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1jola   
30 Mar 2011
History / Shafting The Poles - article by Ralph Peters NYP [17]

Joe, I don't think the terms Wars for Jews or More Wars for Jews mean anything to posters here. We are mainstream here. We believe what our governments and their press tell us, critical thinking is highly discouraged, and any talk of Israel's security being the number one priority for U.S. foreign policy will be met with charges of antisemitism. In your case, the labels will proceed immediately to Reductio ad Hitlerum.

BTW, have you followed the neocon rebirth and calls for Libya, Iran, and Syria invasions? Same crew.
1jola   
27 Mar 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

I think the main beef is about those properties who have no living heirs. Jewish organizations wants compensations for those because that's the Jewish law. Polish law says those belong to the state.

Yes, that is a good one. A dead Jewish person's with no heirs horse belongs to future unrelated Jews. They should try that in the U.S. to see if it works first.

Everyone knows that that these organizations are running a scheme. Most Jews know this yet they stay quiet. They don't want to be labeled self-haters like Finkelstein was. Chomsky told him this would happen and his professional career would suffer greatly and that is what happened.
1jola   
27 Mar 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

Any Jewish claims do not exceed 14% of all claims. The Jews, those who are heirs, can get in line in Polish courts and seek justice. Their chances are just as good as the Poles'.

The only problem I have with this on-going swindle is that very few decent Jews speak up against this worldwide fleecing operation. Sikorski's wife could pen up a strong response in the Washington Post where she is a columnist(I think). That would be a good start.
1jola   
27 Mar 2011
USA, Canada / Where is loyalty of Polish diaspora in America? In USA or in Poland? What is priority? [63]

lol.. just some common sense.. if leftists were a group, they would not have me either!

They are various groups and these two were anarchists. Oh, I see, you're an independent thinker just temporarily out of independent thoughts. Now, are patriots void of common sense since everyone should, using their common sense as you do, come to the conclusion that patriotism is not a virtue and in fact it is bad? You should first see what patriotism is not before you start saying silly things.
1jola   
27 Mar 2011
USA, Canada / Where is loyalty of Polish diaspora in America? In USA or in Poland? What is priority? [63]

Then, we'll HAVE to pick up this discussion again when US invades Poland (or vice versa).

Shoot, and I thought you were ready to throw out some Emma Goldman, Bakhunin, or some other fellow revolutionary to convice me patriotism is evil or a myth. Just thought you had more to say. It is very popular in the leftist circles to try to convince people we are no longer part of nations but we should be now Global Village People. But since that is not the case, I take you are looking at what patriotism is through what you personally can observe. Having lived in your neck of the woods for a long time, I can sympathize with you as the notions about patriotism there can range from completely ridiculous to extremely dangerous. The interesting thing is that you forgot what it had meant and means in your old country.
1jola   
27 Mar 2011
USA, Canada / Where is loyalty of Polish diaspora in America? In USA or in Poland? What is priority? [63]

And here it is your default argument yet again. Did it ever work?

He learned this idiotic "argument" from another now ex-poster for whom it clearly did not work. In fact, he claimes that his repeated use of it caused him personal problems. You reap what you sow.

Try going through life without hurting others, even if it's just by words alone.

I'm trying, which has nothing to do with love for my country and my willingness to defend it when someone wants to invade it. That is what is expected of all able citizens, and that's why a charge of treason carries the most severe consequences. If your job requires a security clearance in the future, the nice men will explain to you that patriotism is indeed a virtue and not a myth.
1jola   
26 Mar 2011
USA, Canada / Where is loyalty of Polish diaspora in America? In USA or in Poland? What is priority? [63]

As far as "loving you country", that's just empty words

To you, yes, but not to most citizens of any given country. To some, loving their children or their parents are just empty words. Such virtues are generally recognized as good in any society though. In our culture, Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna are part of our tradition. But wait, you don't even consider these as virtues, so you would not flinch if someone wants to invade your country, there would be no reaction from you, nothing motivating you to defend the land you call home. Pathetic moral stance.

Just to remind you:

I don't consider partiotism to be a virtue. Very often it's a form of exclusion.

There are many other reasons why I think partiotism causes more harm than good, but I don't have much time right now.

And calling people unpartiotic is usually just a way of controlling them, keeping them from expressing dissatistaction with whatever decisions their government makes.

How is criticizing your government unpatriotic? I think you might be looking through some local issue there in Hicksville, Fla, where rednecks yell at each other 'you ain't patriotic if you don't like NASCAR.'
1jola   
26 Mar 2011
USA, Canada / Where is loyalty of Polish diaspora in America? In USA or in Poland? What is priority? [63]

these guys are living in the past. Future wars will be fought on purely economic bases,

That is why we are thinking of renaming the Defense Department the Love In Department and letting Florida housewives run it. Had you been brought up in a decent Polish home, with Polish traditions always valueing independence and sovereignty of your country, you would also feel compeled to be a patriot in your adopted home. These are higher values above your immediate need to consume. Wonder what went wrong in your early years to make you say you are not a partiot. Children usually grow up loving their country.
1jola   
21 Mar 2011
Love / The importance of Catholicism during marriage with a Polish girl [44]

One question to the audience is about: if my character as a liberal

Liberal view is what you will get here as 90% of posters here are not Polish (AJ is Dutch, BTW), and they mostly hate anything that has a cross on it. Dozens of threads will confirm this.
1jola   
21 Mar 2011
History / Aleksander Kwaśniewski was Slavic traitor, shame of Polish politics? What Poles think? [15]

OK, I'll bite since this forum has gone to shiite since you foreign leftists have ruined it.

Tell me, has U.S. ever instigated war where there was no interest in natural resources or strategic location? In this case, you should study up on the reasons why U.S. attacked Serbia, and please do not tell me it was for humanitarian reasons. Use the search feature on this forum for starters. I don't want to repeat myself, but I would like to hear your understanding of the invasion.
1jola   
21 Mar 2011
News / POLES FEEL LIKE JEWS HAVE TOO MUCH CONTROL IN POLAND - TRUE? [209]

Reply re: POLES FEEL LIKE JEWS HAVE TOO MUCH CONTROL IN POLAND - TRUE?

Apparently not. The Foreign Minister said plainly last week to these money grubbing Jewish organizations: "Fvck off, or get in line with the Poles and settle it in Polish courts like the rest of the Poles must do."

What they are after is "heirless properties" that belong to...Jews everywhere. Only if you have followed the plight of the holocaust survivors living in Israel in poverty despite billions paid out, will you begin to understand how much of a disgusting scam this really is.

Stay tuned for the upcoming threats from their side as this is always next.
1jola   
13 Mar 2011
USA, Canada / American man with a Polish wife. Will children be dual citizens? [20]

US Citizenship is based on where you are born, not the background of your parents. So if they are born in the US, they become US citizens automatically at birth.

Your post is confusing if not completely wrong. I hope you are not saying that a child born to a US citizen but not in the US is not a US citizen, because that would be false.
1jola   
12 Mar 2011
News / POLES FEEL LIKE JEWS HAVE TOO MUCH CONTROL IN POLAND - TRUE? [209]

Recent study suggests

A recent study from Germany, that is. Sample, 1000. Not a word about the Germans though.

Complete bollocks. Suposedly, some 60% would like a strong, uncompromising president. Right, that's why Teadybear Komorowski is asking Merkel and Putin what to say next.

German "polling" is about as reliable as the Soviet elections were. They did have elections and everybody voted.
1jola   
12 Mar 2011
History / What nation do Poles feel closer to? [74]

And then Ukrainians for being our countrymen in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

The Ukis lost our love when the OUN/UPA murdered over 100,000 Polish civilians in 1943. We want to forgive them but they are making it hard lately. The Russians are happy about that.
1jola   
12 Mar 2011
History / What nation do Poles feel closer to? [74]

Clearly Hungarians. Batory was one of our greatest kings.

The following year Batory had to give up his plan to strike directly at Moscow due to the lack of allocated funds. Instead, with 31,000 men he marched on Pskov, a near impregnable fortress with a strong garrison. Initial successes were finally repulsed and the siege became a blockade. In the terrible winter of 1581-2 the army would have mutinied without the iron will of the Chancellor Zamojski. In 1582 Ivan surrendered the whole of Livonia and Polock in return for the lands occupied by Batory. He had lost some 300,000 men, with the Poles capturing 40,000. During the campaigns independent Polish detachments had roamed deep into enemy territory causing havoc and directly threatening the Tsar.

jasinski.co.uk/wojna/conflicts/conf03.htm

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1jola   
12 Mar 2011
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Some of us have spent half our lives in Poland.

And I wish all of you a happy stay. I am not lumping all of you in a same bucket. I have lived and worked in both England and France(2 and 3 years). I have never felt anywhere close to understanding these societies, their culture, political systems, or history, and I would risk being laughed at if I considered myself an authority on the subject. The most I would dare was to make certain observations based on my experience, and I do speak these languages which allowed me to read the native press, books, editorials. People like Harry or Delphimine share none of these advantages yet they speak from the point of authority. That is why they are laughed at here. That and their contempt for us, our culture, history, and our patriotism. These self-admitted, stateless entities most likely are envious. They do a lot of damage sitting here daily spewing venom.

Regarding the thread topic I would hardly call the removal of the word "Polish" from "Deathcamps" as a victory, because Poland will still be thought of as an anti-Semitic place,

The point is that the squeeky wheel gets the grease. It does make sense to protest as you see they agree to change their way, the media that is. Next, we will force the German newspapers to stop writing about "Polish concentration camps"(sic) although it is unlikely they will say German instead of Nazi, but that is not an issue here. Given that many British schoolkids think Auschwitz was a beer brand or a theme park, and it is likely they will never read a history book in their life, it is important they undestand that these camps were German not Polish.

The persecution (of the Jews) took place on the basis of national-socialist racial dogmas: everyone who was not Arian, was shut out from society and hunted down. These people were isolated, arrested en killed in extermination camps. The same fate awaited those who tried to help them.

Stu, we've had this talk before, and I see you are still as ignorant on the subject as before.

Aiding Jews did not get you automatically killed along with your family in occupied Holland. There was no such law. Take a look at what happened to Miep Gies, Johannes Kleiman and Bep Voskuijl. Were they shot for aiding little Anne Frank? No.

On the morning of August 4, 1944, acting on information provided by an informant, the Grüne Polizei arrested the people hidden at Frank's place of business, as well as Victor Kugler and Johannes Kleiman.A few days later, Miep unsuccessfully tried to bribe the Austrian Nazi officer to release her friends.[12]

wiki

You read Dutch, find what German law said about aiding Jews. Unless you want to believe the fantasy you believe now.
1jola   
12 Mar 2011
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

I came to this forum to learn about my ancestral homeland

You've come to the wrong forum then. It is dominated and monitored by non-Poles who either spent a week here and are experts, live here for a couple of years and consider themselves authorities on everything Polish and dispense their wisdom freely, but the main theme is to insult everything Polish. There are a few happy and content foreigners here and you will know them by their fruit.

Do you have an opinion on the thread topic?
1jola   
12 Mar 2011
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Dolphi, who has not been to the US, has a zoological hatred for Polish-Americans, especially ones with incorrect political leanings. I hope yours are not conservative. If you are a flaky leftist, you will be OK in his book.
1jola   
12 Mar 2011
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Here is a listing of 700 Poles, some babies, shot for aiding Jews.

holocaustforgotten.com/list.htm

Show me something similar from Holland or France. You can't because there was no death penalty there for aiding Jews. You might find an isolated case though as Germans didn't always follow their own law.
1jola   
12 Mar 2011
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

All of the occupied countries and in the Reich itself.

So your proof is "I have no proof."

No you can't: there was no such law. There was an decree which applied only to part of Poland and only to people who helped certain Jews.

Certain Jews? I this a bad joke?

Here is the law:

Announcement

Regarding: death penalty for illegal leaving the Jewish residential district

Recently, in many documented instances, Jews, who have left the residential districts designated for them, have spread typhus. To safeguard the population against this dangerous threat, the General Governor has ordered that any Jew, who in the future illegally leaves the residential district designated for him, will be punished by death.

The same punishment will apply to whoever consciously shelters Jews mentioned above or in any other way assists them (for instance, by providing overnight accommodation, or sustenance, by giving a ride in any kind of vehicle, etc.)

The sentence will be imposed by the Special Court in Warsaw.

I explicitly draw the attention of the whole population of the Warsaw District to this new regulation since henceforth it will be applied with merciless severity.

Warsaw, 10 November 1941

(-) Dr Fischer Governor

Show me something similar from France, Belgium, or Holland, for that matter from Norway. Don't tell me it must be there because " I just know it."
1jola   
12 Mar 2011
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

How about Poles stop lying about Poland being the only place where there was the death penalty for helping Jews?

Which countries was it punishble by death for aiding Jews then? Please list the occupied countries and the coresponding penalty. The Dutch poster Stu believes it was in effect in Holland. You will straighten him out though, right?

I can post the German law if you like, but you know that it is a fact so there is no need. You need to post the German documents relating to other countries.
1jola   
12 Mar 2011
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Surprise, surprise.

It is you who needs to explain yourself not me. Again, what political motivation would we Poles and even some foreigners from completely different political leanings have in demanding historical accuracy in opinion influential world media? Meaning they need stop lying.
1jola   
12 Mar 2011
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Obviously you are not interested in this issue, it does not concern you, yet you keep on vomiting on this thread. I know it's lonely for a foreigner like you but find yourself a better hobby. Buy a bike or a skateboard. You are wasting your youth.