Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]


Because legally he's not the father. He refused to sign the birth certificate.
I agree that cutting off one parent is wrong however sometimes (and I'm not saying that's necessarily what's going on here) it's a way to pressure the parent to support it's kid. If someone hides their income (like signing company over to some family member) and say they don't have any income it may be the only way.

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

Again-how would you support your kid if you got the custody?
You say 1000 Euro is like 250 Euro in Poland yet you think she can support herself and the kid for 200 which is as if they cut your benefits to 800. And she does it for money? Somehow I don't see that huge profit for her.

If she sells the stuff illegally then you have some kind of leverage but then you brought stuff to Poland with the intention of it being sold so it puts you in a dodgy position as well.

I don't know what kind of advice you expected but there are only 3 options:
-keep peace with you ex and leave things as they were.
-find legal advice and become legally the father of the kid
-forget about them
What you do is up to you but that is all. There is no other option for you


Seriously? Believe me your money is of no interest to me beside as a part of the discussion.

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

1- her saying it's her last chance to have a baby has nothing to do with it
2- it's admirable you looked at the future for you as a couple but in every relationship you have to see that there is a possibility things may go differently and you may split or your partner dies. How would you support the kid if you got full custody or your ex died?

3- her dating profile however awful doesn't change anything in your child situation
4- once you say she wants money then you say she doesn't want the money she wants the things you bring from The Netherlands...which one is it?

5- I doubt any court would agree that bringing that stuff that she has to sell is a child support. Her signing you do it has nothing to do with it. It's not money and it's not stuff for the kid. It does help her a lot but it's not supporting your kid.

6- you are getting 1000 euros and not working but you smirk when she doesn't want to work 40 hours for 200 ( she should move her as* to work if she can imo). You say you don't have money but think she will be ok on 200 euros supporting herself and the kid?

I am Polish but this is neither. It's two adults who can't solve their problems and the kid suffers in the end. She sounds like a b**ch but you sound like an as*. It seems to me you are worth each other tbh.

My advice is this- either save money and get a lawyer or as you said yourself

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

Sorry but you refused when she asked you to legally be the father of the kid.
You didn't send child support (not even 25 euros a month it seems) and instead gave her an unwanted second hand stuff that she had to try and sell. That's not a child support. If you sold it yourself and gave her money then it would be child support.

And unless you are abusive or dangerous the court would grant you visits (full custody is almost impossible unless you have proof that she is dangerous for the kid). The courts may be in favour of the mothers but they wouldn't strip you of your rights to visit just because she tells them to.

And when you say you are father on benefits that's been cheated and all that...
If she moved to The Netherlands how would you help to support your kid? Why would you be willing to sign you are a father then?

It may be that I read you wrong but your story looks more fishy to me the more you tell us about that situation.

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

Don't get me wrong, I do feel sorry for the OP and I don't want to make the mother a saint. I more tried to show that at least in two instances you can look at it from a different angle (his- I was scared she was tricking me, hers- he doesn't want to a knowledge the kid). For the daughters sake I hope they will come to an agreement.

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

By not signing child birth certificate you basically didn't admit the kid. Now because of it you first have to prove the kid is yours. For now she is a single mother and the kid has an unknown father. Sorry but that's the consequence of your decision, not her's. And I also wonder a bit about your child support payment arrangements. If you have proof of sending her money your situation is better. If you didn't pay then it's like this:

You didn't want to admit the kid and you don't want to pay for it's support.
So if you want the right to the kid (with all the responsiblities that come with it) go to the court.
And no, it's not the picture of Poles

Love / Do women in Poland change their surnames to a feminine form of their husbands' surnames? [40]


That's not correct although you are right about rules being simple. Whenever you marry, whatever sex you are you have three options:
Stay with your name
Get a double name with hyphen in between
Your partner's last name
Simple as that.

Women usually take the husband's name however if they are professionals or like their maiden name they choose the double name option. Men take women's name usually only if their own is silly.

Very, very rarely the partners stay with different names.

History / 60th anniversary of the Poznan uprising! [60]


One-they are not clerks,they are ELECTED politicians to rule over the region.
Two-they were the ones resposible for organising the ceremony so yes, it was up to them what they wanted to do and how they wanted it to look like.

History / 60th anniversary of the Poznan uprising! [60]


What the hell are you on about? What guest? The army? Army wasn't a guest! More like one of the entertainments planned for the day.

And even if we go along with your guest analogy:
What kind of guest comes to the host celebration party with an agenda of their own? Not too nice, is it?


However not having that plastic card means that you cannot vote which means you don't have even the slightest say in what's going on in, theoretically ,your country. You can't join military, become a policeman or any kind of politician (not even local one for you). It means that for every government in the world you are not Polish.

Many ppl died and sacrificed a lot to be able to call themself Polish, be able to vote for their own goverment and hold, what you call so lightly, a plastic card. So don't you dare wipe your dirty mouth with Polish citizenship- I for one am proud to hold a plastic card with that white eagle. Maybe for you swearing allegiance to another country means nothing but not to me.

History / 60th anniversary of the Poznan uprising! [60]


I can ask you the same about the 'beloved' comment. And I didn't say all Poles were disgusted but many were. It wasn't the place for it and the mayor asked for removing that part few times. He was told either Smolensk or no army. Well, he chose no army and I would do the same.

History / 60th anniversary of the Poznan uprising! [60]

You mean so beloved that he cannot stand as PM even though he's the leader of his party in order for his party to win?

Ppl all over Poland were disgusted by the attempt to push Smolensk into the celebrations.

News / Poland marching for life and family [132]

For those who are not familiar with Polish law and to put the discussion in the right prespective,
Women in Poland can have abortion legaly in three instances:
-the pregnancy threatens the women life or health
-the pregnancy is the result of a crime (rape, incest)
-the foetus is very sick.
Other than that you have illegal underground and trips abroad but in this disscussion that part is irrelevant.
Our pro life movement wants to ban abortion on any grounds.

Now.


I know what you meant however I don't think your analogy is useful. The difference between such cases and pregnancy is that ppl that need medical help don't require another human being body to do that. It's 9 month of putting women's body through enormous strain topped up with labour that, again, is not nothing.

If we look at it from your perspective why we don't take organs from ppl that didn't agree to donate? It saves lifes and, unlike with pregnant women body, they are not using them. We recognise this ppl right to decide about their body even though they will just rot in the ground or be burned.


Polish law allows only exceptions and that's why I mention it. We can talk all day about woemn who just sleep around, abort any time they get pregnant and all that but it's not about such cases,is it? They do it illegaly if they want to however that part won't be affected by the new proposal. Pro life ppl want to ban this three exceptions listed before.





The mother knew the baby in her belly will never smile, she will never hug it or feed it. It will never survive. She had to go many months in a state that should make her crazy happy knowing that that's not the case. Having ppl congratulate her, and all that. Than at the end of it she had to go through a labour (that is dangerous on it's own) just to give the pro life ppl the chance to say they saved a life. If at least the baby had a chance to survive somehow I would say that at least there was some point (even if I still believed she had the right to choose) but not like this.


I don't know, YOU don't know and the doctor didn't know either. However the parents decided that's what they wanted to do.


Me and people like me are not proposing anything at all- we are looking at the Polish law and see that if doctors refuses to do the abortion(when it's legal of course) he has to put the women in contact with a doctor that will.


We are not talking about situation where mother developed some disase and she is treated even if it harms the baby. That was never the point. We are talking about a situation when the pregnancy itself threatens mother's life. Will they abort then? What about ectopic pregnancies- will they be aborted or will the doctor wait for the homeorage? What about other conditions? What when the babies heart stops beating? Will they abort or wait for the (dangerous) miscarriage?


For one the 5yo knows what parents tell him and second it may or may not develop 'all the necessary trappings of a child. According to NHS up to 30% pregnancies are miscarried in the first tree month. Plus all the others pathological pregnancies... It's not like the foeatus has to be born. Nature itself plays many tricks on that view.

News / Poland marching for life and family [132]


Automatically? No. But do I think they should have such option? You bet.


Maybe you are not but I am. Raped women are as much part of the abortion discussion as the one that got pregnant just by accident.


The baby didn't have a chance. Can you tell me what was the point? It's not like there was the slightest possibility it will survive more than few days.


They are natural occurrences however inflicting them on ppl because of what you think is right and against the law is cruelty. The doctor had no right doing that.


Actually it's not. You know in what circumstances abortion is allowed in Poland so don't try to make it as if women in Poland abort on a whim. The pro life ppl are advocating tougher laws which in fact would mean that the foetus life would be put above the women's.

I have one question though- we had the question on whether or not the early stages of pregnancy is life or not. You ridiculed Jon for saying it's not but you didn't say why you think it is.

News / Poland marching for life and family [132]


Actually I mentioned that medical help is ok as long as it doesn't have to mean women carrying the baby.
And if it comes to that in my case I would want someone to turn off the switch and there was enough ppl fighting for that right for themselves.


Raped women don't choose that either yet the pro life ppl (at least in Poland) tried to force a raped 13 year old to keep the baby just recently.


The parents wanted the baby but at that point the parents knew that the baby is basically dead before the women gave birth. If that's not cruelty I don't know what is.

The thing is pro life ppl put the foetus life above the women's. Sometimes tragic stories are justified by 'we were fighting for life' but just one. The already born life doesn't bother them in the slightest (e.g. Roz's story)

News / Poland marching for life and family [132]

If it's a life that it can feel and live on it's own with medical help... Oh wait, it can't. The moment the medicine can take the foetus out of a women and it survives I will agree it's life.

What I don't like in the pro life movement is that they stop other ppl from having their choice. I don't go around telling ppl to abort, I don't stop them having their kids but they try to tell others what to do.

It's like Dr chazan who made a women give birth to a baby without half the skull and brain and few other birth defects. The baby died after few days. That's just cruelty.

News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

You do realise that the same ppl do have a homosexual boss/teacher/nanny the just don't know about it.
In my town we had a gay teacher. She divorced with her husband and started a relationship with women, they even raised her daughter from the marriage together. No one ever gave them a hard time. She was still a respected and liked teacher. In my high school we had two girls in a relationship. They hugged and held hand like any other couple. Again, they probably did have some troubles from time to time but neither the school authority nor the majority of students had any problem with that.

News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

The problem is Jhonny not all Christian think alike. It's a group of individuals with different views and even different values.. I know quite many Christians would be repulsed by some comments on here made in the name of Christianity. I know Catholics who think there should be abortion on demand (even if they themselfs wouldn't do it), that homosexual couples should have equal right to heterosexual ones, that women should be priests e.t.c.

So even if majority of ppl in Poland is Christian it doesn't necessarily mean they support this or that.

Life / Where to buy floor tiles in Warsaw Poland [7]

Castorama? and what do you mean by high quality? And how choosy are you on the design?

Off-Topic / Russian or French? Learning another language besides Polish [12]

I will say this:
I was learning both French and Russian. After some time I still love Russian but I hate French. It may be due to my maturity since I was a teenager when I started learning French but I never even thought about trying to learn that language again.

To me my emotional reaction to a language is very important and I could never learn one that I don't like. Just try and see which one gives you more pleasure.

UK, Ireland / Why English do not like Polish? [417]

You may even be considered Martian in USA for all I care. The fact is you are not. And believe me that Brit Bullies as you call them don't care that your great grandmother or some other long dead soul was Polish. But anyway it doesn't matter as you only make yourself look stupid.

I, as a real Polish person, never encountered any hatred on big scale towards Poles.

UK, Ireland / Why English do not like Polish? [417]

Please don't speak on the behalf of Poles. You are not one, you never even visited this country not to mention living here. Take your war with them to random.

I didn't notice any special animosity from British ppl. If anything some poorer and less educated ppl hold a grudge since they have to compete with Poles for work. Not unusual and can be seen in all countries. The only thing that is annoying is that some ppl when talking about immigration seem to only remember Poles.

As often as I met with frowns and hostile approach I also met with sympathy.

Life / Polish culture versus rotten West [279]

I saw quite many parents (even have one sad example in my family) that don't really talk to their kids. And I don't mean everyday chatter but proper conversations that shows what both parents and kids views are on certain things, about their dreams and their failures.

Also how often now parents and the kids sit together and talk about news, books e.t.c. ? How many parents really listen to the music their kids listen to and ask the kids what they like in it?

My sister in law had quite a few hip hop songs on her playlist after kids got interested in it. She wanted to know what her kids like and it turned out that few of them are actually nice and have merit.

Life / Polish culture versus rotten West [279]

The problem today is not the culture but the parents. The lack of conversation. Even if a kid saw a bit of porn (of course not shown by an adult because that's perversion) if the parents knew about it and talked with the kid and explained it's not how it is in real life than I doubt it would make that much harm. Probably similar to if he saw his parents having sex.

You are like the parents that want to change the ending of Red Riding Hood because it's too cruel. The thing is you cannot protect ppl and kids from different harms and especially from themself so the only thing you can do is try to give them the sense what is right and what is wrong. It's obvious you don't spend too much time with young ppl otherwise you would know that they are not much different then the kids in the past. The culture maybe changing but the aspirations, dreams and dramas are basically the same.

Life / Polish culture versus rotten West [279]

Seriously Polonius, if I didn't know any better I would think you are a bitter old maid hating youth.
I know that the average age on here is pretty high but it seems like some ppl don't even remember how it is to be young.

I listened to hip hop and I'm not violent at all, never took drugs or anything of that kind.
And suggesting you know what impact something will have is ******** because art (the same as everything else) is filtered through unique minds of the audience and no one knows what will happen with it then.

Life / Are Polish people the most patriotic people of the world? [8]

Simple- you can say whatever you want about your family but when someone else (outsider) tries to do the same you defend your family. Works the same with the country. And guests don't complain about the hosts house, do they?

Law / A general legal question about inheritance in Poland - debts [31]

Well, that depends if:
one- they were the guarantee
two- the property is the bank's "safety deposit"
three- did your in laws, if they are part of it, have insurence
If they didn't sign anything it's doubtful they will be any part of it. The worse case scenario is the property will be taken over by the bank and that's not too likely. However all depends on the circumstances. And the

News / Poland one step closer to visa waiver by US Senate [59]


Ok, let's put it like this:
I don't want to live in the USA but I do have a distant relatives there and suddenly I want to visit them. So here I go saying: I'm 28 yo, not working without a husband and kids...So what do you think- how quicly they will give me visa?

The system would definitely show high risk. But what? It's only assumption, I want to come back I just want to visit the country. Do you think there are not ppl like that?

News / Poland one step closer to visa waiver by US Senate [59]

I admit that many ppl that do get rejected would overstay but I can bet that as many are rejected even though they never wanted to stay in the USA.

Ok, so maybe a compilation? Not one of you find it weird that the actual number of overstayed visas is not included in any way? That basically it doeasn't matter?

News / Poland one step closer to visa waiver by US Senate [59]


If the system is so great why there are still ppl that get into USA AND overstay it?
As I said, let them do whatever they want but to me the actual number of overstayed visas would be much better indicator.


Why such cheap argument? As I said- I don't care if Poland is in the programme. If by the number of overstayed visa they decided Poland can't join I couldn't care less.


The USA has the right to decide how they want to deal with it so no, I won't sign it. Even if I think it's stupid.

News / Poland one step closer to visa waiver by US Senate [59]

Harder than the data about how many ppl actualy overtay? And remember that even if you do get a visa it's doesn't mean you'll be able to enter.

USA has every right to let in only the ppl they want I just think it's a stupid system.