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From: New York, USA
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Lyzko   
28 Aug 2017
Travel / Planning a trip to Poland - Krakow, Auschwitz, Zakopane and other places - winter, Christmas [56]

Exactly. For transition's sake, at least stay within the same holiday theme, for pity's sake:-)

If Auschwitz is the main point of an excursion to Poland, then go on from there to Majdanek or Treblinka! This adds more moral weight and dignity to the experience.

Just can't for the life of me understand folks commemorating human suffering while celebrating the birth of their Savior.
Lyzko   
28 Aug 2017
History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]

And so you'd gladly bleed them dry merely to satisfy a grudge, eh?

All the money in heaven and earth ain't bringin' the dead back any too soon. You're arguing the same capital punishment BS. Revenge may taste sweet a first, but quickly sours as soon as Poland realizes there's nothing left in her already bare coffers:-)

Come on, Ironside & Co.,get a life, will youse!!
Lyzko   
28 Aug 2017
Language / Where did you start or the best techniques for learning Polish. [85]

....been going on as long as time itself, only thing is, it's more in your face in the Black Market countries (but particularly along the Old Silk Road....), come on, wake up, Maf, stop acting so surprised:-)

LOL

Like to see you justify/rationalize certain people with thick accents teaching English for modestly good pay, while native English speakers often go begging!
If you can figure that one out, you're good.
Lyzko   
28 Aug 2017
History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]

It seems to me, at the all-time risk of flogging the proverbial dead horse, that The Federal Republic of Germany has paid MORE than her fair share of compensatory damages for crimes admittedly for which there can never be any just or adequate compensation, as the damage wrought remains far too great to comprehend!!

These are gestures, to be sure, but indeed gestures in the right direction.
Lyzko   
27 Aug 2017
Language / Where did you start or the best techniques for learning Polish. [85]

I recently, within the past two months or so, saw "Kret" and (separately) "Zmroz oczy", a sort of adventure movie which I took to be about a man avenging the death of his father (all gleaned BEREFT of customary English subtitles).

Probably understood a good over seventy percent of the former, while the latter kept me scratching my head at times:-)
Took copious notes while watching and was pleased I could do so without assistance.

Probably the same or similar for you watching a Hollywood classic, that is, a black-and-white film with snappy dialogue in English worth listening to.
Do you ever watch with Polish subtitles or without?
Lyzko   
26 Aug 2017
Life / From Sweden to Zakopane (permanently), possible? [23]

I find the local variants quite endearingly different from Polish, e.g. "godzinek" (zegarek), "napytac" (zaprosic) and so forth. Gwara goralska puts another spin on the standard language.
Lyzko   
26 Aug 2017
Language / Where did you start or the best techniques for learning Polish. [85]

That's true to my experience as well.

As far as Tusk is concerned, the ONLY "r-sound" in Polish I know or have heard, is the flap or "trilled", much as exists in Italian, Spanish, even Bavarian German:-)

Concerning the native language aspect (no pun intended there), I certainly have no objection if someone has a foreign accent in English etc. I DO have an objection when that person calls themself English teacher and deigns to teach others pronunciation in a language in which, although basically "fluent", isn't other wise one-hundred percent. Then it becomes a joke.

I for instance speak Polish, yet would never dare to say I could teach Polish with complete native speaker accuracy in pronunciation as, for instance, German or English.
Lyzko   
26 Aug 2017
History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]

You mean "reading"?? Unless it's an audio book, a "lecture" in English is always aural.

Ah me, typical Latinized transference error from Polish. Heard a Polish mother not long ago scold her son (IN ENGLISH, no less) for "making dramas" in the store.

:-))
Lyzko   
26 Aug 2017
Language / Where did you start or the best techniques for learning Polish. [85]

And vice-versa, kaprys.

That young Polish-born and trained teacher of English in my above Polish-American parochial school example, doubtless learned English at around the same time you did.

Didn't help much! Talent, in addition to age of acquisition, must also be taken into account:-)

Furthermore, I guess from your first sentence that Donald Tusk needs a speech therapist. Then again, maybe I need a hearing aidLOL
Lyzko   
25 Aug 2017
Life / From Sweden to Zakopane (permanently), possible? [23]

"Every Polish friend I know also speak(S) English, thankfully."

Consider yourself lucky:-) Much older folks will generally know next to zero English, but for that, fluent (if unwillingly) Russian and other educated people, some basic German:-)

Lycka till, Hy!
Lyzko   
25 Aug 2017
Language / Where did you start or the best techniques for learning Polish. [85]

Yes, exactly! CD-roms all too often will pronounce the "e" with a bottom hook as almost a nasal, whereas actual Poles speaking normally (rather than academically, such as a teacher/professor) will tend to pronounce same as a schwa. The "r" though, can be problematic. Could swear that several speakers on Rosetta pronounce a "French" aka uvular "r", such as sometimes heard in arch stage diction, though rarely in this US-born listeners experience in everyday speech:-)

This also applies to the "l" with a slash. I've occasionally heard a "dark" "l-sound", but SOLELY in older movies or among those who come from the Zakopane region of Poland. The "k" in "taKze" I've usually heard pronounced as a gently-voiced hard "g-sound", among others, by those from Krakow.
Lyzko   
25 Aug 2017
History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]

While guilt itself might have no "statute of limitations", a nation's economy certainly has. More than a tad insultingly idealistic to expect the great-great-great grand kids to pay forever for the sins of their great-great-great-grandparents, isn't it? The latter's meant as a rhetorical question, incidentallyLOL
Lyzko   
25 Aug 2017
Language / Where did you start or the best techniques for learning Polish. [85]

@NoToForeigners,

In Poland, among elsewhere, non-native English speakers (often with decided Polish pronunciation, not to mention occasionally questionable grammarLOL) typically are THE instructors from whom all Poles from first grade or so right up through high school learn their English, much as they learn math, their first language, history, and science. I ought to know. I once recently observed an English lesson at a Polish-American parochial school in Maspeth, Queens and nearly squelched a few chortles while the teacher, a young Polish woman, was instructing the class on article usage in English, never ONCE seeing fit even to consult her textbook, by the way. Embarrassing, to say the least, yet not one parent in the school seemed to notice:-)

@Maf,

I totally get what you're saying and, again, for you, whatever works will lead you closer to your goal of communicative fluency. For heaven's sake, nobody's completely "perfect" in their own, much less a foreign language one learns in adulthood. It is though a kind of nice feeling to master such difficulties and to watch native speakers' reactions as you wend your way effortlessly through the bramble patches you did above!! Wouldn't you agree?
Lyzko   
24 Aug 2017
Language / Where did you start or the best techniques for learning Polish. [85]

Again, while there are tricky points about every language, I feel though it might be a mistake to "not think about" numbers in Polish, for example, doggone difficult as indeed they are!

Perhaps both a question of maturity of study as well as the learner's background, but had I decided early on not to worry about counting, I'd have had a heck of a time picking it up later on. I speak for myself here.

It's sort of like excerise. Sure, sit-ups especially can be tough as hell to do properly in the beginning, merely putting off doing them, preferring "easier" calisthenics such as running in place, knee-bends etc. merely delays the learning process and makes it that much harder to pick up years later:-)

The "fun" part of Polish is watching people's jaws drop when they finally hear or see you express yourself fluently, naturally, and correctly in the language. However, as with dessert, without the substantials from the start which are far less fun, the exhileration of victory won't feel as though you've achieved as much if there's little sweat to show for it.

Merely a few subsequent thoughts.
Lyzko   
23 Aug 2017
History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]

France though was attacked when Wehrmacht soldiers marched into the Rhineland and took over the Saar (formerly French, of course) in '39, and yet we don't here the French screaming that Germany "owes" them the Saar or Alsace-Lorraine:-)

Fact is, occupied territories were returned to France when Germany surrendered in '45, same with formerly Polish lands taken over by Hitler. That in German minds, many of Poland's cities and towns retain their formerly German "colonial" names aka Danzig/Gdnansk etc. doesn't mean they want to recapture them, does it?? It's simply ludicrous, that's all!