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2 Mar 2010
Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]

it's groups of people trying to differentiate themselves. Making jokes about each other is better than cussing each other out.
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2 Mar 2010
Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]

Well, Its the only group without special legal rights and representation.

Damn right. When I'm visiting, I'll keep a journal. There's got to be a law suit there somewhere.
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2 Mar 2010
Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]

not necessarily.. A lot of jokes about stupidity lately have changed to be redneck jokes!
Interestingly, when I tell people here that in Poland, the jokes about stupidity are more often than not about Americans, they do not believe me!
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2 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

Sure they can claim to be whomever but is beyond me how they dare to claim land as well.

I just spoke to my mother (she thinks I should step away from the computer), and she believes that PiƂsudski had a lot to do with all these Poles getting massacred in Ukraine because he gave his troops that land to settle in.
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2 Mar 2010
Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]

Why even try to play one ethnic group against another?

I just do that as proof that these jokes have nothing to do with ethnicity, since they can so easily be transferred from one to another. Most important is a good punch line.
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2 Mar 2010
Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]

I tell people that all the Polish jokes they hear are actually about Italians. I don't think anyone I ever told that to tried to disprove that point.
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2 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

I knew that Russians killed a bunch of Poles during and after the WWII, but now I wish I didn't read all that stuff. Villagers pitch-forking each other like medieval barbarians.. Ain't history great.

The area I thought I wanted to visit is Kowel.
My father gazes longingly at his paintings of idillic Ukrainian countryside but hates Jews, my mother judges people by their Ukrainian features.. what a messed up nation we are.
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2 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

I'm sorry, somebody asked for a positive spin, but I'm in shock! According to what I read, it could not have happend without the support of Ukrainian villagers (although some helped polish people and paid with their lives for it).

So, Polish people visiting Ukraine are well received now?
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2 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

and just 13 years later, right in that area, Polish and Ukrainian villagers started murdering each other. I wonder how much of that hatred is still alive there. My mother, to this day, might explain that she does not like somebody because they look to her like a blood-thirsty Ukrainian. And her family is not even from eastern Poland!
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1 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

Good Lord, I just read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Poles_in_Volhynia

Now I know why my mother has such an aversion to Ukrainians.
"The atrocities were perpetrated with utmost cruelty. The victims, regardless of their age or gender, were routinely tortured to death. Norman Davies in No Simple Victory gives a short, but shocking description of the massacres. He writes: "Villages were torched. Roman Catholic priests were axed or crucified. Churches were burned with all their parishioners. Isolated farms were attacked by gangs carrying pitchforks and kitchen knives. Throats were cut. Pregnant women were bayoneted. Children were cut in two. Men were ambushed in the field and led away. The perpetrators could not determine the province's future. But at least they could determine that it would be a future without Poles."[56] Timothy Snyder describes the murders in the following way: "Ukrainian partisans burned homes, shot or forced back inside those who tried to flee, and used sickles and pitchforks to kill those they captured outside. In some cases, beheaded, crucified, dismembered, or disembowelled bodies were displayed, in order to encourage remaining Poles to flee".[57] Similar account has been presented by Niall Ferguson, who wrote: Whole villages were wiped out, men beaten to death, women raped and mutilated, babies bayoneted.[58] Ukrainian historian Yuryi Kirichuk from Lviv described the conflict as similar to the medieval rebellions.[59]"

That is around Kovel, 13 years after my father's family left. Smart people!
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1 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

It's amazing how being on this website forces me to revisit histoy!
I have always been told that in beginning of the year 1930, my father's family left Kowel and lost their extensive land holdings due to my great-grandfather's gambling problem. So now I check out the Ukraine's time table, and in 1929, the collectivisation of farmland has started! Is it possible that the 'blue bloods' preferred it to be known that they lost their land to horse racing rather than to communists?

or, I might have been wrong. Kovel (Kowel) might have been Polish till 1939.
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28 Feb 2010
News / Should 16-year-olds in Poland vote? [58]

Hell, I don't know - when they get a job and start paying taxes? But don't ask me, I think we should be able to abort them up to the age of 18!
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28 Feb 2010
Genealogy / If your ancestors were in the "Wehrmacht"... [217]

This might be a little off topic, but I see some possible parallels, so humor me here.
I see boys is US join the armed forces for any variety of reasons, most prevalent are: don't want to live with parents, can't affort a place of their own, can't find a job, can't affort college tuition, parents kicking them out, girfriend broke up with them, like guns, buddies think that they have no b0lls... they believe that they will be stationed in Hawaii.. nice cash bonus to join..

Is it possible that by some freak of nature they might end up a part of something that in the future will be judged in completely different light? How much of a choice do they actually have, once in the uniform and sworn to obey orders?
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28 Feb 2010
News / Should 16-year-olds in Poland vote? [58]

Poland, I don't know about. I watched the growing influence of church in Poland with great trepidation. I think the separation of religion and politics in US, stated in the constitution, is one of the greatest pillars of this country.
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28 Feb 2010
News / Should 16-year-olds in Poland vote? [58]

So what do you say to those who voted George Bush

That, IMHO, is the result of religious influences.
My statistical pool might have been small, but I know of 3 guys that changed their vote back then because they thought that if they don't vote for Bush, the gays will take over the world (there was some gay issue advertised right before the election).

That, really, is a cry for some kind of intelligence test for the voters. JK.
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28 Feb 2010
News / Should 16-year-olds in Poland vote? [58]

I look at 15 year olds around me, and they judge people on their looks, first and foremost, and then on how much money they flash. I know, this might not say much about the cultural black hole I live in, but that's what it is.
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27 Feb 2010
Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]

I've heard many of them, but for some reason it's the worst one that I remember: this one is from the communist times of shortages.

How can you tell when a Polish woman has her period? She'll only have on sock on.
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27 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Marrying Polish Woman in UK/London [100]

My Lord, you guys are a bunch of total d!cks! Don't you realize that by a grace of God, you might have been born in... Afghanistan? Do you really think that the place we are born in should entitle us to all these special privileges? What about being judged by the way we live our lives?