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28 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was in 1943 - and the Ghetto was liquidated in the same year, surely. The Warsaw Uprising was in 1944. These are two separate events.

The Germans don't waste time.

On the fifth day of the Uprising, captain Jan announced a new objective for the company: to take the concentration camp Gesiówka, erected by the Germans in the vast, empty and wide open space of the burned out Warsaw Ghetto.

(...)
Taking Gesiówka would allow the liberation of its 400 prisoners, the obtaining of arms and the elimination of the German fire from the guard towers overlooking the streets and buildings on the fringes of the ruined ghetto. Two events made this endeavor mandatory and possible. First was a chance arrest, on the first day of fighting, of a Gestapo officer from the Gesiówka Concentration Camp who revealed that all of the prisoners were Jews, the last Jews remaining in Warsaw.

warsawuprising.com/savejews.htm
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28 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

kaliszer

Your explanation why many Jews chose communism is logical and I basically I agree with this view. However if they already gained power, many of them supported Lenin's and Stalin's criminal policy. This was not for what communism stands in theory. Later one could say revolution eat its children, of course not only Jews.

One could say that some of those Jews saw internationalism as a solution for the sake of Jews as well. So this is not pure betrayal like Polish Nazi collaborators.

But the crimes of some Polish groups, such as the Endec before the war and the AK during the war, who both targeted Jews, even while fighting the Germans, were done in the name of Polish patriotism.

Endecja did not kill the Jews, rather supported some state politics to reduce number of Jews and increase number of Poles for example in universities. Anti-Jewish policy was based more on "economical" factors rather racial. Of course some fringe groups also existed like everywhere.

While those from AK could be pissed off seeing that many Jews collaborate with Soviets whom backstabber us. AK also had some number of Jewish members and organized some pro-Jewish actions. They liberated Jewish ghetto during Warsaw 1944 rising.

The massacre at Kielce after the war seemed to say that it was. .

Kielce was inspired by commies, both Poles and Jews over there fought for survival. Sh*t happens sometimes.

So Jews got the impression that after all they and the Poles went through during the war, nothing had changed. It was still "Polska dla Polakow" and certainly not a place for Jews to remain.

But note what those Poles saw, many Jews in goverment and Polish KGB run practically by the Jews chasing for AK members. One could say that this was also Stalin plan, such personal policy.
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28 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

,but seriously,this was an assualt that the police new would go through quiker on a "race relations "

This is logic used by many authoritarians. Anyway where is freedom of speech? (even for idiots)

well lets just line em all up an shoot em because a few old commies were jews......same rational lets line up a few thousand Poles coz Dzerzhinsky was a Pole and must therefore be responsible for the nkvd .......

Of course I don't blame innocent Jewish individuals. However if many Jews find this OK to profane good name of the Polish nation, because few individuals (for sure less that number of Jewish commies) collaborated with Germans. I have full right to expect from them to attribute crimes of those Jewish communists on account of the Jews. If Kwasniewski must apologize for Jedwabne (average Pole don't even know where is this sh*t-hole) than perhaps some Jewish leader should apologize for Jewish communists? (not communism in general) Issue between Polish commies and the rest of Polish people is our internal problem.
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27 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

But what they did was not done by "THE JEWS" because they did it as renegades from the Jewish community and certainly from the jewish religion.

Come on, the Jews as a ethnic group (I don't blame Judaism) cannot so easily get away with this. Especially if many Jews loves to blame other nations for their misbehaviors, they should acknowledge crimes committed by the ethnic Jews as well. No matter how would Jews in Israel or US try to avoid this topic in Poland and some other countries people will remember. Denial don't bring them a sympathy among those people for sure.

That's why it bothers me when Europeans think it has something to do with racism.

Unfortunately many people don't understand the meaning of the words that they use. Even according to British court a Welshman who verbally offends Englishman is racist, what is absolutely ridiculous.
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26 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

- But how do you know this that the Israelis moving in consider 'western countries' (whatever it means) more attractive? I hope you don't base your statement about the Israelis on a reasoning of the sort: 'Since some Chechens consider Germany more attractive to live in than Poland, then Israeli immigrants also consider Germany more attractive to live in than Poland'?

Germany is not the only country in the EU outside of Poland. I have seen enough Jews in the internet to doubt that they want to live among those evil Poles. Those who battle already many years to got some compensation probably dislike Poland even more.
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26 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

I guess that Polish courts would have no choice but to hear out their claims.

Polish courts should honestly analyze evidence that they provide.

It shouldn't be unduly problematic as Poland has a land mass probably 3 times that of Britain's who have accommodated 800,000 Poles so 10,000 shouldn't rattle too many cages

All of those people for sure don't want to settle here. Probably this is mostly about money. Even most of those who want Polish passport, in fact need it only to go westwards.
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26 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

No there are 3 main groups: Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Oriental.

I heard about this division, however I don't know whether they all origin from one ancient ethnic group (or more) and were divided in this way already when they spread all over the world.
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26 Dec 2007
Life / What's wrong with you, Polish people - is it an inferiority complex? [120]

Is it some kind of an inferiority complex? I know the answer, because we all are suffering from the same disease - yes, it is an inferiority complex.

Do you feel better when you impute to all of us your own problem? According to popular opinion that together/united we will survive. Students in school when they fail to pass some exam usually feel better if most of their colleagues failed as well. They think that if so many failed then maybe "we are not that bad".
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26 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

You find white Jews, brown Jews, slavic Jews, germanic Jews, even black Jews....

I think they are a Religion, not an ethnie!

Those religious are Judaists. Except black Judaists, the rest rather have the same ethnic origin. (I'm not 100% sure)

you won't believe everything the Nazis told, won't you?

Tell this to millions of non-believers, those who consider themselves Jewish! :)
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26 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

"Jewishness" is not about religion, this is ethnic origin. Judaists are more that only ethnic Jews. I have seen in other forum two American Jews arguing over this issue. If we would call "Jewish" only those religious people then for example:

- Nazis would not kill about 6 millions of Jews (plenty of non-believers don't count )
- Number of Jews in Poland would be VERY small because few of them attend to synagogues according to statistics.
- A lot of non-believers whom consider themselves Jewish would be wrong

'Muslim' refers clearly to the religion.
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25 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

Using the phrase "The Jewish Bolsheviks" is demagoguery. The bolsheviks were anti-Jewish.

Bolshevicks were not only Jewish for sure. However there were a lot of ethnic Jews among leaders of revolution is Russia. (according to my sources Lenin was not a Jew) Those Jews caused for sure more harm to people than those few Poles who collaborated with Nazis. I don't buy this argument that they were not religious. We hear often Jews complaining about Polish crimes and they never analyze whether those who committed it were really Catholic or not. Media rise often Polish question but they never talk about Jewish faults.

Funded by Jews?

Trotsky was married with daughter of Wall-Street banker. Most of Wall-Street and "120-Broadway" bankers were Jewish emigrants from Russia. They were supposed to help Bolsheviks in revolution to take over control of Russian oil fields from Czar. (So, there is not Zionist motivation here, while Bolsheviks were internationalist)

This is what my source says about this subject. However this book is about French revolution and just one chapter analyze influence of the latter on events in Russia. So, Wall-Street issue was just mentioned aside. Author refers to A.C. Sutton "Wall-Street and the Bolshevik revolution" and H. Coston "Les financiers qui menent le monde". I would need to read something more to have personal opinion.
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24 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

Do I sound hostile?

Well, somebody asking questions like "Why are you Poles so anti-Semitic" doesn't sounds too friendly.

You're from Gdansk, right? And you are part german. Does that mean that you are descended from the germans of Danzig when it was a german city?

One of my grandmothers was German from Danzig.
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24 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

I don't need everyone to love Jews. But when I come across bigotry, as I did in some posts here, I confront it.

Perhaps this is what you really want to see? Otherwise you could notice that almost all people spreading anti-Jewish propaganda here aren't from Poland. This is English language forum...
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23 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

I'll bring that up at the next meeting of the Elders of Zion.

So we need to wait couple of years till you grow up... :)

The west is hardly liberal and probably the worst situation is in socialistic hole called France (mostly internal Semitic clashes by the way)
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23 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

Although I don't think that many Poles have problem with Jews, many from those you have is provoked by Jewish internal (Michnik and company, "if you disagree with us, you are anti-Semitic" attitude) and external (JWC, huge compensation demands plus revisionist comments) forces. A Jew, Normal Finkelstein wrote some books on this issue.
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13 Dec 2007
History / 13 of December - the anniversary of MARTIAL LAW in Poland [48]

IPN finally discovered what many knew long time ago. Jaruzelski is the one to blame for Marial Law without any excuses. Even in TVN they talked in such mood. Few years more, Jaruzel and his pals pass away and this version will be even in schoolbooks.
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30 Oct 2007
History / Kosciuszko Squadron - why don't they bring it back? [45]

I have read the book and I liked very much. Nice history plus authors provide many details about shadows of politics.

Of course if Germany would invade UK in first place and US and Soviet Union stay aside, British army would be crushed.