News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


Not only. The EU promotes the movement of people and goods within the bloc so they came on their own. What the British did was made it easier for Poles to get a job when other countries didn't have as favorable labor conditions. It's because they wanted high quality cheap labor. Far more Poles, Romanians, Lithuanians, etc came after 2004 than before.


The opposite is happening. Those currently living within Britain that aren't citizens are worried about their status. Many Poles have already left - Polish international moving companies are extremely busy moving Polish families from UK back to PL. Plus, many people from Poles and Romanians to students from India are not more weary of moving to the UK because of Brexit and fear that they'll be asked to leave soon after arriving.


Not true at all. Poland was one of 8 countries to join EU at the same time. Germany helped, and also invested a lot of money into Poland even as early as the 90's. However, we along with the other Baltic states, would've became part of the EU with or without much German help. To say that Germany was directly responsible for Poland's ascension into the EU and Poland wouldn't of joined the bloc without Germany is an exaggeration.

theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/25/surge-in-poles-leaving-uk-since-brexit-vote-fuels-net-migration-drop
thesun.co.uk/news/3068281/polands-cities-are-thriving-again-as-thousands-return-home-since-brexit-after-we-found-deserted-streets-four-years-ago


A lot of them don't want to work. Walk through Tower Hamlets in the middle of the afternoon on a Monday or other business day and you'll see tons of guys and black clad ninjas walking about aimlessly, chatting and shopping at the stalls, pushing 2 child strollers followed by a few more slightly older kids who can already walk, and loitering about. Its clear they are in no rush to get back to any sort of job. Its the same in Germany with the recent migrants. They sit at their camps all day or walk around on the streets and complain that the internet is slow. When the governments are paying more money to the migrants than they'd ever make back home of course they won't want to get off of it. Even if you gave them a low skill low pay job that's a tad higher than the benefits they'd still rather chose the benefits since they can do whatever they want during the day. This is why citizens of so many countries are furious. There have been many reports of even old people being forced to leave their apartments because the government bought it out and is turning it into migrant housing - especially in Germany. The Swedish government is hosting migrants on a freakin cruise ship that the tax payers are paying to lease out. The Germans bought a 4 star hotel to house migrants and promptly fired all the hotel workers at a moment's notice. They don't pay for sh!t and have no plans to work. If they cut their welfare payments they'd all either get a job or leave.

There divide between the countries east of Germany and those west of Germany is deepening everyday. If Germany, Brussels, etc wants to fix the EU and not have it collapse, they need to give the states more sovereignty in their home affairs and not meddle in their local affairs. This is why Austria, Poland, Hungary, Czechy, Slovakia, Bulgaria, are saying no more. They don't want to leave the EU, but they're not going to allow Brussels to tell them what to do and what not to do within their sovereign borders. Poles view the EU as a promotion of European economies, promotion of trade within the bloc, ability to immigrate to a wealthier EU country, and so on.

News / US Investor seeks 700 million dollars in damages from Poland [45]

@DominicB

Yeah pretty much... Unless they want to buy gas from Russia... it seems though they prefer importing more expensive US gas and oil than giving the money to Russia though lol

News / US Investor seeks 700 million dollars in damages from Poland [45]

If there's only one or several, yes. If you drive by a massive wind farm (like the one with around 100-150+ wind turbines on a plain not too far from me), you can hear it all the time when they're active. It's like a weird humming. Idk about you, but I wouldn't want a humming and swooshing at the sound level of a 'normal conversation' in my bedroom when I have precious few hours before I need to wake up the next day.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


The forced migration of Poland which the EU wants to enact is a separate issue - little to nothing to do with the UK. Nonetheless, we have seen immigration in general as a point of contention within the EU and Europe - including in Austria. The fact that UK chose to accept EU migrants, which included Poles, was because of the EU allowing movement of people and goods throughout the continent. Prior to that, as well as into 2004 to the present, yes UK accepted many people from Commonwealth countries. Much of the people they took in post 2004 though included Poles and Romanians, as well as other Eastern Europeans. The Poles I believe are actually the largest EU group inside England. The British weren't too happy with the sudden flood of people from Europe, not to mention all the other people who have come since 2010 due to migration movement from Africa and ME as well as those trafficked from the tip of France into the UK. Some Brits like the high skill low wage Eastern Europeans, others do not. The attitude has been a bit more favorable than towards Muslims because Poles generally integrate a bit better since it is afterall Europe and many learned English in schools. Nonetheless, the general issues associated with massive migration, along with economic and political factors influencing the UK, reams of EU laws, etc are why so many Brits chose 'leave' in the referendum.


Of course most aren't. It only takes 1% - and when you're taking in 100k's, 1 mil's etc that 1% becomes larger and larger. Ireland is smart to vet people, unfortunately Germany, France, etc didn't do such a good job of vetting. ISIS clearly said that they're going to infiltrate Europe via refugees/migrants... Based on all the attacks and the fact that their capital of Raqqa and now Deirezour is crumbling, we need to be more careful than ever.

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True. Russia actually is more restrained in some cases than US - not always, but some. Nonetheless, US troops stationed in Poland, Lithuania, Romania, etc are far more of a deterrent to Putin than German troops - or even native Polish/Lithuanian/Romanian ones.


At best a C&C center away from front lines. However, it's too far from the borderlands. Germany really should focus more on deploying its troops inside the country to control the terror attacks and protect the borders, even patrol no-go high crime areas.

independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-nato-border-forces-map-where-are-they-positioned-a7562391.html

At least the Germans still use the Iron Cross as their insignia. Quite frankly, I'm surprised the SJW's and Co haven't made a fuss about that.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

@Atch

Of course. No one ever said they can't. However, very few Lithuanian, Bulgarian, and Romanians among others with the exception of Ukranians for the most part (which isn't even an EU nation and just recently received visa free) come to Poland because of our low wages, nonexistent welfare system, and far better opportunities westward.

If Germany makes the million people they took in EU citizens than of course Poland can't stop them from coming in. Poland has little to offer these people and they know that. However, Germany isn't sending its fine EU citizens who have been in Europe for years to our borders. They're trying to force people that have come in the past year or two or so and are stuck in some camp in Greece, Italy, or are sleeping out on the streets or wherever into our borders. We have no clue who these people are, how they will integrate, what skills they have, etc. In most cases we don't even know what their age even is. Time and time again there's been reports of 30 and 40 year old looking dude claiming they 16, 17, etc.

News / US Investor seeks 700 million dollars in damages from Poland [45]


No shyt, but that doesn't change the fact an investor has to put up $1-$4 million per turbine (1-2 for 1mwh, 2-4 for 2mwh). Not to mention their noisy asf and destroy property values of the local community. Poland doesn't really have high winds.

The reported per kwh cost doesn't take into account tax payer funded subsidies and other secondary costs as well

Depending on which factors are included, estimates for the cost of wind power vary wildly. Lazard claims the cost of wind power ranges from $37 to $81 per megawatt-hour, while Michael Giberson at the Center for Energy Commerce at Texas Tech University suggests it's closer to $149. Our analysis in an upcoming report explores this wide gap in cost estimates, finding that most studies underestimate the genuine cost of wind because they overlook key factors.

All estimates for wind power include the cost of purchasing capital and paying for operations and maintenance (O&M) of wind turbines. For the studies we examined, capital costs ranged from $48 to $88 per megawatt-hour, while O&M costs ranged from $9.8 to $21 per megawatt-hour.

Many estimates, however, don't include costs related to the inherent unreliability of wind power and government subsidies and mandates. Since we can't ensure the wind always blows, or how strongly, coal and natural gas plants must be kept on as backup to compensate when it's calm. This is known as baseload cycling, and its cost ranges from $2 to $23 per megawatt-hour.... The best estimate available for the total cost of wind power is $149 per megawatt-hour, taken from Giberson's 2013 report.

newsweek.com/whats-true-cost-wind-power-321480

Poland isn't a very windy country... I don't think wind turbines would be an effective answer. Solar maybe even more so...

Then again, idk, I'm not an expert in this industry... Some pro-clean sources claim wind is far cheaper, some pro-coal ones claim the opposite, neutral sources seem to be all over the place.. According to forbes though, wind is only slightly more expensive than coal with nuclear and hydro the cheapest.

forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2012/06/15/the-naked-cost-of-energy-stripping-away-financing-and-subsidies/#7b3127d95b88

But again this is going by US - different situation in other countries...

Most of Poland's energy comes from coal still from what I understand, mainly due to the strength of the lobby, large amount of people employed in this business, and the coal deposits.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

That was their choice. We Poles are choosing not to take in forced migrants - we instead will take in Ukrainians, Chinese, Indians, and any one else with money and ability to assimilate, add to the society etc. of our own choosing.

The people scamming the benefits system in UK are mostly Romanians, Poles (main two groups), followed by Lithuanians, Bulgarians, etc. not the guys who came from Jamaica, Nigeria, Pakistan, etc. Those guys perhaps in a way, but with Romanians and Poles way more so. They'd send hella people from villages to register in UK, take out benefits in their name, then go back home to PL. Sometimes they'd get a cut, sometimes not.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

It may need exports/imports from Europe which it will continue to receive. It does not need the books of diktats on how to wipe your butt after a deuce. There is 400 different EU rules on how a toothbrush is suppose to be made... A freaken toothbrush.. That is what it doesn't need, neither does it need Spanish ships fishing in its waters, nor all the migrants they were him obliged to take which ended up scamming the benefits system - poles included. We poles joke that upon retirement well just go on benefits in UK.

Things have changed. Britain same as Austria Poland and Hungary want less and less to do with eu political influence in their own countries. That's why Britain left. Again their sovereign vote and decision to leave pointless arguing over spilled milk.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

@cms

That was the right move at the time and remains so for every passing government

If you didn't want guys who kill gays and fund or are terrorists and their tens of billions of dollars in your banks and huge orders for weapons and other projects just say no then

Tell the Saudis no we Brits don't want your money. Tell the labor not to sell weapons used to bomb goat herders.

In the EU case Brits didn't NEED Europe, Europe needed the brits. They have way more control over how they run their economy and small businesses, industry, etc. Times are a bit different now than the 90 2000s etc. Norway n Switzerland aren't EU either n they're doing just fine too. and the trade agreement was far from perfect. There's no sense in talking about it anyway it was the will of the peoples country and it passed. Just like as in Iran the people wanted an Islamic republic or Jesus being crowned king of Poland, or Austria and central/east EU being more eurosceptic now too.

The police can't even keep up in western Europe esp France. Street cops arenr even strapped in uk. Lol ask a ***** if he would pull over or not try to flee on foot knowing the cop who's fuvking w him n trying to pull him over. Thankfully england isn't too bad off with the crime but its still bad in some parts.

And ya those Cobblestones are a ***** for stiff suspensions and low pro tires

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

Employment living standards housing are migrant problems. The migrant areas have 30% unemployment. The blocks are crumbling. Housing is expensive.

London is old money. They will b fine lol believe me. This is a brief temporary shock maybe up to 5 years after and they'll start growing again. The economy goes in peaks and vallies. They'll still be far wealthier than most other EU countries. They get to take back their market yet still export British goods of which there are many. Either way Brits voted to leave so it.makes lil difference just hopefully they can stop the bs and just sign a few trade deals w whoever wants to with them (of which there will be many countries including even Poland us saudi Kuwaiti etc money) London is like a NYC and UK like a mini us with a euro flavor. They'll be fine

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


Its because its the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE which will have lasting impacts for decades to come. We are at a major crossroads here. The migrants (along with their kids) are the ones causing all the rapes, terror attacks, driving vans into crowds, living off welfare, causing a 2 year state of emergency in France, groping hundreds if not thousands of women in Germany, causing the Sweden rape stats to skyrocket by thousands of percent within a span of a few short years,


What a person says and what they do are often two different things.... we can see clearly that Merkel welcomed economic migrants, not just refugees, from all over the Middle East and Africa - not just places like Eritrea, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.

Merkel speech: Refugees must be helped whether we want to or not... 'Whoever wants to come here for economic reasons, (you can, but) you cannot stay long term

youtube.com/watch?v=6VdzvY4vlAw

It was first supposed to be refugees - but then as we all know the words refugee and migrant became totally interchangeable. A real refugee doesn't care what country he or she goes to - as long as its safe. Hence, why Poles walked ON FOOT from Siberia to Iran. Those are real refugees. The Royingha fleeing Myanmar to go to Bangladesh are refugees. The young men froming from all over Africa and middle east, most of whom are coming from countries where there is no war, but plenty of poverty, are not refugees but economic migrants. They chose Germany specifically because of the welfare system. It is more money than they'd ever make back home. When Denmark cut welfare benefits to migrants thousands of them immediately left. A real refugee would not have - they would be happy to be in a safe civilized country and not care what the welfare is.

Other cool vids:
Pegida On Rise As Germany Divided Over Refugees - from 2015 (oh how much the far right has grown, those people in this 2015 video could've never predicted AfD's fantastic success)

youtube.com/watch?v=pXD0PGHFTVA

'Get Out!' Merkel booed at protest while attending German Unity Day ceremony
youtube.com/watch?v=2kpnv8Y1Yxg

Does Islam belong in Germany? 61% say NO! Merkel warns nationalism returning to Germany
youtube.com/watch?v=8NhG5KDdzVI

Austria has woken up too. There's a rid pill for everyone.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

@cms

They will be better off in the long term. Naturally such a referendum scares investors and the markets. They will recover and be subject to less rules, at home competition, being more picky on who to let in, etc. London is going to remain one of the two capitals of the financial world they'll be fine lol belive me

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

@cms

Oh yes they did. Merkel clearly said shed take anyone who made it to Germany.

Everyone in UK knew there'd be immediate economic downtown with brexit. They will nonetheless recover and no longer by subject to all of EU's diktats. As long as they end up actually leaving and not pussyfoot around for years.

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Why? It's a benchmark. Poland has exceeded 2% without anyone forcing it too.


ROFL!!!!! Yeah because France and England, both the signers of the Budapest Moratorium on Ukraine REALLY stopped Russian aggression in 2014 lol. They did NOTHING and you're talking about them standing up to Russia if they invade the Baltics? Please... They were too scared to even send Ukrainians lethal aid for fear of poking the Russian Bear. Meanwhile, Poles, Brits, some Americans, Croats and everyday local Ukrainians scraped up what they could and formed self defense battalions and beat back the Russians - especially at Mariupol. The irregulars were more effective than the actual Ukrainian army.

PLEASE, Poland and the Baltics have no faith that France, UK, or Germany would ever help out in the event of a Russian invasion. The only party we trust to help us, and not even completely, would be the US. Ask any Pole and they'll tell you the same damn thing - especially those in the military. The Germans, French, etc would pull out immediately, send their troops back home, and tell Russia and Poland to negotiate and Poland to cede any lost territory. The Americans, at least under Trump, I do believe would have the balls to stand up and fight against Putin. Still, we've learned our lesson in WW2 and the Cold War - Poland can only count on itself for defense ultimately. This is why we're expanding our military like never before and even incorporating over 100k paramilitaries and 'weekend warrior' types into the national guard and territorial defense - something that we took a page out of from the Ukrainian military doctrine.

Work / Career in Poland - working in finance / investment banking / venture capital / private equity [19]


Absolutely. That's why I chose a very specific career path. When I was in college I was looking at various jobs that people with various business bachelor's majors get - like whether its accounting, finance, pr, marketing, hr, etc. I saw that jobs like PR, HR, communications, marketing, etc. tend to be pretty low paid, as little as 30k a year, more commonly low 40's, maybe up to 50k if your lucky. The finance and accounting majors were a bit higher with high 40's, low 50's, even some up to 60 if they got into a good company and live in a city with a high cost of living hence generally higher salaries. The management, economics, international biz lied somewhere in the middle with most making 40-50k upon graduation. I chose to do b2b sales (and further found my niche in tech sales and sales consulting for firms selling b2b products) because it offered me the same salary of 40-50k BUT I would get commission on top of that making it far exceed any other job I could potentially obtain with just a bachelor's. The people who tend to get the really high salaries right out of college often chose a science like engineering, chemistry, biology, physics, etc and can easily find a job making $50k to even as high as $70-$80k right out of school esp for chem majors which are in huge demand.

The thing is though while the money for those blue collar type jobs can be excellent if you have an entrepreneurial spirit, they are nonetheless hard and dirty jobs. I've been helping out with my dad's company ever since I was a preteen. All the time you have to watch out so you don't get a nail through your foot, fall off a roof (which one of my dads subcontractors just did like a month or two ago and broke a bunch of ribs), cut your finger with a saw when cutting really small pieces of wood or tile, not to mention the chemicals, lead, asbestos, and all sorts of other stuff. Almost every single product used for construction from like spray foam to regular pink insulation to

There's a few ways I think the average person can become financially successful. The first is as we discussed - find your niche, start a small business, work 50-60 hour weeks, make it successful, etc. The second is to invest your money. Even if you're a mid/high level corporate worker making say $120, $140k a year 40% is taken out. Hence, leaving you with say $60k cash out of a $100k salary, $72k cash out of $120k salary (48k taken out in taxes), etc. That's really not all that much money - if you're single its not bad and you can afford certain luxuries - but its certainly not 'phuck you money' as I like to call it. Meaning 'phuck you boss' 'phuck you car payment' 'phuck you kids' college tuition' - you don't have to worry about any of those because you have more than enough to cover them all. BUT, if you invest a good portion of that $50 $60 $70k salary - say $10-$15-$20k a year, every year - you can certainly pile up your money till you have enough to have 'phuck you' money. It doesn't even have to be all that much but putting money aside regularly - its more about investing it wise. I bought $10k worth of bitcoin a few months back like around July. It was $2,300 when I bought meaning I had like 4 bitcoins. I sold them on Monday for $5,200 a piece making almost $12k return within 3 months. I basically more than doubled my money. Of course most trades aren't that spectacular you can still make significant money investing in real estate, stocks, commodities, etc IF you know what you're doing. Also, the tax for capital gains for long term investments is FAR FAR LOWER than income taxes for a high salary.

The third way, which I think is the hardest, is to get an education all the way to graduate level, make tons of contacts, perform wonderfully at a company, gradually climb the ladder, and IF you're really good you may become a vice president, c level exec, director, etc making $200, $300k or more. Generally, the CEO positions making millions of dollars a year are going to be extremely difficult for even an excellent, very highly educated employee. However, reaching a position of say Vice President, the position of the boss I reported to my last job, is entirely realistic. He earns like $250-$300k. Nonetheless, that still isn't really 'phuck you money' since it wouldn't be enough to retire, pay off the mortgage, and live off of. Nonetheless, it definitely gives you more capital to invest with or start a small business with.

News / US Investor seeks 700 million dollars in damages from Poland [45]

They cost $1-$4 mil per turbine.. that's why

News / Poland - Ukraine. Młodzież Wszechpolska against Ukrainians. [180]

@Crnogorac3

Cool bro you found a pic on google images. Everyone in Ukraine knows they do that for shock value. As long as they're protecting their borders IDC if they're flying a rainbow flag. Quite frankly Slavs shouldn't be fighting Slavs in the first place but Putin and his fellow Russians couldn't suppress their russkiy okupant mindset and just HAD to invade. He even used the same line Hitler used when invading the Sudetenland - to protect native Germans or in thus case Russians.

Besides the swastika is a far far older symbol and has been used by nearly every culture including mesoamerica, Hindus, and even Jews. The black sun the Nazis used was originally a Slavic occult symbol as well.

News / Poland - Ukraine. Młodzież Wszechpolska against Ukrainians. [180]

@Crnogorac3

The Prince is one of my all time favorite works. The Prince is to politics as The Art of War is to military conflict - and increasingly corporate applications. You also have to realize the context in which The Prince was written in. The situation is actually kind of similar to what's happening in the Balkans, southern Europe, E Europe in a way...

Just because a guy has a sort of wolgsangel emblem doesn't make him a Nazi. If you know about these parties they are nationalists - not fascist Nazis...

Regardless, Hail Azov!!! Slawa Ukraina!!!

Ally McBeal is also a fine piece of ass. that was like my 8th grade crush lol

Work / Offer of 12k zloty enough in Warsaw? [10]

That is a good salary for a couple. You will be able to afford a nice large apartment, certain luxuries, etc and even save a little money without a problem.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


And hated by Germans and probably Europeans at large - especially in Central and Eastern Europe as well as in UK by many people - for allowing a flood of radical violent young men who commit massacres, bombings, van attacks every few weeks, and rapes, assaults, etc. daily. She'll also be remembered for caring less about residents and citizens of Germany who lives there for years, decades, generations, and more for people who only came to reap the welfare benefits. A real refugee doesn't care where he or she goes - as long as it's safe. This is why Poles walked on foot to Iran to escape USSR's persecution and some even live there to this day. These migrants came to Germany because the government will pay for them, their 8 kids, provide food, schooling, housing, and might even send a government worker to wash their butts too - since toilet paper wouldn't be P.C. As soon as Denmark cut the welfare payments, surprise surprise - half the migrants left immediately.

Hence AfD's success in the recent elections. This is just the beginning. She needs to retire ASAP.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


Except perhaps Poland - where the 30k some Tatars fought and died for Poland since the Commonwealth - even against the Turkish invades they sided with Poland rather than be a 5th column. They look Polish, speak Polish, act Polish in all manners except they go to a mosque instead of a church.


You don't find it at all hypocritical that Israel has a secret nuclear weapons program, and has had such a program for decades, which has NEVER been inspected by the UN, IAEA, or any relevant agency? Meanwhile, Iran who has complied with the nuke Obama deal and has had more IAEA inspections than any other nuclear power and found to be mostly compliant is constantly chastised for their program?

Work / Relocate to Lodz Poland [30]

2500 is what you will pay just to rent the most basic apartment let alone have anything left over for food, transport, savings, gas, bills, a car, etc... that's like $700 or so a month... not worth it - no freakin way esp not in lodz

News / US Investor seeks 700 million dollars in damages from Poland [45]


It could be but more means 'smarta$$es' as 'cwany' means like wise, smart, etc.


Its a sort of strange system between business persons and courts to allow for local Poles to screw over foreigners IF it is in the interests of Poland, the court doesn't care, etc. That is why so many foreigners who come to establish businesses, buy real estate, etc. get screwed over. Most of the time it's not due to like mismanagement on their own part, just more so that they got screwed over by some Polish real estate agent, title company, lawyer, etc and the courts don't care much to enforce it. Now if it's a multi million/billion dollar contract, an enormous factory or office, etc. then the PL government will bend over backwards to give them tax breaks and other incentives in return for the tax money and employment such an operation would provide - for example the JP Chase office in Warsaw which will employ 3k, the Mercedes factory outside of Wroclaw, the LG factory which will open in 2 years. The LG factory is actually to develop electric batteries for cars and other components so definitely green energy. It's just in this particular case with the above investors it appears that they've had problems for a long time and lawsuits on both ends for years and years. In that case perhaps it wasn't worth it for the courts to side with the plaintiff and would side with the Polish defendant regardless if they were in the wrong. It just depends - each case is different. Normally though in most like small-mid sized business transactions if you get screwed over by a Polish dude or party, your chances of recuperating and enforcing a contract are pretty slim to none. You'll either get drowned in the bureaucracy, be forced to pay a bribe so the prosecutor/judge does the job they're suppose to do, etc. This is a bit of a generalization of course but I've seen (and even experienced) this kind of stuff myself. The courts and legal system could definitely use reform.

This will scare a lot of smaller/mid investors and such, but large multinational corporations with years of experience and teams of individuals who can navigate through the individual nuances of each country and market can certainly do it in Poland and that's why the big name companies are flooding in. But the smaller/mid companies from abroad, which small biz is the economic engine of nearly all developed economies, are weary about Poland - of course depending on their operation, what business and industry they'r ein, etc.

But ya if youre a foreigner and want to open a restaurant, develop properties, etc chances are youll be left high and dry.

News / US Investor seeks 700 million dollars in damages from Poland [45]


They do - this just happens to be one particular case that didn't work out. Another one was Poland's purchase of French helicopters and military hardware but they went with the superior American tech. Of course the French complained. These guys have been duking it out in courts, messing with lawsuits and all sorts of sh!t for over 7 years. This is just one of many disagreements between this particular US company and their counterparts in Poland.

Poland's law and bureaucracy is messy. It's no wonder a Chicago based company with little experience and knowledge of operating in the Polish market got hosed. They're dealing with cwaniaczki afterall...

News / US Investor seeks 700 million dollars in damages from Poland [45]

@Atch

Everyone knows that the people who write the laws and the politicians are the biggest breakers of it. Just look at Clinton. Nothing new here. It seems these two have quite a history spanning years of lawsuits with pis and po. Yawn

No problem there's plenty of other companies more than happy to add to the FDI totals

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


Not with Iraq... and in Afghanistan there's around 5k... almost all of whom operate in the safety of northern Afghanistan hence have far less casualties than the Brits and Yanks there. That's the least Germany can do after being given billions to rebuild from the ground up thanks to AMERICA and FDR. Germans are very smart and industrious though so they deserve a healthy economy as they ran their country well in that regard. Politically - esp with the current situation with the migrants - I beg to differ. Germany also gave a lot of hardware, including hundreds of millions of dollars of nuke capable submarines to Israel. They even provided technical instruments along with France like centrifuges. Trump called you guys out for being cheapskates on your NATO defense commitment - like many other NATO nations. On the other hand, Poland, Greece, and a few others were recognized and complemented for their fair financial contribution. Since Trump took office, money from the NATO countries, especially from Germany came pouring in. Its like that cheap friend when you get a pizza for 3 people for $20 bucks plus a tip and your buddy only puts in a $5.

Where Germans don't rule militarily in NATO and EU, they definitely do politically and economically. That's why Britain left. They were sick of taking orders from the Germans and Brussels who have favored Germany and her politicians for a long long time. You'd be blind not to see that. Of course there's MEP from all over, but nonetheless the top figures tend to lean towards Germany and Merkel.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


Nazi = National Socialist. It is technically a leftist ideology. It was a nationalistic form of socialism.


You realize that polls from places like Egypt, Morrocco, Tunisia, Afghanistan, etc show that a significant portion of the population believe that insulting islam should result in death, believe in sharia law, believe in separation of man and woman, are deeply anti-Semitic, and spit on your liberal ideals of being LGBT friendly, tolerant (overly tolerant), pro-feminist, free speech (which ironically is being limited more and more specifically as it pertains to criticizing migrants)


And when exactly is the next round of voting for the president of the EU? Jean Claude Junk is one such example of an unelected commissar.

Is 'The Economist' too pro-Brexit (the best decision the Brits ever made in recent history) for you also?


The Germans who allowed their society and culture to be turned into a peaceful, welcoming society into one fraught with seas of ninja women, crowds of unemployed men near subways, trails of trash and tents wherever they go, innumerable incidents of rape and abuse against women, dozens of terror attacks involving dozens dead and injured (even over a hundred in Paris) - yes those are the cuck wimps I'm referring to. stand up for your women - they're the fairer sex! don't let some ******* grope a woman if she doesn't want and keeps telling him to stop yet he and his buddies continue. you see that and you kick his ass till kingdom come. that's what the poles did when some arabs got too frisky with polish girls on the beach in Gdansk... Thankfully some Germans understand this lunacy and how their culture is being destroyed via multiculturalism - at least this ridiculous socialist form of it. A Harvard professor conducted a decade long study on multiculturalism and you what the conclusion was? It is NOT GOOD. Forced multiculturalism doesn't work and is detrimental to a society.

At least there's hope with the recent underdog AfD's success in the last election. There are fine men and women who aren't naïve to what's going on in W Europe and aren't buying these bogus 'cultural enrichment' programs anymore. If these migrants and all were supposed to 'enrich' European countries, why are the Germans, French, etc so upset at the V4, Austria, Bulgaria, etc for not taking in their share of the 'burden.' These migrants that are coming in aren't enriching the country - they are a burden. Yes there's some wonderful peaceful people - I don't doubt that. But when you say come one come all you're going to get the dregs of society along with normal families. And no one willt ell me that the vast majority of these migrants aren't young low skill uneducated males from the 3rd world.


You mean like NATO?


That happens all over the world. Selling military hardware, training forces, etc is a business and political decision - in some cases more business, in others more political. Poland sells military hardware to freaken Malaysia. Yet Malaysia and Poland aren't like trying to take over the Phillipines or some ****. Poland buys German Leapord tanks too.

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I would be highly suspect of such a policy. NATO is overall a good organization. The thought of having numerous armies under Germany's command scares me. Esepcially as they switched national socialism to a quasi modern socialism and are eager to spread their ideology - especially politically via brussels and that often leads to force... The Germans already control an army of unelected EU commissars, EC court officials, numerous EU deputies, etc. It would be like a Yugoslavia/USSR sort of deal with Germany being Serbia/Russia and forcing others to accept their ideology and political control with any smaller state who doesn't agree being attacked to maintain territorial and political integrity.

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How strange is it that despite taking in a million unskilled migrants, Germany has a labor shortage. Meanwhile, Poland also to took 1 mln Ukranians to address a labor shortage and unemployment keeps hitting more and more record lows. What's the variable here? Seems like the migrants you take in.

Germany did NOTHING when Russia annexed Crimea. Even Nord Stream 2 went on as planned. And these hypocrites want to talk about 'solidarity' (a favorite word of commies and socialists) well, sorry we must've been absent for international socialist 101 at Lenin University

@johnny reb
They should've asked the hunters to shoot the animals that were crossing the border and pillaging, raping, and plundering instead. So when its a defenseless bison, they'll protect their borders. but not when there's hundreds of thousands of young males from 3rd world countries and God only knows who they really are and what they plan to do. if even just 1% of 1mil were terrorists that's 10,000 terrorists they let in

@Tacitus
Please don't exaggerate Germany's role in Iraq. Just like with Poland, they put a tiny token amount of troops all safely within the wire. The only TRUE European country to really contribute troops to Iraq was the UK. Poland sent in some 200 commandos - who at least had the balls to get out wire, load up a rosomak (the tally's called it the green monster) and were nice enough to send jihadis on their way to having 72 virgins.. we're such a kind people.