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InWroclaw   
20 Jul 2012
Law / Rights of a consumer when dealing with faulty goods in Poland? [65]

They said "we just sell them" and acted like they had no responsibility at all as a retailer. It's criminal.

Yes, the electrical chain manager said something pretty much like that. They used to say that in the UK, too, but these days people know their rights there.

rooted in the cultural behavior of not taking responsibility or admitting fault.

Oh boy have I noticed that since I've been here, it really does seem to be far more common than in the UK.
InWroclaw   
20 Jul 2012
Law / Rights of a consumer when dealing with faulty goods in Poland? [65]

Good idea, I'll try to find the link and print it off. Although it was probably just his limited English rather than willful rudeness (and of course I know I should speak Polish if I am here in Poland) the manager of the electrical chain said to me "No, I am not going to help you more with this, you must wait for service" when I asked him to please call the manufacturer for confirmation that the item was missing in transit. Thankfully, the manufacturer's agent in Warsaw then found the item after email ping-pong with me. However - in England the unit would have been swapped over if returned so quickly, almost certainly. Instead I have the inconvenience of not having what I paid for, for an extended period now. And. to make matters worse, a superior model is now available at a different retailer for 10% less.
InWroclaw   
18 Jul 2012
UK, Ireland / Polish woman living in England is moving back to Poland. How much money do I need? [87]

If you are on your own, you even can't rent a flat.

Just to let you know, in most of the UK tenants renting flats complain the rent is costing most of their salary, That is why a lot of people in the UK under 30 live with their parents now! They never did before, it was embarrassing if you were still at home after 20. Now, it's the norm there.

I hope things improve for you in Poland, but also please remember many Poles in the UK are in shared accommodation and struggling there too. (Although some do tell me they love the UK and won't return.)
InWroclaw   
18 Jul 2012
UK, Ireland / Polish woman living in England is moving back to Poland. How much money do I need? [87]

It will depend how you all live. You can start checking food prices by going to Tesco's new online groceries site ezakupy.tesco.pl and calculate a typical month and add 5% as an inflation contingency for 2012.

You can keep your energy bills down by using low energy bulbs, keep an eye on water usage, that sort of thing.

Clothes are cheaper in the UK, but here in Poland I do sometimes go to the secondhand shops for clothing - it's my dirty secret.

I use public transport - not easy as I am used to a car door to door in the UK. But I notice petrol is up in price here.

One of your biggest outlays in your whole life is where you food shop - so over a year it makes a huge difference to your pocket if you shop around, as long as that shopping around does not cost petrol. Each of the major supermarkets has good, cheap things but not one of them has good and cheap everything. I find my vegetarian products are cheapest at Auchan and a local small chain, cooked chicken is cheapest at Carrefour's deli, potatoes are cheapest (usually) at the market or Biedronka (as is cottage cheese) - you get the idea. A lot of the time I just go to a local Spolem or whatever it's called - not that much more expensive on some items and I save time. If I was working in Poland, I would not shop around as much as I do because it would interfere with my leisure time and working life.
InWroclaw   
18 Jul 2012
Law / Rights of a consumer when dealing with faulty goods in Poland? [65]

Thank you, much appreciated.

I have just been on the blower to a nice chap at the shop's HQ and he said, and you'll love this: "The 14 days only counts from when the manufacturer receives the item for service, not when we traffic [their word] the item to them. The warranty card will say how many days from when the courier collects the item is the limit before the 14 days starts."

The manufacturer has just again emailed me to say they haven't got the item from the shop, and what's the "waybill" number of the parcel with my item. The shop say the manufacturer's courier took ithe item from their warehouse yesterday.

So - forget all about the 14 days in any meaningful sense - their apparent get out of jail card for the retailer is that the 14 days only starts from when the manufacturer/repairer receives the item and acknowledges same. In other words, the manufacturer and/or a shop can together (razem!) be economical with the truth regarding any dates given in order that they keep within the rules.

Apparently it's all in the small print that it's not the date you hand the item back to the shop for repair, but the date Mr Repairman lays hands on your item, that begins the 14 days. It also sounds like the 14 days does not include transit time in returning the item to you.

Of course, because I don't speak more than the odd disjointed word of Polish and the retailer hotline chap spoke good but not perfect English, I could have got this all wrong. But I did summarise it and repeat it back to him, and didn't sound like I've misunderstood their position. Whether that position is strictly to the letter of the directive I am not qualified to know or say, but I can say "14 days"?? LMAO.

I am going to recommend Auchan again or Simply, their local supermarkets chain.

Bought a kettle - sealed in a box with factory cellophane. As I opened the box, the kettle lid popped up and would not close again. The lugs were not working.

Took it back to Simply a couple of hours after purchase, and found a staff member on the shop floor - a smiley-type, courteous person who didn't speak any English but saw the problem and exchanged the kettle for me in seconds. She then opened the replacement box to make sure the replacement one was OK. I speak barely a word of Polish and the lady in Simply spoke no English and yet it was all sorted inside of about 3 minutes.

Contrast that to a certain other supermarket chain where you queue for ages and customer service are then quite awkward, even rude or sarcastic sometimes.

Contrast that to the electrical chain in the above OP, where it was only the manufacturer of the item i bought that showed any courtesy, emailing me to say they have now found the item but unfortunately no word on when it will be repaired or replaced,

If I buy anything else and certainly any big ticket item, I will know where to buy it from and where to avoid, based on my own experiences here.
InWroclaw   
18 Jul 2012
Law / Rights of a consumer when dealing with faulty goods in Poland? [65]

Is the item battery powered or plug in?

Battery and/or mains recharge.

Pratice patients i should think.

Looks that way so far.

i would simply call them or visit them regularly until they figure out that you are serious. in our situation my husband gave them a blast- it didn't do anything.

I visited them - they have told me the item is not lost, it was just delayed in getting to the service people for reasons unknown. However, the service people say they haven't got it and never received it. The shop says the computer states they do have it. But that's unlikely, because the manufacturer and service department are two separate organisations. At best, it looks like the service department for the shop have it and are yet to send it to the manufacturer's service department. At worst , it looks like two weeks down the drain waiting and the item is simply lost somewhere but the shop are saying otherwise while they try to find it. The shop just told me to call their 801 number (not sure if that's free or a special call charge rate) and enquire there as they "cannot help me as they are just the shop". If the item ever turns up repaired, it is there that I have to go to collect it.

The current advice from them is basically "Tough, whoever told you two weeks was lying, and it will be another one or two weeks until it is repaired. It is not lost though, don't worry."

Two shop assistants who speak English told me they think I should have received a new one and not had to wait for this one to be repaired, because it was just a few days old when the faults were discovered. But the manager did not agree and insists I wait for a repair. I would not be surprised that when it comes back in maybe 2 weeks or 2 months it will still have at least one of the three faults and will spend its life going back and forth to the service/repair there.

I now know of at least two national chains where not to shop in Poland for anything electrical.

I do however recommend Auchan, and now wish I had purchased the item there (they were not selling it then, but they are now.)
InWroclaw   
18 Jul 2012
Law / Rights of a consumer when dealing with faulty goods in Poland? [65]

If this has already been covered, the link would be appreciated.

In a nutshell:

Bought an electronic item from well-known chain here in Poland. It went wrong in 5 days. Shop said they would send it for repair, gave me the paperwork, said it would be back in 2 weeks.

Nothing heard from them,

I contacted the manufacturer - they checked and said they have not received the item from the shop.

What course of action should I take? (The shop say they cannot verify anything at the moment and are awaiting a call back from the manufacturer's repair dept.)
InWroclaw   
18 Jul 2012
Life / Free Poland Health Care - Paying minimal to no Zus [105]

But have you tried this or is it just your impressions?

They very simply said the EHIC is for emergencies only and if I haven't paid ZUS I need to pay privately to see a GP etc.I will try to get somewhere with another practitioner as it has been suggested not everyone takes that line with a foreigner!
InWroclaw   
17 Jul 2012
Life / Free Poland Health Care - Paying minimal to no Zus [105]

What, where? Not in the UK it's not...

Correct. If it had been my mum would not have died of lung cancer (she was always a non smoker and not even exposed to passive cigarette smoke).

Regular chest x-rays etc would perhaps have caught it early enough to save her. There would have been a chance RFA (radio frequency ablation) could have halted it for example.
InWroclaw   
17 Jul 2012
Travel / Ryanair travel by air - subtle scams to be wary of [98]

Ryanair will follow - Wizzair and Ryanair actually have quite similar ownership (hence why they don't compete really) - and they will follow WizzAir if it works.

More than likely, unfortunately.
InWroclaw   
17 Jul 2012
Life / Free Poland Health Care - Paying minimal to no Zus [105]

The British embassy says it's complicated - and they're not kidding. ukinpoland.fco.gov.uk/en/help-for-british-nationals/whenthingsgowrong/ifyouneeddoctor

It looks like EHIC is perfectly valid to get any medical treatment even during a temporary stay and it's not only about emergencies.

The UK EHIC says the same for Poland nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcareabroad/countryguide/Pages/healthcareinPoland.aspx

But it's a different story in reality here. You can get "If a temporary stay and it's not urgent, speak to your doctor back in the UK when you return as EHIC is for emergencies only. If you are living in Poland, Mr Englishman, NFZ is only available with proof of ZUS." That is completely different to what Poles get in the UK - they just get a GP and treatment if necessary with no nonsense, or at least they did last time I was there.

Here, if it is merely a matter of choosing a different NFZ practitioner with a better understanding or better attitude to EHIC, then I will persevere but it will mean more hassle and unnecessary inconvenience as the surgeries near me would have been better. I have a nasty feeling, however, that I will be told one thing on the phone and then when I turn up they will suddenly say at Reception "If you live here where is your ZUS? The EHIC is insufficient and only for urgent illness or emergencies". "Oh you are here just temporarily? Then see your doctor in the UK, EHIC is for emergencies only here. That ailment is not an emergency or very unlikely to be! Następny!"

This contradictory situation doesn't surprise me - just to give a more trivial example: I was using a local train the other day and the ticket office told me my Urbancard does not get me a discount and charged me full fare, yet the conductor on the train then told me my Urbancard would have reduced my fare considerably, and another conductor later the same day contradicted that and told me it was full fare or off the train. Few people seem to sing from the same hymn sheet here.

What I'd do is get someone to call some doctors/dentists/etc and ask them explicitly if they'll accept the EHIC. The Polish name is "EKUZ". You'll no doubt find some that will accept it :(

Thanks for the information, I will see if I get anywhere with them.
InWroclaw   
17 Jul 2012
Life / Free Poland Health Care - Paying minimal to no Zus [105]

Honestly, you could just try around. It can't be just luck - I visited two different doctors and a dentist, and they were all happy to take it for routine stuff.

I will - thank you for the tip.

If it's any consolation to you, it's "no ZUS, no joy" for Poles too.

And Poles in Poland have my sympathy on that too, no wonder Poles on the plane and in the UK tell me "I'm never going back to [live in] Poland."
InWroclaw   
17 Jul 2012
Life / Free Poland Health Care - Paying minimal to no Zus [105]

Actually - in theory, it is equal. You cannot get health care in either country without contributing to the pot legally

The discussion is what's provided in Britain for Poles and in Poland for Britons. It's what is happening that's important, not why,

Are Poles getting this free treatment in much of the UK? Yes. Are Britons getting this free treatment in Poland? No. End of story.

No point quoting to me some laws or rules that don't alter one jot this grotesque inequality.

Actually - not quite. Before I bothered to pay ZUS (and got married) - I was using the EHIC card. Never, ever had an issue getting non-emergency treatment -

Lucky you then! We're not all that lucky here.
InWroclaw   
17 Jul 2012
Life / Free Poland Health Care - Paying minimal to no Zus [105]

dtaylor5632, InWroclaw read my above post. Why dont you check at EU websites and download the document:

I don't know which "above" post you are referring to.

The guide you have provided appears to be mainly aimed at Poles. The brief sections addressed to aliens use the word "eligible" in an ambiguous manner.

The bottom line, as I understand it from medical people here is "No ZUS booklet means no NFZ for you unless it is an emergency and you have a valid EHIC to show us."

That is not the situation in the UK for Poles - or wasn't last time I enquired, Poles have shown some proof of residency and got free routine healthcare, Some will also tell you they didn't even show that at the walk-in centres, mentioned by Pam,

Where can I as a Briton get such free routine treatment in Poland just by showing my electric bill or tenancy agreement? Nowhere that I know of. Here in Polska it's pay up or shove off, Mr Englishman. In the UK, we opened our registration books for thousands of Poles to have routine care at our already very stretched National Health Service clinics and surgeries, all foc. But no such reciprocal courtesy extended to Britons in RP to the best of my knowledge. "No ZUS, no joy." That's just not cricket is it.
InWroclaw   
17 Jul 2012
Life / Free Poland Health Care - Paying minimal to no Zus [105]

Any Briton reading this thread in the UK can just ask any Polish person in a major town how they registered and got free treatment at a UK GP surgery. Don't take my word for it - ask real Polish people there.

Then ask yourself why Britons here are not given the same free healthcare despite the fact there is a fraction of us in Poland compared to how many Poles are in the UK. It is very inequal.
InWroclaw   
16 Jul 2012
Life / Free Poland Health Care - Paying minimal to no Zus [105]

Poles LIVING in the UK.... I.E permanently residing. Read what you have just quoted from pam first...."

Quite apart from the fact that Poles who are not living in the UK do indeed get foc routine treatments (in the UK) or certainly did in the recent past, I was in any case talking about Britons LIVING in Poland.

I assume from your ready approach to head banging that you're in the UK where you'll get X-rayed at no charge to yourself, unlike a Briton who bangs their head and then develops headaches some days afterwards and has to pay the Polish health service for what a Pole will get free in Britain straight off the plane. Similarly, if your vodka drinking leads to a liver problem, you can relax in the UK if you're a Pole. Not so as a Briton in Poland where you need to have ZUSsed yourself and know the rules inside out.
InWroclaw   
16 Jul 2012
Life / Free Poland Health Care - Paying minimal to no Zus [105]

They are also eligible for straight of the plane

I know,

It's a very inequal system - there' 1 of us here for every however many hundred Poles there are in the UK and we are not afforded the same health privileges.

I am not suggesting Poles should have their health privileges curtailed in the UK, but I am suggesting Brits should get the same rights in Poland, ie free NFZ treatment and check ups just as Poles get in the UK. "NI number"? LOL!
InWroclaw   
16 Jul 2012
Life / Free Poland Health Care - Paying minimal to no Zus [105]

If they are living in the UK and contribute to NI then yes. If they are visiting the UK on holiday and don't pay NI then they are entitled to emergency treatment only.

I very much doubt anyone is expected to pay NI there - certainly doesn't correspond to what I hear from Poles in the UK.

They merely have to prove they are ordinarily resident, and in practice, it was a free for all and may still be...
dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2151048/Hospital-clamps-health-tourism-demanding-patients-prove-living-lawfully-Britain-handing-free-NHS-treatment.html

In fact, someone has even thoughtfully produced a video informing Polish people in the UK how to use the NHS



The NHS has had to find more money to pay for Polish children born in the UK
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7215624.stm
(in Poland, maternity care is not always free to Brits with Polish spouses)

In fact, Poles have even been encourtaged to come over to the UK just for free abortions on the NHS
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/7441990/Polish-women-encouraged-to-come-to-UK-for-free-abortions-on-NHS.html

So don't give me that "only if they pay UK NI" nonsense, even if you yourself believe it.
InWroclaw   
16 Jul 2012
Food / Where to buy British mature Cheddar Cheese and salted butter in Poland? [289]

No mature C/City at Tesco Magnolia Park, but there were a few packs in the Wroclaw Bielany branch cheese deli counter area the other day.

Also, Tesco are now doing online ordering with office or home delivery the next day. We've had this service in the UK for some years now.

tesco.pl/ezakupy

Whether they have the CC cheese there online I don't know, I didn't see it.

They do have Kerrygold listed however.

(E shop may be Wroclaw and Warsaw only at the moment, not sure)
InWroclaw   
16 Jul 2012
Travel / Ryanair travel by air - subtle scams to be wary of [98]

Is it true Wizz are charging for cabin baggage now, if flying from Luton?

Apparently yes, they are trialling it on some routes for some cabin baggage sizes:

moneysavingexpert.com/news/travel/2012/07/budget-airline-wizz-air-to-charge-for-hand-luggage