Law / Polish/EU Citizenship by Descent [88]


You really are trying to argue a point that doesn't exist. Those without clear proof of Polish citizenship have no right to live, reside and work here, which is why the permanent residency through Polish descent option. It's the mechanism that's often used by Polish-Americans that retire to Poland.

Incidentally, consulates issue the Karta Polaka. You really ought to learn something about the laws in which you claim to understand.


Which is why permanent residency is the option provided to such people that can prove that they are of Polish descent, but cannot prove it through paperwork. Incidentally, you cannot claim citizenship through a grandparent, as the line must be unbroken.


Those that actually understand the law know that the law provides for everyone of Polish descent as long as their ancestors had a link to Poland in some way. In the OP's case, permanent residency will be easily obtained to facilitate their legal stay in Poland.

Life / Immigration Free Poland is Not Being Racist [194]

I was referring to his claim about Christianity being people-friendly.

News / Poland, still corrupt, but not as bad as Czech/Hungary & Italy [36]


For instance, this is a fine piece of journalism by a newspaper directly controlled by PiS.



niezalezna.pl/46088-ujawniamy-dokumenty-ziobro-byl-czlonkiem-pzpr

PZPR to the bone.

Law / Polish/EU Citizenship by Descent [88]


The consulates are directing people towards citizenship applications because they cannot grant residence permits. It needs to be applied for from within Poland, and consulates simply won't know about this provision as it's outside their competence.

Your Polish lawyers must be Ziobro's colleagues, because anyone with knowledge of Polish citizenship and residency law knows that the permanent residency/Karta Polaka mechanism is used to provide those of Polish descent a way to reside legally in Poland. In the OP's case, where Polish citizenship cannot be proved for various reasons, then the permanent residency application makes sense if they have a genuine connection to Poland.

UK, Ireland / Polish fascist 'priest' detained at U.K. airport [43]


No such thing. If you had read the rules on freedom of movement, states are perfectly able to deny entry if someone poses a danger to the public. In this case, he was coming with the intention of inciting others.


Poland should also consider excluding people who openly discriminate against national minorities, particularly if that person is the spiritual successor to the person formerly known as The Artist. As you will be well aware, the Polish constitution requires everyone to be treated equally.


He won't win, as the law clearly allows refusal in the event of the person being a threat to public safety. It is the mechanism used to deny residence applications of undesirable EU citizens in other EU countries, and the same mechanism that was used to deport large amounts of Roma back to Romania.

You really should learn something about Polish law.


I find it absolutely hilarious that he was turning up to support an organisation that has openly and repeatedly condemned Poles.

britainfirst.org/poles-demand-millions-from-britain-to-pay-their-benefits - for instance.

UK, Ireland / Polish fascist 'priest' detained at U.K. airport [43]


I find it quite hilarious that you're ignoring the vast amounts of hate whipped up by the right wing media against Polish people in the UK.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2538897/We-spend-35million-year-lock-Polish-criminals-jails-900-criminals-held-packed-prisons.htmlprisons.html

For instance.

News / Poland, still corrupt, but not as bad as Czech/Hungary & Italy [36]

That seems to be exactly the point. If you join them and loudly and publicly agree with whatever the Dear Leader Chairman Kaczyński says, they'll make sure that you don't have to worry. Prosecuted dissidents during the PRL? You're the perfect man to be the leader of our justice committee!

Life / Immigration Free Poland is Not Being Racist [194]


What a troll Kaczyński is :)

UK, Ireland / Polish fascist 'priest' detained at U.K. airport [43]


I still can't get over the comedy of "Britain First" inviting a Polish guy to speak.

Law / Polish/EU Citizenship by Descent [88]


You really need to learn more about Polish law. Those of Polish descent may apply straight away for permanent residency, which is often granted when there's clear proof that the family is Polish even if they don't have a right to citizenship. The Karta Polaka is a completely different device used when someone can claim Polish citizenship in theory, but cannot due to strict citizenship laws in the FSU.

If someone has a clear connection to Poland, such as Polish grandparents, they speak some Polish and they're active in Polonia organisations, permanent residency is normally granted without trouble.


Like many of your previous attempts to blame incidents on minorities in the II RP, it's again quite incorrect. The Polish majority in the II RP was openly hostile towards Jews throughout most of that state's existence, which is one reason why it deserved to fall.

News / Poland, still corrupt, but not as bad as Czech/Hungary & Italy [36]

Polonius, are you really so naive as to believe that PiS aren't riddled with people that also had such contacts? I mean - seriously - are you that brainwashed that you're willing to pretend that Interior Ministry local bosses wouldn't have had such contacts, or what about public prosecutors operating during martial law?

It seems to me that you're willing to tolerate people with close PZPR connections so long as they're now members of PiS.


I'd name names, but I'm afraid of those criminal libel laws. However, a lot of the current government come from nomeklatura families, and many of them only owe their position in public life through having prominent local families. One person in particular has three close family members that are known to be ex-PZPR, while many others had parents in good jobs as a result of their links with the PZPR.

Law / Is there any risk in being asked to become a shareholder in a limited company in Poland? [27]


If that's the case, she has no idea about how to run a company and he should run a mile. One of the most basic rules of opening an sp. z o.o. is that you always have two shareholders in order to massively reduce your ZUS bill.


Absolutely. It's not the capital he has to worry about, it's the chance of being associated with fraud and by consequence, heavy-handed actions of the State.

UK, Ireland / Polish fascist 'priest' detained at U.K. airport [43]


That hardly counts for anything, given that he was cleared by prosecutors who are under political control. You might want to educate yourself about how many prosecutions are dropped on orders of Ziobro.


Only 30 turned up, a laughable display if there ever was one. And that was after they delayed it for an hour in the vain hope of attracting others to turn up.

Law / Polish/EU Citizenship by Descent [88]


Until of course, you have to deal with the things that make life much harder for them. Cheap health care is only part of the puzzle, as you also have to consider issues such as many Polish cities being covered in choking smog this winter. Winters can be long and harsh (snow at Easter is nothing unusual), city infrastructure is often incomplete or missing, and public bureaucracy can be intense if you're used to the Anglosphere way of doing things.

Of course, there are benefits like cheap health care, but who wants to live in choking smog in winter just for that?

Language / Ski Or Ska? - Polish surname endings [44]


Why is it daft? It's their name. It takes a second or two to type them using the relevant alt-code, and it's a matter of basic respect.

News / Poland, still corrupt, but not as bad as Czech/Hungary & Italy [36]

So, when will he be using that broom to sweep away the corruption, such as the habit of the Minister of Defence in putting unqualified, inexperienced young men in positions that they are unsuitable for?

The reality is that this is simply about seizing the assets of companies that aren't friendly towards the government. Criticise PiS as the owner of a large business? Expect your assets to be seized without trial.

Putin will be proud.

Law / Is there any risk in being asked to become a shareholder in a limited company in Poland? [27]

I went back and re-read what the OP said, and the thing that stands out is the issue of the boyfriend's shareholding causing problems. Could it be that he's blocking her attempts to load the sp. z o.o. with debt?

Law / Polish/EU Citizenship by Descent [88]


They don't. If you knew anything about Poland, you'd know that Poland offers a very easy route for such people.


They won't. They'll leave within months once they realise that it's not the land that they think it is. Poland is a tough place for older people, and it can be a very expensive place if you want to live somewhere nice.


Exactly, it's got nothing to do with Poland.

News / Poland, still corrupt, but not as bad as Czech/Hungary & Italy [36]


The one who got a 3 overall grade (the lowest passing grade) in his studies and who didn't even complete the "aplikacja" in any direction?

Not much of a crusader, if you ask me.

Law / Is there any risk in being asked to become a shareholder in a limited company in Poland? [27]


A bit more about Polish culture - do you think, generally speaking, Polish people would be looking for someone to buy shares in their small company if everything was fine? That alone seems suspicious to me.

Feedback / Is it Possible to Get Permanently Banned From the Polish Forum ? [27]


Perhaps the Admin would like to confirm if Johnny has in fact contributed a single dollar to PF, or if this is just yet another lie. Johnny, I presume that in the interests of maintaining your credibility here, you permit the Admin to divulge this information.

Feedback / Is it Possible to Get Permanently Banned From the Polish Forum ? [27]

Johnny, let's face it, you're simply salty that Adrian and "Deep" got themselves banned permanently for their actions on here.

Funny that people associated with you keep getting banned and warned though, isn't it? Anyone would think that you were filling their heads full of crap via PM, or something.

Feedback / Is it Possible to Get Permanently Banned From the Polish Forum ? [27]


Nope. I'm not surprised he's unhappy that I'm back, it's one extra person to call him out on his obvious lies about Poland, such as his recent claim that Poland should ally with Russia.

Life / Why are Muslims seen as a deterrent to Poland? [564]


This is the huge problem with Islam - the one that are pushing their view through their wealth are the ones backing a truly idiotic view of the world. If they were pushing Bosnian-style Islam, the world would be a far better place.

Law / Is there any risk in being asked to become a shareholder in a limited company in Poland? [27]


Polish law is... well, have a read of this:

fifetoday.co.uk/news/kirkcaldy-filmmaker-facing-court-in-poland-1-4371584

As you can see, as he was a 'manager' in the company, they are going after him, even though he had nothing to do with the transaction.

Law / Is there any risk in being asked to become a shareholder in a limited company in Poland? [27]


OK, for instance, do you understand Polish to know what you are signing? You could be placed as the 'representative' of the company, and with it, you could be listed as the one who has decision-making powers in the company. I can't explain this too well as it's a Polish concept, but it's possible that she could take on debts using your identity as the one who made the decision to take on those debts. For instance, let's say she orders something in your name. She doesn't pay for those goods, but when the time comes to pay, it's you that made the order on behalf of the company. That means that you will be held responsible, even though you thought you were only a shareholder and not a decision-maker.

That can then lead to criminal investigations, with your extradition to Poland to answer criminal charges, even for small amounts.

If she is honest, ask her to produce the financial statements from 2016 and 2015. That should be your first clue - if she refuses to produce them, then something is wrong. If you want, I can explain how to check some publicly available records which should give you insight into how the company is operating.

My strong, strong advice is not to get involved. I would be very reluctant to get involved, even as a Polish speaker living in Poland.

Law / Is there any risk in being asked to become a shareholder in a limited company in Poland? [27]

Run a mile.

Polish law is insane in this respect, and if you don't understand exactly what you're getting into, it's best to stay well away from it. There are various nefarious things that someone can do with you being a shareholder, and without you having a sound knowledge of Polish business law, it's wise to stay away.

She could simply buy the shares herself if management is an issue. If you know her company name, feel free to PM me and I'll tell you about any specific warning flags that I can find.

Polonia / Volunteers from Poland in Novorossiya [90]


It's exactly that. I wouldn't even say it's in disguise, it's pretty clear that the only people promoting it are pro-Russia types.

Feedback / Is it Possible to Get Permanently Banned From the Polish Forum ? [27]


Remember that while he's playing the victim card up above about an employer allegedly being contacted, him and the poster known as "Deep" did exactly that to me. Seems to me as if he's delusional on more than one level, and that his only hobby is to obsess over moderators, administration, warnings and so on. The Admin made a decision to unban me, and anyone that's been on PF long enough knows that the Admin's decision is final and not worth debating.

Still, it's no coincidence that this forum has only one active female member with him around. Look here - he's already abusing a new female poster for no reason - polishforums.com/love/guy-cares-ladys-age-japan-80674/#msg1583201 - and he has the cheek to complain about me?

News / American GIs troops finally in Poland and, thank God, there's more to come [480]


Oh, but you do. The begging and pleading by the government and her supporters for American troops on the ground and American weaponry is a perfect example of that. The only people promoting an anti-American agenda in PL are pro-Putin.


Poland would have been obliterated regardless. The choice was simple: become a puppet state of Nazi Germany and lose huge parts of the territory and citizens, or get obliterated. No other choice there.