History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


Pimogeniture is defined as either being, the state of firtborn among parents, or an exclusive right to inhereitance belonging to the first born. Coupled with the adjective "biblical", It shows that Lysko believes that Palestinians living in their own house all their lives until Zionists kicked them out, were living in what was somehow not "rightfully" theirs because the bible says that the the land wasn't rightfully theirs because God granted it to the Israelites. How is that any different than the Nazis claim that Mein Kampf says that the lands of Central Europe are rightfully theirs and thus their exictions of Jew were justified? It isn't any different at all! In the bible God tells the Israelites to exterminate all the Canaanites and to take their land. The bible with regards to Canaan/Palestine and Mien Kampf with regards to Poland are both wrong because they advocate genocide and the denial of the property rights of people with the "wrong" ethnicity in the respective lands. Your claim that these situations are "apples and oranges" is a disgustingly ethnocentric obfuscation Lyzko.

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History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


Is it really OK for Harry to accuse two forum members of being genocidal? Isn't this flaming?

Life / Poles close to grandparents [32]


There is no Grandmother's Day in America and as the eloquent and logical a.k., the Polish heroine of this thread, has pointed out: There is nothing communist about celebrating a day to honor one's grandparents.

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


If anti-racism were "anti-Semitic" than it is not truly "anti-racism" because anti-Semitism is a form of racism.

The blog you have linked to is biased joke, delphiandomine, look at the following claim it makes:


The "best democracies" grant human and political rights to all of the people they rule, not just to people from a certain religion. The Zionist entity in Palestine applied military laws to its non-Jewish Arab population from its start in 1948 until 1966, and then in 1967 it conquered more territory, in a war of aggression, and the non-Jewish inhabitants of this conquered territory have been under military rule since, nor have the non-Jews in that conquered territory been given citizenship, or the right to vote, despite having been ruled by this "democracy" for over 43 years! Democracies must enfranchise all the adults under their sway, or they are not "the best in democracy" nor are they really democracies at all.

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


Real anti-Semites are the wolves and those calling anti-racist people, who criticize Zionism's racist aspects, "anti-Semites" are not only lying they are also doing the Zionist entity a disservice as well, because unless the Zionist entity becomes less racist it will continue to be attacked and by silencing legitimate critics with false accusations of anti-Semitism the disingenous are thereby helping to ensure that the Zionist entity does not change its racist ways and thereby prolonging the Zionist entity's status as a pariah state under attack.

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


Lyko was talking about criicisms that are not in truth anti-Semitic and so you are rudely butting into a conversation and bringing up something else. You need a courses in both etiquette and logic, delphiandomine.


Are you accussing me of being a Communist? I am not a Communist and you have some real cheek to claim that I am using "buzzwords" from the 1960's, when you are using laughably stupid red-baiting tactics from the 1950's! Do you even think about what you write before you post it?

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


This is a problem, Lyzko, by calling legitimate criticizisms of the Zionist entity's brutality and racism "anti-Semitism" you are cheapening the term anti-Semitism and aiding real anti-Semites in their quest to make all Jews suspect as a nation of reflexive liars. Have you heard the fable of the boy who cried wolf?

Life / Your favorite Chopin piece / Chopin Competition in Poland [23]

The Heroic Polonaise is a great one.

History / Friedrich Nietzsche - Polish or German ? [73]

Nietzsche was supremely happy with who he was- one of the most brilliant minds to ever grace this Earth. He was superior to those around him. As for your lame attempt to provoke me it just shows, like so many other of your posts, that it is you who are insecure and thus you lash out at others in a sad attempt to feel better about yourself.

History / Friedrich Nietzsche - Polish or German ? [73]


You should read his autoiography and realize that you are wrong. Nietzsche disdained most Germans as boring clodhoppers and claimed that what nobility Germans do have is the result of them having Slavic blood. He considered his own brilliance to be the result of him being the atavistic reoccurance of a Polish nobleman. He and his father were very proud of their family's suppossed roots in the Polish nobility. So much so that the latter had their family classified as "non-German" with the Prussian authorities.

Nietzsche is a great counter-example to all the Western-European crud we read on this forum that denigrates Poles. Nietzsche knew better.

History / Friedrich Nietzsche - Polish or German ? [73]


He saw himself as both Polish and German but he felt that the Polish part of his being was the most important.

Life / Poles close to grandparents [32]


Honoring one's grandparents is never "hilarious" not matter what government instituted an official holiday to do so. This is just common sense amongst humans who naturally love their grandparents. Those who don't respect their elders and who have the sick mentality that even leads them to insult their elders, or the elders of a country in whom they are guests, are examples of inhumanity and they are despicable.

History / Friedrich Nietzsche - Polish or German ? [73]


Schopenhauer ws born there, and lived there as a youth, but his father movd the family to Hamburg when he saw that the city was going over into Prussian hands, because he knew that the Prussians would tax and constrain his business far more than the Poles had and he didn't want the hassle.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


Actually its more like melted down in a crucible and made essential. Poles in America got to live in a freedom akin to that of the szlachta in the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth, which was itself a republic in spirit like America. The liberal Polish spirit has thus thrived and flourished here amongst the descendants of those adventurous Poles who sailed away to this brave new world. Polish-Americans are tempermentally what Poles in Poland today would be like without the legacy of extra decades of Germanic and Russian oppression. Now that Poland is free and her sons and daughters are throwing off the dour grey cloak that the travails of the Twentieth Century left her clothed in. Poles and Polonians will eventually meet in a culmination of the Slavic people's great destiny to re-introduce the proper human lifestyle to he world- that of cooperative anarchy dedicated to human liberty and joy rather than the ugly consumerist wage slavery of the depraved West of Europe. Poles! my cousins! we are riding our steeds towards a new and golden era!

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

Hear hear shewolf!
One should note that the starter of this thread was convinced by Plastic Pole's answer that yes it is indeed possible to be Polish without speaking Polish:


But then a mere 8 minutes later a British expatriate, who isn't Polish, posted claiming that this answer isn't satisfactory. Why do these British people care so much about who is, or isn't, Polish? They should mind their own business.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


Hahahahaha "Exactly"!? How? The fact that the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was ethnically diverse does nothing to change the fact that Poland had already been a political entity for centuries before the PLC formed and that Poland was founded by the indigenous Slavs of the land. Poles in Poland are indeed another indigenous people and the claim that saying so is laughable because of a multiethinic political union that formed centuries after the original kingdom of Poland formed is really what is laughable.


It is not a problem for anyone not being ridiculous. Otherwise no homo-sapiens outside of Africa can claim to be indigenous to the lands their ancestors have inhabited for centuries. The Indo-European Slavs that migrated into Poland did so in the First Millenium, at the latest, and it was they who formed the original Polish state. Poles are an indigenous population.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


No I don't. read my post again and maybe you will understand it was about an exhibition of movie posters from Poland, not from America, and it showed the identification.


You are wrong. Poles are indigenous to Poland, or if one believes the theory of Slavic migrations they arrived in Poland well over one-thousand years ago which makes them pretty much indigenous as well.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


There was an exhibition of movie posters made in Poland to advertise American Westerns at the Gene Autry museum a few years back and it was obvious that Poles are fascinated by Native Americans. Most of the American posters would have the cowboy stars on them while the Poles almost always put the Indians on the posters. The museum explained this by claiming that Poles, as another indigenous people that battled foreign invaders, identify with Native Americans. The Plains Indians with their equestrian tradition and their cockiness are particularly akin to Poles.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


"they'd have know" really? You can't even type in proper English but you feel you are smart enough to deny people's ethnic heritage! The various Polish words for grandmother do include "busia" as has been shown on this forum numerous times but you are too idiotic to acknowledge this fact.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


Because they told their progeny that they did and they had no reason to lie.


Because they came from areas that were once part of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth.


Don't patronize me regarding my comprehension because I am American you ill-mannered person. Alot of Polish-Americans' ancestors came from areas that weren't always Polish ruled but they were still Polish because of their culture. If they were Ruthenian, or some other ethnicity, then they wouldn't have told their families that they were Polish.

Life / Anyone know of an English-language translation of "Kapuściński Non-Fiction", yet? [18]

It will probably be translated into English soon. Kapuśćiński is revered in the English speaking world.

Life / Anyone know of an English-language translation of "Kapuściński Non-Fiction", yet? [18]

I think all of Kapucściński's books have been translated into English. Is this book by him or about him?

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


Wow, what a stupid hyperbolic analogy! You have really made yourself look like an idiot here, Harry, Polish-Americans have Polish ancestors that lived in Poland for centuries, they didn't merely visit Warsaw once.


Good for you! You've managed to mention the two words that you are freakishly fixated upon. That is good for your mania and also good for everyone else on this forum that finds your bigoted anti-Polish-American mania funny. Hahahahaha what a head case!

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


It is possible but highly unlikely that many Polish-Americans are really of German-Russian-Jewish and Lemko or Czech ancestry whose ancestors decided to adopt Polish surnames and convert to Roman Catholicism upon their arrival in America and tell their progeny that they were Polish while keeping the secret of their completely non-Polish ancestry from them.


I think you fail to realize that Poland has minorites that are also part of the larger group and they can be identified as both. I have Gorale ancestry and the Gorale are a minority in Poland but they are Polish as well. You even provided an example yourself:


Because Scots are British. Scotland is a part of Great Britain.


Lemkos that came to America told their sions that they were Lemkos. The Pop artist Andy Warhol was one and he attended a Uniate Church with his fellow Lemko-Americans all his life.

In order to prove that Polish-Americans can't call themselves Polish you have provide a plausible reason for a widespread bizarre ancestral masquerade of origin and you are not doing it delphiandomine. Polish-Americans think they are Polish because they are descended from some sort of ethnic Poles perhaps even Kashubians or Gorale but Poles nonetheless.

As for you other claim:


It seems you want to deny the viability of national ethnicity all together and so no one is Scottish or Polish and thus it doesn't matter if one is fluent in Polish because no one can ever be Polish, but I suspect you don't really mean this. You really just want to deny Polish-Americans their Polishness and in you irrational fervor you've overstepped yourself. If we take your argument seriously we may say that this belief that national ethnicities must be ethnically "pure", and not an amalgam of Picts, Celts and Norse, nor a melange of Polanie, Masurian, Gorale, etc. for their claims that they constitute an ethnicy to be valid is, at best, akin to that of a loopy physicist who would argue that molecules do not exist because they are constituted of disparate atoms, and at worst it smacks of a sort of racism that posits "mongrelhood" because it believes that "purebred" ethnicities do exist.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


You think you "know" this but you are wrong. I have studied Polish history and I come on to this site to learn more of it. You are being rude and presumptuous.


Wow what an illogical claim! You acknowledge the fact that it was Poles who were mixing with these other ethnicities and so even if many Polish-Americans also have some other ancestry as well then they are still also "definitively" Polish.


No, you need to realize that Polish-Americans were not told by their immigrant ancestors that they were merely "from Poland" but rather that they were Polish. If they came from a non-Polish ethnicity then they would tell their families that they were of that specific non-Polish ethnicity. Believing that immigrants would lie to their own families about their origins is crazy.


Why are you crying for the mods? If you don't like your inane racist assumptions about Polish-Americans critiqued then don't post here. If you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


Knowing that one's ancestors are Polish and thus referring oneself as a Polish-American is not nonsense.


What a stupid bigoted generalization about Polish-Americans' knowledge of European history.


Anyone who puts forth such a stupid staw-man fallacy regarding Polish-Americans deserves to be ridiculed. The vast majority of Polish-Americans know that they have Polish roots because their ancestors were immigrant Poles that told them so, and not because they found out their ancestors' birthplaces and then inferred it. Delphiandomine you are being ridiculous.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

Wow if you think the term African-American is somehow usable as a "weapon" then you really do need the psychological care that Fuzzywickets suggests.


Yes they are.

Why do you believe that acknowledging the truth about having Scottish ancestry is "utter nonsense"? It is you who aren't making any sense.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


No, it is not like saying that. Most African Americans are descended from Africans take in bondage from a few places on the West coast of Africa. It was sad that most of them could not be certain from what part of that coast their ancestors came, but now with DNA testing that too is changing. Do you really believe that African-Americans are just "bullshitting" when they claim that their ancestors came from Africa? If so you should read some history and realize that they are telling the truth.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


Wow what an idiotic question! Americans with African ancestry may be referred to as African Americans and there is no "bullshit" about it. Your choice of words here is very coarse delphiandomine. I reccomend you attend a university and improve your vocabulary.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


So mutes and newborns born in Poland to Polish parents can never be Polish by your stupid binary reasoning. You should realize that in this world there are shades of grey. Polish-Americans that do not speak Polish are still Polish in the sense of having Polish ancestry and also probably having living relatives in Poland.


Just because everyone can trace their roots back to Africa doesn't mean that ethnicity is meaningless. The diverse ethnicites that have arisen in the last 100,000 years are very real.