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Ironside   
27 Apr 2016
Life / Number of church attendees in Poland [54]

Why? Poland is not Israel. Being a protestant is not being hold against you, not as in some 'protestant 'countries where being a Catholics still seem to be hold against you, at least by some.
Ironside   
26 Apr 2016
Life / Number of church attendees in Poland [54]

Back to Poland, I can't imagine the Lutheran minority having a great deal of say

There was a prime minister in Poland of that or other denomination a few years ago.

And yeah, my bad

Fair enough. At least you have balls to walk the walk, resect.

oh, Catholic love for the brethren I see?

See, some do lovin' others need to keep heathen in check.
Ironside   
25 Apr 2016
News / Poland directly threatened by ISIS. Do Islamists planning terrorist attacks in Poland? [390]

ISIS's threats aren't serious unless they make a video about it, and a random e-mail doesn't prove that it's related to ISIS, the arabic part that was shown in the e-mail had grammar mistakes which makes it less credible.

Could be someone who wants to do it in a guise of ISIS but in fact has nothing to do with them.
Ironside   
25 Apr 2016
Life / Number of church attendees in Poland [54]

afaik ca. 15% of population

Did you pull that number out your ass? Nah, don't answer it stinks.

I find that people only turn to their religion when

You are very observant are you not? Do you think tat form your point of view Sun revolves around Earth or it is the other way around?

It's actually a neurological thing. This has been proven by experiments.

Yep, dumbasses are those most prone to be influenced by others. The point is nowadays they are mostly influenced by atheists and other "intellectual" gurus.

To sum it up most of the rank and file atheists ( or people who have no place for religion) nowadays are just followers, dumb like a carrot. The same people that were called a fanatical mob are still the same fanatical mob but on the side of the atheism. We can observe their antics on this forum.

I find it fascinating that humans will go to a temple and worship a higher being they made up. It's kind of cool.

You haven't hit 30 as yet have you now Supial? Do you think that such a dumb remarket make you look cool and clever? Wrong. Make you like a look junior high geek.

But I'm surprised that only half of all Poles go to church every Christmas.

Hmm ....are you bending backwards now just for an opportunity to lie about something that you have nothing to back it up with?
Ironside   
25 Apr 2016
News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

A myth

In every myth there is a kernel of truth. The dawn of humanity doubtlessly seen many comminutes and societies that introduced varies rules and norms and amongst them surly were those that opted for everything goes for one reason or anther. In the curse of a natural selection those 'everything goes' communities lost the race as many others less cohesive communities, doubtlessly amongst those losers were also some societies that were too strict.

Not one society has ever 'didn't survived and collapsed' to to upholding human rights.

Well, they didn't survive and collapse due to inherited flaws that lowered or nullified their competitive abilities.
A human rights concept without Christian religion to back it up are simply a laughable concept that nobody would take seriously.
In the same way as people of your political persuasion that use that venerable human right concept to gain a political goal in fight for privileges to people just because their sexual practices differ from those of the majority.

Its down right strict me as ridiculous form the logical point of view and what more that has nothing to do with human rights. It simply speaking unfair.
Ironside   
25 Apr 2016
News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

Do tell...

Ever heard about Sodom and Gomorrah? All things were there a norm - or to put it better there were lack of norm - everything goes. Everything you wish for was there aplenty and those who were talking about some limited morality and need to introduce boundaries (like forbidding incest ) were a laughing stock.

Seem that there were in the past societies who didn't survived and collapsed onto themselves due the their nature. Yet, you supporting those who want to reintroduce fallen ideas - how would you call it if not turning back the clock?
Ironside   
24 Apr 2016
News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

We are talking about two different things here. You are talking about such an interpretation of the law that encourages certain parades to take place and I do not deny that they have the right to interested the existing laws in this way.

I'm on the other hand talking about skeletons in their closet as in criminal deeds that should be investigated properly by unbiased investigators. In my opinion such a proper investigation would end their 'careers' and put them behind the bars.
Ironside   
24 Apr 2016
News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

The police and prosecutors?

I have in mind certain politicians in Warsaw that are particularly protective of all that parades, rainbow related nonsense but some of those after mentioned too - without doubt,

In Poland human rights are still respected

Criminals belong in prison. Their position shouldn't shield them from responsibility for breaking the law.

despite the PiS regime's lack of respect

That is a very easy to say but very difficult to prove.
Ironside   
24 Apr 2016
News / Poland directly threatened by ISIS. Do Islamists planning terrorist attacks in Poland? [390]

There's plenty of evidence that shows Srebenica happened

Happened but what had happened exactly? Putting aside propaganda.
Was those ONZ or NATO havens for noncombatants used by Muslims as a place they would recuperate, resupply or hide in a case of a military drawback. Just to launch a surprise attack against a local Serbian population.

Wasn't that the truth that military and political brass in charge of those so called "refugees protected areas" refused to cooperate with the Serbian military and political brass to prevent Muslim fighters from using them to their advantage?

Isn't that a fact that while Srebrenica takeover most men present there were purposefully set into panic by the Mujahidin who wanted to use their flight as a cover for their escape?

That some Muslim men who weren't fighters were killed in the ensuing chaos is a fact but it was nothing like a certain propaganda would us have it.

That's like saying Northern Ireland was the cradle of Catholic terrorism

That would be a nonsense as there are not and never was as you put it 'Catholic terrorism'. Those organizations that used terror as their chosen tool in that part of the world. Have done so basing their ways and philosophy on the Maoist ideology and were ideologically akin to those terrorists movements in the South America.
Ironside   
24 Apr 2016
Life / Number of church attendees in Poland [54]

in larger cities fewer people practise religion regularly.

That claim is completely unsubstantiated.

use migrants as material to burnish your latter-day Marxist credentials

Without a doubt their credential should grand them a one way ticket into a loony house for fanatically bigoted slobs with a great sahib complex. Perhaps a cure will be invented one day.
Ironside   
24 Apr 2016
Life / Number of church attendees in Poland [54]

And the data itself is most certainly supported: it comes direct from the Catholic Church

But you yourself stated that the CC data give us a drop in Sunday attendance from 57% to 40% which is a simple equation that gives us 17% not 32%.

Your 32% has nothing to do with the CC data but with your calculations which are only your assessment and as such cannot be trusted.
Ironside   
24 Apr 2016
Life / Number of church attendees in Poland [54]

is a fall of some 32%,

That is unsupported claim. You keep believing in what you want. Just stop misleading people.

Those are interested in a true state of the affairs in Poland should be advised that there are three groups of people in Poland:
a. those who are even more into church.
b. those that are loosely attached to church
c. those who detach themselves from the church.
B - the most numerous group.
A- growing
C- growing
In which way pendulum will turn it is impossible to say at the moment.
However quality is better than quantity.
Ironside   
24 Apr 2016
Life / Number of church attendees in Poland [54]

Except those of us living in Poland know that CBOS tends to get polls wrong due to the polling methods used.

Well, if that so that renders your 'friend's' Harry line of argument null and void.

The number of people who actually do go to church is very different, becausewhat people say and what people do all often rather different.

If you say so. It could be read both ways not only the way you take it, i.e. more people actually go to church than CBOS states.

Of course, not everybody who is in church on a particular Sunday goes to church every single Sunday.

Again, that line of argument can be used to debunk your claim. Not everybody who isn't in church on that particular Sunday doesn't attend Church services in some or most of Sundays in a year.

If we assume

You can assume whatever fits your fancy it doesn't mean that your assumption is correct and reflect reality.

from 57% in 1982 to under 40% last year

So from 1982 to 2015 attendance fell from 57% to 40%. If we take into account that some of those people attending church in 1982 died, if we adjust for the decline of population due to emigration, for a greater number of people working Sundays (only few worked Sundays in 1982), then we can assume that 17% of difference is not that great. Yes, some of those people don't go to church due to fashion, laziness, 'liberal' lefties ideas but only some and the latter is not a number that can be determined.

What we know is 40% is a number that shows up in some or other of the USA research of the subject and that number is lowered by one or other argument to about 20% of those who actually go to Church as opposite to those that say they go. Goes as it may we know where Harry got his 20% number from.

However here we have a number of those who actually show up. So you failed again as usual.

to under 40% last year. one should note that the figure of 39%

Nah, 40% is in fact 39% and 39% is not real that but only 30% as the great Harry Houdini says. Why would we take his word for it? No reason at all.

they exclude from that number

whomever they exclude from that number they have been excluding them for years so if your argument had any consistency you would have to lower that number for 1982 by the same factor - instead of 57% should be 47%.

Instead of exploring murky ways of 'arry and his wishful thinking and questionable integrity let talk about something else. For example about that weird thread's topic and his even weirder OP. Like WTF?
Ironside   
23 Apr 2016
News / The only three normal cities with any respect for humanity in Poland [99]

This whole mindset of "muslim refugees means more terrorism" is erroneous.

Well, possibly you are right but that is not academia where you debate all pro and contra. That is politicks, social issues and self-proclaimed tribunes plus few nutter and whatnot in action.

Generally it is a poplar backlash against European governments that with the one hand meddle in the middle east affairs and with the other take in all those people with a completely different culture, background, religion and mentality regardless of the consequences.

My personal stance on all that is simple - terrorist is just a product of a pressure by the western progressives (Godless) who are mostly in charge in those countries on a tribal Muslim culture.

I personally don't care about that Muslim equals terrorists slogan but I think that is a good slogan to use in order to stop influx of Muslim people into Europe and specifically into Poland. Poland is a Christian country and should remain so.