy / Slavs are descendants of Sarmatians? [600]

I am just asking questions here. You are the one making all those claims, it is up to you to back them up with arguments.

Genealogy / Slavs are descendants of Sarmatians? [600]


Such as? I am asking for clear examples here. When people attribute the Ancient Greeks and Romans with the birth of Western Civilization, they usually talk about how they invented Democracy, Philosophy and so on. What have the supposedly great Sarmatians given to the West?

Genealogy / Slavs are descendants of Sarmatians? [600]

And what exactly, did the "Sarmatians" contribute to the West that could be deemed as a lasting achievement? Especially compared to those of the Greeks or Romans?

Genealogy / Slavs are descendants of Sarmatians? [600]

Netanyahu is neither an historian nor an archaeologist, not to mentions as someone who likes instrumentalize history as a weapon, his words have even less credibility.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

And perhaps with a better manager... .

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

There is only so much the EU can do when people insist on voting for corrupt politicians.

Which is why Italy is what it is today. And naturally, newer members benefit from closer scrutiny than more established ones.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

A comparison of the SU and the EU is just as asisine. Though I guess if someone only watches Breitart, he might start to believe any bs.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


No I do not get it, because this entire comparison is nonsensical. The EU is not using propaganda when it points out how immensely beneficial EU membership been for Poland. Those are simply facts, supported by many economic indicators.

Trying to draw parallels between the Warsaw Pact and the EU is a ludicrous endeavour. You would have to abandon all ration to do so.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Imaginary statistics perhaps. The Russians never invested anything in the GDR.

Unlike the EU in which every expenditure is accounted.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

@Bratwurst Boy


And to think, that this priceless artificat had almost been lost to thieves... .

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Hardly. Western Europe consists of wealthy, mature democracies which offer its' citizen a very high standard of living. Compared to this, Eastern Europe is still rather unstable, and has still a long way to catch up. The main difference is though, that Eastern Europeans are feeling more insecure about their national identity, because they still remember times when they were supressed by the Russians. Western Europeans feel secure about it, and rightfully so. One day Eastern Europeans will feel the same.

However as we see in Poland and Hungary, the road is not necessarily straightforward.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Aside from the millions of lives lost, Germany has in many ways never fully recovered from the consequences of the Third Reich.

Germany used to have several of the best universities in the world. German was the lingua franca in many scientific disciplines. All of that is gone. Never mind the historical treasures lost to war, destroyed by bombs or plundered by (mostly Russians). And in a way we are still paying for it, by having to rebuild East Germany.


Neither of them are consequences of losing WWII. In fact, West Germany had to spend a substantial amount of money for its' defence. The reason why we nowadays spend less is because we have now friendly neighbours and thus no longer need the kind of army we had during the Cold War.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


No surprise here. Germany has been trying for years to boost birth rates with similar measures, it doesn't make much of a difference.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

@Bratwurst Boy


I remember reading an article about retirement homes in Silesia that are trying to attract German retirees. The lower costs in Poland mean that each retiree gets attention by the staff (which speaks German) that would impossible to finance in Germany.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

I am more concerned over the fate of the Union than about Merkel. Many people in the CDU are tired of the escapades of the CSU, and if the Bavarians really do sink the coalition to back someone like Maaßen, we might indeed see a split between CDU and CSU.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

This is nothing new though. Safeguarding Israel's existence has been part of the FRG's reason of state dince its' inception and rightly so.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Which thankfully has not happened. Schulze might not have been calm about it, but he did not lower himself to their level. What he actually said had substance and served as a powerful that the modus operandi of the AfD has been seen before in the same building.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Which would probably be the biggest joke of the day. Gauland has set new post-war lows for the Reichstag and German politics and he continues to surpass himself.

It was nice to see him exposed. The SPD might have fallen grace, but in battling right-wing extremism, they might find back tl their roots.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

If you want to see an interrsting speech, you should have watched Schulze's speech afterwards. I am no fan of him, but the way he destroyed Gauland was a treat.

Not that Gauland made it difficult for him of course.

Sorry state of Germany all right. Crime at an all time low. Unemployment almost nonexistent. The highest numbers of tax payers in history. A budget surplus. Yep, Germany is doomed.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

@Lyzko


I fon't know the details regarding the UN, but the Basic Law was drafted 1948/49, and the UN exists sice 1945. The constitution initially included a ban on foreign missions, except UN missions, but that was amended after German reunification.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Well, looks like the discussion is purely theoretical anyway. The law experts of the government have today concluded that any air strikes without UN Mandate would violate international law, so according to the German constitution Germany won't be able to participate in the first place.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

To be honest, none of the other countries really matter except the USA. Even France and the UK are only able to commit a fraction of the US' air strikes.

I guess the USA simply wants other countries' support to get legitimacy, but I doubt this will work out in Germany's case. It is simply not worth the effort, considering what Germany can actually bring to the table.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Makes you wonder just what the American's goal is. Trump supposedly wanted to assassinate Assad, does he now want the support of other Nato partners for an heavier involvement? Because if it is just about punishing Assad for the use of chemical weapons, it would make little sense to ask the Germans for support. It is not like our Luftwaffe can make a substantial difference here.