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SeanBM   
9 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

evidence is hidden away by those who don't like this sensitive information.

And how have you become privy to this "secret" information?

I had no idea you have access to such sensitive information, perhaps I should just take your word for everything you say?
or you're full of BS and can't back up what you are saying.

I am going to go with Occam's razor on this one.
SeanBM   
9 Feb 2010
History / WWII - Wolf's Lair. Valkyria operation had place in Poland's bunker complex. [11]

emotions run high.

I didn't fully understand what you meant.
Did he think that they would have fallen apart, ending the third Reich or been so angry and seen Hitler as a martyr and continued on?

(If Hitler was assassinated) I know it is impossible to say but surely there has been investigations in to the hypothetical situation.

And more importantly the people who attempted the Valkyria operation must have thought it would bring big change, what were their expectations?

I have to say I was forced to that Tom Cruise film Valkyrie and I wish I hadn't, for no other reason than I thoroughly dislike Tom Cruise as an actor.
SeanBM   
9 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

now i'm sure PF members shouldn't post if their IQ is less than 60.

If you can't debate you resort to insults.
Back up your words or take your own advice.

Otherwise comments like:

it's a public secret that migration from 3rd world costs Western countries much more than the returns.

Make you look stupid and paranoid and who am I to disagree with what you look like?
SeanBM   
9 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

Wasn't an issue until what, 18 months ago? It'll cease to be an issue again within a couple of years.

I think this is one of the more interesting points about this whole topic, apart from did it actually happen or not or do we just talk ourselves into oblivion? :)

Ireland and Britain needed foreign workers.
The economy was booming, companies recorded record profits each year.
The banks were lending to everybody and their cat, bank's lending policies and toxic assets caused the credit crunch.
And like a house of cards it collapsed.
So now that there are fewer jobs, the economy slows down, who do people blame? the banks? Noooooo.
I understand that people see foreign cheap labour as a threat because that is what they physically see in front of them day in day out, fuelled by sensationalist tabloids but I just do not see it as the underlying cause.
SeanBM   
9 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

Did this happen or did I miss it ?

Good question, I have absolutely no idea.

If you want to know something about the BNP then go to them as relying on another party to do so is a mistake because they all slate each other and spread rumours.

I am not going to go to the BNP.
I quoted links that explicitly show the racism inherent in the BNP and they were not from other parties.
I am not English therefore I am not going to vote, I am just curious.

Its not a myth that asylum seekers were given priority for housing

Is it also a myth? :

Immigration detainees can be held indefinitely, and their detention is not automatically reviewed by the courts. Most detainees are asylum seekers whose claims have been refused. Many experience extreme isolation and distress, knowing no-one in the UK and with very limited understanding of the language, law, their rights and entitlements. Many are traumatised by their experiences in their home country, by finding themselves detained with no release date, and by the prospect of being forcibly returned.

ldsg.org.uk/files/modules/content/index.php?id=1

asylum seekers were given priority for housing, the details are freely available from your local council and i have viewed my local councils and the proportion of foreign people in council housing is far higher than that of native people.

Are all the foreigners asylum seekers?
There is a very big difference between the two.

Which leads me to wonder why people view racism as unhuman when the only way to suppress it is with the fear of legal action.
50s,60s & 70s britain is a good example.

A good example of what?
SeanBM   
8 Feb 2010
Travel / Poland to Romania (and back!) [18]

Even cheap flights to Budapest are hard to come by

I drove down to Budapest about 6 months ago.
It is only a 6/7 hour drive from Krakow.

Yeah it was strange for me to have to go to Copenhaugen to get to Romania, it was the wrong direction after all.
SeanBM   
8 Feb 2010
Travel / Poland to Romania (and back!) [18]

I notice there is a shortage of flights from Poland to Romania.

I went a few years ago and flew via Copenhagen.

I think the main traffic is to the workers in other countries or for holiday destinations not so much Poland/Romania.

Good luck.
SeanBM   
8 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

Voting BNP was not an option for me personally.

I always thought you are a patriot not a nationalist (in the BNP sense of the word).
Is this why?

Do you think many people will spoil their vote and vote for the BNP in direct defiance? as has been suggested on this thread.

How well are the UKIP doing in comparison to the BNP?

I could really just read an English newspaper but you know... eeehhh... this seems easier ;p
SeanBM   
8 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

Most people see UKIP as a anti EU tory group and not a stand alone party.

Is that not better than the BNP?

George Orwell

Fantastic writer, I will have to read that too.

The first line alone begs me to read the whole thing:

As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me.

The working class have the most to fear from fascism but always seem to be drawn to it.

The same can be said for communism.
SeanBM   
8 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

A vote for BNP is a clear sign of discontent with immigration as that's the main issue that BNP is associated with. It's an extreme vote, but one that the big boys will be forced to look at.

From the top two issues the UKIP have on there website, it seems leaving the E.U. and stopping immigration are their two main objectives.

# UKIP will leave the political EU and trade globally and freely. We will re-embrace today's fast-growing Commonwealth and we will encourage UK manufacturing so that we make things again.
# We will freeze immigration for five years, speed up deportation of up to a million illegal immigrants by tripling the numbers engaged in deportations, and have 'no home no visa' work permits to ease the housing crisis.

I think it is scary to see people vote for clearly known racists especially when there is an alternative like the UKIP.
I have to say it reminds me of Hitler's rise to power.

Could other matters, possibly far more serious, be one of the reasons for BNP's popularity?

There is a thread about it: BBC defend decision to invite the BNP to appear on tonight's "Question Time"
SeanBM   
8 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

What about the UKIP Jonni?

I saw one piece of promotional material, the UKIP were showing that immigration issues had to be dealt with (but they did not say how) and that they were not racists like the BNP.

I have not read anything more about them and I am just a little curious if they are gaining political ground?

Edit*

I have some answers from their website here.
SeanBM   
8 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

in the case of the BNP i have no quarms in voting for them as i see them as a tool to control and reverse the immigration

Is the UKIP not an acceptable alternative to the BNP on this particular issue? why? why not?

I don't know much about the UKIP, I am just curious.
SeanBM   
7 Feb 2010
Life / Do Polish people help one another? [40]

not exactly

You said it yourself, I even highlighted it when I quoted you.

what?????????? i think i didn't get it

Again here are your own words:

did anyone have the pleasure to be removed by the security guards, bacause you're causing trouble? it happens to me from time to time, but they usually have the excuse, because i always had a little drink, i am not drunk thogh, they still hate me for making trouble and stuff like that, i really don't understand that, maybe they can't stand being tought by someone like me?

SeanBM   
7 Feb 2010
Life / Do Polish people help one another? [40]

did anyone have the pleasure to be removed by the security guards, bacause you're causing trouble? it happens to me from time to time, but they usually have the excuse, becausei always had a little drink, i am not drunk thogh, they still hate me for making trouble and stuff like that, i really don't understand that, maybe they can't stand being tought by someone like me?

So you get merry, cause trouble and security throws you out.
Sounds like they are doing their job well to me.
SeanBM   
5 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

You guys are passing the buck.
Blame it on the next guy and these Brits include people of Pakistani, Nigerian, Chinese and other non-E.U. back grounds and the Hindu faith etc...

you know that the Europeans girls have a common things with you

Not that much actually, Poland and Ireland have very little shared history, just individual cases until very recently.

what about non European bums ? they are reserved for their folks, well most of the time. What about talking with her about common things?

Why do you feel it necessary to limit your conversations?
SeanBM   
4 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

That's just vtec having his usual problems with truth.

Ah, I see.

racist loser Pawel

"Pawel" sounds like "Paddy", the derogatory label for Irishmen
or "Paki" a derogatory term directed towards South Asians.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs#P
SeanBM   
4 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

Other Irish European Parliament candidates have immediately accused Libertas of "fascism" and reminded voters that many Irish would have to be kicked out from other countries.

I wonder if they will get Walesa to be a spokesperson this time? Walesa the surprise guest at Libertas convention

Are Libertas high on drugs?
SeanBM   
4 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

The crisis meant that Brits lost their jobs and they needed a scapegoat. All was going well, a bubble of sorts, with foreigners contributing to that. Then it went pear-shaped (t*ts up) and I can only assume that the work rate of foreigners remained constant as they have mouths to feed to, of course. Blame the bankers, they're the wan*ers!

This is an important point in my opinion.

I was working in London for a few years during the bubble, it was not easy to get professionals as they were very busy. I had to fire a load of guys, Poles and Brits alike for not working.

I had a Polish plasterer, do 8sq m, of wall surface with skim coat. It took him 1 week.
1 day to plaster, 4 days sanding the lumps and bumps.
The idiot even helped himself to my whiskey, for which he should have got a kick in the knackers.
Glad we agreed a price beforehand.
I think his name was Bronco Oliver Twist......... a cowboy and a thief.

I hold you responsible for who you hire, not you as a Brit and not the plasterer as a Pole.
Cowboys know no nationality.

:
There's always work for good workers.

No incentive to offer or do quality work when the cheapest cowboy wins.

I think delphiandomine was talking about something else but I agree with your statement nonetheless. Anyone who has done anything knows that quite often picking the cheapest alternative you are adding expenses and wasting time, fixing all the problems.

There is also the situation where British employers will take on Polish people as they have a reputation for being more industrious than their British counterparts-

I was working in Canary Warf in London in my early 20s.
There were four of us filling the same job, me (an Irish man) and three others (English guys).
They had to let go of three of us because of cut backs. So I said thanks for the work, I'll be off.
The other lads, that were going to be let go, looked at me and said that I was to be kept for the simple reason that if I was told to shovel dung from here to there and back, I would do it, whereas they would ask why, have a smoke, and deliberate about it.

They were nice lads but they lived with their families, I was alone and had to do every bit of work that came my way.

I was desperate and had to work, while the other fellas lived with their parents.

I think the Poles took the place of the Irish, on building sites and unfortunately wrapped up in cardboard under the bridges.
Not everyone makes it and those that do have to be prepared to work harder than everyone else.
SeanBM   
3 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

VIDEO

I disagree that people look after ''their own''' whites will hire whites etc...
I think most employers balance work efficiency with cost.

The problem is that they've known about the issue for 6 years now

But the recession is not that old and lets face it when things are booming nobody complains.

I dunno, if the choice was between benefits or working, wouldn't anyone with half a brain work? I was never going to get a good job in what I wanted to originally do in the UK (marketing - it was really London or nothing, and I didn't want London) - so I moved.

I honestly think most people, with their friends, local boozer, family, dog etc... don't want to leave and think (rightly so IMHO) that they should not have to.

Nothing on their site yet,

I really think it is sad that these BNP people come in at such things.
You may disagree with me but I can see how Hitler rose to power, the people felt threated (ok they were also staving) and nobody was doing anything about it when along comes...

’We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!’

Well learning the language is a good idea, don't you think?
It is a matter of how you enforce such things that is the problem.
SeanBM   
3 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

I always thought that in this particular industrial sector the poorly skilled workers were precisely the Brits...

What made you think that?

The unskilled labourers on a building site are not always Brits also the skilled labourers and tradesmen (and women:) still need to communicate with the foreman and this usually means a gofor or apprentice that can translate, from my experience from working in London.

No wonder they're protesting, most of them are clearly thick as ****,

Or maybe they just feel that their livelihoods are threatened and their government is not living up to their expectations?

Why don't they take jobs abroad? There's plenty of menial jobs on offer in Poland.

Most people (not all) only move country if it is absolutely necessary.

BNP

I have no reason to believe the BNP have anything to do with it yet but unfortunately they will probably rear their ugly head at some stage.
SeanBM   
3 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

Thousands of British construction workers are going to stage a protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles, on 3 February in London.

The aim of the demonstration is to remind PM Gordon Brown about his pledge to give "British jobs to British workers". It will also mark the first anniversary of the protests at the Lindsey Oil Refinery.

Protesters claim that since last year's strike the situation on the British labour market has not improved. Sub-contractors still flood construction sites with cheap and poorly skilled workers from Poland, Spain, Italy and Portugal, cliam the protestors.

Thousands of workers from building sites, power plants and oil refineries will join the protest.

thenews/business/artykul124014_brits-to-protest-against-polish-workers-.html
SeanBM   
2 Feb 2010
Life / Can foreigners really understand Poles? [136]

'You make it sound like there is no difference between communist times and now.' - what do you mean exactly? That there is no difference in which aspect?

Law is law in Poland, the executioner of law - that is and was the point.

you are very wrong, because the codified law which constitutes Polish law stems from French system and has nothing to do with communism. The law wasn't just given by communists :-) this is much older 'tradition'.

In the interpretation and implementation of the law by the communist system, not the laws themselves in most cases and in others the law was changed by the communists and changed back now.

Your rights as a citizen, your freedom of speech and expression, your freedom to travel, your right to run your own business (in most cases), property rights, internment, etc... Who's 'laws' were these?

All of these have had a lasting effect on the inhabitants of Poland. I see and hear of it still today.

I think you are arguing that Polish law is better than English law because you have a codex.
I have heard this many times from many different advocates and notaries here in Poland and Lithuania and that there is no difference between now and communist time in respect to the law codex. This is a different topic as far as I am concerned.

Whereas I am saying:

look at what foreigners complain about most on PF, a lot of it has to do with the lingering communist mentality, bureaucracy and if you interpret communism as an invading force or occupation you can see that people don't respect the law so much as there seems to be a feeling that it is not their law.

SeanBM   
2 Feb 2010
News / Poland: In Top First 15 Countries in the WORLD by the number of CRIMES [286]

property stolen while visiting a prostitute - only for them to report it to the embassy as "omg, someone stole my wallet" so their wife doesn't find out.

It's true every time my wallet gets robbed I am with a prostitute, its uncanny :)

Come on, it's common knowledge that foreigners will never admit the truth

So it is foreigners that take Top place in the WORLD by the number of CRIMES!!!!
Damn those tourists!