News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]

Merged: PiS is not a nationalistic conservative or Catholic party. Why would foreigners believe otherwise?

I'm often surprised by the way how a foreign press describe PiS. Conservative, nationalistic, Catholic are just but few overused words in such a description.

Would that be only a result of unsuccessful attempt at translating realities in Poland for foreign reader? Would that be rather a complete and utter failure on the part of an commenter to grasp a meaning of the political life in Poland.

On the other hand even foreigners living in Poland share to a great extant similar misinterpretation of the polish reality.
I wonder....would that be the language barrier or would that be a cultural thing.

News / Poland Parliamentary elections 2015 [1060]


Even less people voted for PO and yet you voiced no objections when that party has been in power for the last eight years.

News / Polish Minister of Agriculture stops foreign land-grab in Poland [24]


Are you dreaming? Polish framing methods are advanced, if anything it goes down to marketing and often than not foreigners sells to his home country as an ecological food. Those who are indeed farming and not speculating that is.

UK, Ireland / What are these ex tenants from Poland doing? Crammed into apartments - scams? [18]

Write a book about it.

UK, Ireland / What are these ex tenants from Poland doing? Crammed into apartments - scams? [18]

Who the hell knows and who cares? Return it all to the sender and notify them they no longer live at the address or dump it all to the bin.

Do you really think such a trifle warrant a topic on the PF?

News / Poland's political party to ban pornography? [60]


People like you are so lost at what is the norm and what acceptable and your type is so detached form reality and prone to hysteria, overreaction and going overboard if YOUR views do not take a lead that I'm tempted to say things like - burn all the pseudo- books, in your face you idiot.

When in fact a proper reaction to this kind of pseudo-intellectual hysteria is to treat you like a petulant child you are. You are being naughty Reggie, stop it or you wont get your pudding today.

Minister received info from the theater manager that the play in question involves sexual intercourse on scene hence his recommendation.
I think it is right decision as that theater is financed by the taxpayer money.
Minister has been acting according to the will of his electorate and they expected such a decision form him, it is also his prerogative hence there is noting wrong with that.

Those who think that something or other should be pushing boundaries should also remember they as well as everybody will be soon pushing daisies and there is nothing in sexual matters than can be invented. It was all tried and dropped like a hot coal. Humanity moved forward with Christianity and higher moral values and now some ignoramuses try to push back the clock in the guise of a modern and liberal cloak.

Dudes you are just an old chip of the even older block, there is nothing new under the sun contrary to your delusions.

News / Polish Minister of Agriculture stops foreign land-grab in Poland [24]


My my aren't you off-topic by definition? Maybe derailed would be a more accurate description.

News / Polish Minister of Agriculture stops foreign land-grab in Poland [24]

It is a good news and I support it even though I personally stand to loose on those regulations.

News / Kaczyński slams "political correctness" plague in Poland [85]


You are clueless. I wonder are you really that ignorant or are you simply waffling on purpose?

Mixing politicks, average awareness of the public about history just to get across your biased views.


Well, go on why don't you do it insisted of sitting at home whinging about others and history.

What you are berating PiS for is an attempt at building Polish historical narrative as many countries in the world do. Nothing wrong with that.


Sure, like stop to investigate Jedwabne and giving in to some idiots, you got a point here. However it was fault of the politician called LK.


it is a rather complex question to ask for an average person. Do you know? I highly doubt it H.


Some do some don't, many do not care a pretty standard approach. Why your chip on your shoulder should be of any interest to others? So far you are only crying like a little girl.

Question of whom dislike whom is a non issue really unless you could be more specific.

News / Poland to be Booted from Schengen - a Border Security Issue or Tusk's Revenge on Polish Voters for PO Defeat? [36]


Bah!


Exactly!
Time to take Polish national interests seriously and stop listening to all that PC jabbering. Those "core" EU countries have noting of note to offer for Poland, that Poland wouldn't get otherwise and cheaper.

News / Turkish invasion on Polish TV - Poland's opinion on Turkey [30]


Would kindly restrain yourself form making ignorant remarks about thing you know nothing about. Thank you.

Well, good for Turkey. Poland should make such a nice and well made stories as well.

News / Poland to be Booted from Schengen - a Border Security Issue or Tusk's Revenge on Polish Voters for PO Defeat? [36]

A very good idea. A first step in getting out of the EU.

News / Letter from the UN to Poland to Promote Abortions and End Traditional Family [37]

Time to dissolve that stupid UN prats, instead of helping those in need they promote some insane ideologies.
Give them finger!

UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]


Just let him be, hes either a kid or some troll with issues. If likes to talk blow let him.

News / Most Poles believe current Sejm (Parliament) in Poland will be better [64]


You must be listening to some morons, as the above is incorrect.


I wonder sometimes wheatear or not people are able to come to the conclusion on their own without repeating what media are selling.
Do you really believe that in today world and with the way modern democracies are working people in charge are a charismatics leaders and absolute rules.

Mostly those in charge and those in politics are just a smooth salesman who have circles of friends, those who supports them in return for future favors.

Not to mention external influences by different factors sometimes directly and something by lobbyist and whatnot.
In the present circumstances it doesn't maters in the slightest whenever or not Duda obeys orders form K or he is his junior partner or what are links and circumstances between people in the ruling party as what matters is an answer to the question - will they deliver?

Will they be able to provide good and successful government for the Polish people? If they are working as a team or as a monarchy doesn't really matter to the Polish populous at large. It matters to those whose interest are being threatened.

Problems and issues and proposed solutions should be the main focus of editorials and media people. Should be, but for so long those people were permeated by the system which had been promoting those who are good only in arousing passions using primitive propaganda (for one or other) as well as dilettantes who know nothing about economy, politics and whatnot. Naturally those ignoramuses are focusing on general subjects ( gossip ) where they can swim safe without fear of being exposed.

It is very shallow approach which doesn't really help people in understanding politics.


He is better educated, have more class and general polish than all those that come before him all together, It is defiantly a step up in that regard.

News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]


No taxes paid, low paid jobs, squeezing for all its worth their suppliers in Poland to the point of extortion.
When PiS says those functions of the state aimed at protecting people against ill practices to and to ensure a fair play - the usual suspects and their lobbyist starts ruckus which is being picked up by some ignorant people whose only real issue with PiS is the fact they do not pay a lip service to progressives taboos and that gender BS.


You have spend too much time in Poland need I remind you that reducing your argument ad absurdum is a logical fallacy. I'm sure that demanding of those firms to adhere to some basic standards and to pay their dues are in fact not unreasonable expectations.

News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]


According to someone I knew who was a specialist and one of those behind the curtain advisers who where behind reform of the education in Poland. His ideas being perverted and in short Fekked up by lobbyist and dilettantes.


Yeah twerps are afraid of losing their job.


You think? I don't know I would rather give them benefit of the doubt. Maybe they will stop those billions of profits shipped out o the country without even being taxed properly.


Fix what is broken and kick some assed out. Structure and organization is the key.


Hmm I haven't see millions of French begging on the streets or sorting bins for some scraps.


I'm talking about Biedronka, Lidel and such.

News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]


I have no info on that so I'm not going to comment.


It is a very good idea as clearly those don't work well.


Reclaim taxes from big foreign firms, and all those firms which have been avoiding paying taxes in Poland.


You are making it all up as you go Doug. Never heard about that.


Yeah, don't understand that either.


It is a strategically important industry for Poland. For the next 20 to 30 years at least, and industry is not dying is being mismanaged to put it mildly.

No more socialist than in France for example, I didn't say their policy is liberal but I disagree with you lot calling their economic policy some hick up of the communist past or whatnot or extremely socialist. I think that you foreigners in Poland are repeating what some Poles say and to be honest they know squat.

According to the Adam Smith's ideas all modern countries are socialist.

News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]


Considering that SLD is so left as to privatize profits and nationalize costs it doesn't tell you much.


That is a nonsense.


Sure, it means just that to the majority of people, consequently whoever call himself (bar SLD) left in Poland you can bet your used socks they are very radical left - commies. Labors are not very socialist when it comes to encomia,PiS is dealing with different problems than other countries. In comparison to Poland when in come to social security issues and state interventionism most western countries look like a hub of a nanny state in a full flow.

Polonia / What About The Poles In The Netherlands? [102]


The fact your Polish sucks for example.

News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]


Yes PO that is guilty of so many transgressions against the sprit of the law and corruption that I lost the count, more than you have hairs on your head.


I don't see his condemnation, never mind. I don't have to condone or condemn anything because I'm not PiS constituency and I didn't vote them, I'm glad they have majority and I'm waiting to see what they are going to do with it.


Hmm voters or forces behind the curtains?

Constitution sucks.


They are not hard left economically. Not at all.
Social policy? I gather you mean progressiveness like in gays privileges and gender nonsense? They would be center-right according to western standards but in Poland they are simply better reflecting opinions of the majority of Poles on those issues. In Poland they are firmly in the center, they might claim their are right but most parties in Poland claim to be that, even PO because left for many means communism.

PO was mostly based on opportunists without spine or morals and they were seemly copying what give them support from the western media and some western circles but their standing wasn't based on convictions, if burning on stake of gays would became a fashion again in western countries they wouldn't have bated an eye, it would be those PiS people you are bashing who would not stand for it.


Means they are reflecting ideas and views of majority of an average Pole. They are not radical in any way, if anything their are very timid in articulating Polish interests and rather soft in applying policies Polish national interest demands.

The suck up to the USA and Israel. That can't be good, mind you still better than PO a puppet of Germany and France.


In Poland left do not sits well with majority of voters and centrist do no apply to people who are being swayed by emotions in their political choices, hence PiS and PO like a many other parties in Poland claim to be right.


Which country left do you compare PiS to? France? Britain? The difference lays in the pudding. What do you mean by economics?


Yeah because Polish society is more "right" when you are talking about sex, gender related issues and also because those are problems of the rich society.

Polonia / What About The Poles In The Netherlands? [102]


Fact is you are not Polish, so I though you are talking about people you belong to i.e. a group of creatures that traditionally dwell under bridges and other structures providing shade and water.

Polonia / What About The Poles In The Netherlands? [102]


Who is we?

Polonia / What About The Poles In The Netherlands? [102]


Maybe because they don't want to work if they can be supported by other people with blessing of Bolsheviks like yourself, the one who always is ready to bend backwoods to find or invent excuses for Blacks and Muslims, just because their are Black and Muslims. Your place is in the circus with all that gymnastic you practise just to stay in line with your ideological bias.

Reality is knocking at your door. We all know you can't hear it.

News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]


Let make it clear PiS in fact is a centrist party and always has been.


Nonsense Delph they are doing what they are doing in the best tradition of the last 25 years and PO standards.

The thing anyone is better than PO and voters have spoken.

Life / Do Polish people like Turkish people? [66]


Poles respect Turks and have nothing against them.

News / PKP buys Alstrom Pendolino trains for € 665 million [60]


If you put things like that an answer is obvious - 500 zl per child.

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Food / Do Polish restaurants use dead dogs fat as a delicacy for you to eat? [41]


Are you vegetarian? If not grow up.

News / Warsaw's silent march in support of 5th Commandment - Thou shalt not kill [75]


I don't understand what is a point of that march? It will change nothing, influence no one, maybe those show partaken in this event are going to feel better about themselves.

History / How come Polonization never works? [87]

Nope, you so far are talking no sense.